Women liking rich vs not rich

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Hmmm....why men have this impression, it's because there's a massive input of that:

- Because we are raised by our moms and dads on this idea.
- Because it is what society keeps telling us.
- Because we saw it at school.
- Because we see it in media.
- Because we see how many girls react and sigh while seeing the fanciness of royal and celeb weddings. (ie. Prince William and Katy wedding).
- Because we saw many girls call themselves princesses or wanting to be treated as princesses.
- Because we see how many girls sigh upon seeing guys in fancy cars.
- Because we see and hear how many girls want their wedding plans and honey month, and believe me, the standards they put require a good earner man.
- Because we see and hear how many girls very favorably, with envy, of someone's new boyfriend if he's rich or makes a lot ('Oh, he's a senior engineer working in UAE? wow he's surely greasy') or of someone getting married to a rich or high earner husband - in fact, for many this is the first thing they ask about ie. what his status?.
- Because we see and hear what our female friends talk and want from men, and they would spit out everything.
- Because we see and hear women talking about guy's expensive gifts to their girlfriends/wives - and would judge harshly on what they consider cheap, and we see many women love to flash on social media their diamond ring/necklace.
- Because we see it in women magazine columns, we read women encouraging other women for going for rich men.
- Because we see how much books such as The Rules get success among women, and we see romance movies (where the protagonists are almost always very rich) get success among the general populace of women (I don't think think Fifty Shades of Grey would be a popular fantasy if Mr grey wasn't millionaire, as I have read from women talking about this subject).
- Because we see what many girls write on their dating profiles, surprise, we know how to read.
- Because some of them expect the man to pay always, for dates and vacations. Because we are often judged by some of them very negatively when going dutch (real life experience).
- Because many of us got rejected based on that only, for being the less earner.
- Because some of us felt the sudden increase of attention upon promotion.
- Because we got asked how much we make by some girls on first dates (happened to me twice few years ago, and even though they were uni students back then who earned nothing, they wanted more).
-Because we see examples of women not wanting and not respecting their men anymore just quickly after their men losing their jobs, divorce often occur quickly after.


Because....it's what we see in life, we live on the same planet, we live among the women, we have ears and eyes and not entirely isolated from the world.

Hmmm.

@The_Face_of_Boo

Ok then using the same reasoning, my general impression of men should be that:

They are rapists.
They are violent.
They like war.
They enjoy fighting.
They enjoy sports, cars, and casual sex.
They think women are inferior.
They wish women would "know their place."
They think women over 30 are only good for cooking and cleaning for them.
They like to control women.
They are more interested in a woman's appearance than anything else.
They will cheat on their wives/gfs if another hotter/younger woman comes along.
They kill things for fun.
They like to belch and fart as much as possible.
They are dirty.
They are messy.

Oh, and I forgot:

They will abandon the women they get pregnant.
They will abandon their children to be raised by their mothers.

^ The difference is that I have used 'many girls' and 'some' and emphasized on that , while you are saying 'they'.

So you are the one who's generalizing.

You stated that that is why men have that impression. I stated that then based on my experiences, those things should be my impression of men. Those are things that I've been shown by personal experience, the media, stories of other people, comments by men online, comments by men in real life.

So I guess it must be ok for me to think that those things are true.

Yes it is justified for you to think like that.

We're even.

But I am replying to the OP's thread in particular.

The point is that people ought to just grow the f up already and not believe every stereotype that they come across.

People in general are bad. So there are going to be an awful lot of people to be avoided. Men who want a nice woman ought to look for them instead of turning them off with nasty attitudes.

Just like women shouldn't go for bad boys then complain about it when they behave in that manner.

And if a person is rejected by everyone, there's probably a reason for it, and that reason is not that the problem lies with everyone else.

I mean, I could just go around complaining that it's everyone else's fault that I have no friends, and that people should just accept that I have insomnia and miss work, and I should just be handed everything because I deserve it.

I am not complaining, I am just replying to Allie's main post.

No, I'm complaining because this whole nonsense that was started is pissing me off.

Sorry.

While hardly conclusive evidence, taking a peek at Harlequin Romance titles (a genre writteny by, catering to and almost exclusively consumed by women) would suggest that the fantasy/trend/desire isn't an uncommon one.


"Becoming The Tycoon's Bride: Chosen as The Sheikh's Wife"

"The Tycoon Who Healed Her Heart"

"Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire?"

"Miss Prim And The Billionaire"

"Tipping The Waitress With Diamonds"

"Taken by the Billionaire Werewolf"...

Alliekit, you'll soon find (if you haven't already realized it) that there is NO safe place for women to discuss issues on WP. An angry, maladjusted minority of men seek out threads like this one to hijack, derail, and spew misogyny.

I've seen the werewolf and the vampire ones, but I don't think I've seen any with aliens. Just for a laugh, have you got any sample titles?

And I did say it wasn't conclusive evidence, but given that a fantasy isn't constrained by reality, it can easily veer off into impossible-territory for the sake of the story. That being said, the prevalence of wealth as a characteristic for the desired man in these works suggests that the statement "many women are attracted to wealth and social status" isn't unreasonable.

guys, this is the women's discussion forum, not the love and dating forum.

While there is an element of truth in both sides of this issue, I don't understand why people have to be so combative in discussing this.

Obviously there are stereotypes in society that are incorrect (and some stereotypes that exist for a reason even if they don't apply to all men and all women).

It would be way cooler if people discussed these things in a civil manner.

Ah, we're talking the "Superman" type of alien. I was thinking of little green men.

But yeah, I download a lot of unsorted ebook-packs, and I often have to go through them manually to clear out the Harlequins, so I've sort of made a game out of finding the worst/weirdest titles.