Is this a face you'd want to see in the women's restroom?

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Would you want this person in the women's restroom or any sort of women's space?
Yes 74%  74%  [ 46 ]
No 26%  26%  [ 16 ]
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11 Dec 2013, 9:09 am

I wouldn't mind, actually I'd think it's cool. I think I'd be able to tell from your face that you're trans, as per your smooth skin due to your hormones.

Maybe you and a friend should go to the bathroom together (that's what most NT women seem to do in public when out with friends). I'm sure if you're accompanied your presence would raise less eyebrows.



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11 Dec 2013, 9:47 am

You don't look any more masculine than me, and I'm not trans. Having said that, I have been mistaken for a man a few times, even when I had long hair!

You have as much right to use a ladies restroom as I do.



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12 Dec 2013, 7:41 am

I probably wouldn't even notice you as people tend to be off my radar, but if I did

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Actually, when meeting this person on the street, I would think of it as a feminine looking man, but when I met the person i a ladies room, I´d simply think of her being a bit masculine looking female, because otherwise I wouldnt expect her/him to be in the female restrooms. ^^


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13 Dec 2013, 1:55 pm

Are you transgender then? If you were dressed/ living as a woman I'd have no problem with it. Took me a moment to figure out why you were asking, you could definitely pass for female.



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18 Dec 2013, 1:12 pm

If I see a person in a woman's bathroom, I assume the person is a woman unless they speak with a very masculine voice or are displaying their anatomy. There are a lot of woman that look like men, and plenty of men that could pass for women.

Having said that, a person that is physically male in a woman's bathroom... I'm not comfortable with that, but if I don't know, I'm better off. However, if I was the only other person in the restroom, I really would not be comfortable. Again, ignorance is bliss.



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22 Dec 2013, 11:19 pm

Thanks, all, for your responses.

After seeing 20% opposed, though I haven't really heard from them, I have concluded that it would probably be best not to go into the women's restroom, at least not until I'm post-op; considering I can't afford SRS and insurance may not cover it, it might be a long time before I can get it. I heard a radical feminist say she would scream if she saw someone she perceived as a man in the women's restroom in order to cause a disturbance which would at least humiliate the perceived man, and might result in the perceived man's arrest, as a means to strike back against trans women using the women's restroom.

For the interests of safety, I will not use the women's restroom.


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22 Dec 2013, 11:25 pm

I think the only time I'd be bothered by a man in a woman's restroom is if he pulled his penis out whilst not in the cubicle. I've been in unisex toilets with men peeing in the cubicle next to me and it didn't bother me.

I would add that it would be important for me not to hear a man cracking one off, but then I realised that I don't like hearing anyone do any sexual activity in public toilets, anyway.

I would still want the cubicles to be nice and private and have working locks. If there were men in the facilities, I'd be even more angry at cubicles with busted locks than I currently am. I wouldn't use a cubicle with a busted lock and close with with my bag like I normally do when I really need to wee.


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23 Dec 2013, 12:07 am

puddingmouse wrote:
I think the only time I'd be bothered by a man in a woman's restroom is if he pulled his penis out whilst not in the cubicle. I've been in unisex toilets with men peeing in the cubicle next to me and it didn't bother me.

I would add that it would be important for me not to hear a man cracking one off, but then I realised that I don't like hearing anyone do any sexual activity in public toilets, anyway.

I would still want the cubicles to be nice and private and have working locks. If there were men in the facilities, I'd be even more angry at cubicles with busted locks than I currently am. I wouldn't use a cubicle with a busted lock and close with with my bag like I normally do when I really need to wee.


What's the point of having a man in the women's restroom anyway, unless the men's restroom is closed?


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23 Dec 2013, 12:18 am

beneficii wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
I think the only time I'd be bothered by a man in a woman's restroom is if he pulled his penis out whilst not in the cubicle. I've been in unisex toilets with men peeing in the cubicle next to me and it didn't bother me.

I would add that it would be important for me not to hear a man cracking one off, but then I realised that I don't like hearing anyone do any sexual activity in public toilets, anyway.

I would still want the cubicles to be nice and private and have working locks. If there were men in the facilities, I'd be even more angry at cubicles with busted locks than I currently am. I wouldn't use a cubicle with a busted lock and close with with my bag like I normally do when I really need to wee.


What's the point of having a man in the women's restroom anyway, unless the men's restroom is closed?


There's no point otherwise, assuming he identifies as a man (I wasn't talking about MtF transpeople.) Well I guess male cleaners might be in there, but that's never bothered me, either.

My point was that if I don't have a problem using the toilets with men around (providing they act like decent human beings,) then I shouldn't have any problem with pre-op MtFs as long as they don't do anything dangerous or disrespectful. But not doing dangerous or disrespectful things in public toilets is a rule I want everyone to follow.


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24 Dec 2013, 4:52 am

I'm confused. :? I thought you was female. The picture is female to me.


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29 Dec 2013, 6:27 pm

I once shaved my head bald.. and the cleaning lady was like "excuse me, this is the woman's" lol I was a woman.. Just felt like shaving my head bald..



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30 Dec 2013, 10:23 am

I don't understand why so many cis woken get freaked out by men and trans women in the bathroom. Grow up, they only want to take a leak, not sexually harass you! Besides, you pass to me.



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30 Dec 2013, 10:54 am

MindBlind wrote:
I don't understand why so many cis woken get freaked out by men and trans women in the bathroom. Grow up, they only want to take a leak, not sexually harass you! Besides, you pass to me.


Some women have traumatic experiences with men. I'm not personally scared of getting sexually harassed in a toilet, but I accept that some women are.


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30 Dec 2013, 12:13 pm

MindBlind wrote:
I don't understand why so many cis woken get freaked out by men and trans women in the bathroom. Grow up, they only want to take a leak, not sexually harass you! Besides, you pass to me.


I would be bothered by an obvious cis gendered man in a women's bathroom. I'd assume that they were in there to peek or worse. I'd just accept it though if they behaved and were just in there actually using the bathroom. They would have to be really obvious because if they were trans or just a masculine looking woman I wouldn't want to embarrass them. Just last week I went to the mall with my mother and she got called sir once and another time a worker seemed confused about her gender.

If there is a trans woman in the bathroom since as far as I'm concerned they are a woman so I would have no problem with that because they are a woman using the women's bathroom.



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30 Dec 2013, 6:44 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
MindBlind wrote:
I don't understand why so many cis woken get freaked out by men and trans women in the bathroom. Grow up, they only want to take a leak, not sexually harass you! Besides, you pass to me.


Some women have traumatic experiences with men. I'm not personally scared of getting sexually harassed in a toilet, but I accept that some women are.


And what about women that have bad sexual experiences with other women? Can they go to the men's toilet instead?

Okay, joking aside, I get that but if, say, the men's toilets are out of use for whatever reason and there isn't a disabled toilet (at my work, the disabled toilets had to replace the gent's when they got bust) then you have to share. Personally, I don't like public toilets. I'm scared I'm going to catch a disease sitting on a toilet seat and, yes, even women miss the bowl when they take a leak. I sometimes see period blood as well, which is nasty, as well as toilets clocked with mountains of poo. Awful places... But when you need to go, you need to go.



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30 Dec 2013, 7:00 pm

MindBlind wrote:

Okay, joking aside, I get that but if, say, the men's toilets are out of use for whatever reason and there isn't a disabled toilet (at my work, the disabled toilets had to replace the gent's when they got bust) then you have to share.


I've never been anywhere that had men and women sharing a multi person restroom, at least not with both men and women using it simultaneously. When I was in the mental hospital they were working on the male bathroom and we had to "share" but there never were boys and girls in there at the same time. In the hospital I went to recently for a test the bathroom I used that they had was a one person unisex handicapped accessible bathroom. They had two of them next to each other. That was nice. Full privacy, room to move around, and good for anyone, even trans people and people with opposite gender children that might need help but be too old to enter the wrong gender bathroom. They had the man, woman, and wheelchair symbol next to each one.