men create more housework for women
Since western women have a choice, why do they deserve sympathy for having to live with the choices they made???
How ironic you're whining about a situation which Your yourself are NOT and have NEVER been in!!

Might I add- there ARE Plen-ty of single women here in the US who do have children and even own their own houses but guess what? 60% of those single mothers live in Poverty! Imagine having to pick up after the messes that children make in your house AND work full-time! The only inch all give you is that women who dont plan to have children dont need a husband but many want one anyway. The whole premise of the pilot post in this thread is incredibly Stupid, self-righteous, whiny, entitled, and just plain Untrue. End of Story.


Empathy, perhaps?
Even in the western world men are slobbish control-freaks who make life miserable for "their" women. (Not all of them, but it still happens and is practically culturally accepted as normal.) And women never have quite the same freedoms as men due to their complicated biological processes. The average woman must make a thousand difficult personal sacrifices that her male counterparts never need to consider.
Buzz off and get a sex change.
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Also if you do anything wrong you never hear the end of it.

You're thinking of children, not female partners.
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Flakey does not lift a finger with the housework. He leaves a trail of garbage behind him wherever he goes.
It sucks, because I am a horrible horrible housekeeper.
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Also if you do anything wrong you never hear the end of it.

You're thinking of children, not female partners.
Good description of you maybe. Maybe you will have more respect for men as you get older.

Also if you do anything wrong you never hear the end of it.

You're thinking of children, not female partners.
Good description of you maybe. Maybe you will have more respect for men as you get older.
What? I wasn't aware of being disrespectful to anyone.

Care to expound?
Anyhow, do you mean to imply that I should respect all men, indiscriminately? I don't know about you, but I would much prefer the freedom to learn to respect a person as an individual, not be forced fall to their feet like a dog simply because of their gender.
And I gladly tip my hat to any man that does his fair share of housework... assuming such a creature exists.

Another thing... It seems to me that describing a woman as "an emotional little need bucket" seems to indicate a deeply disrespectful attitude towards women.
Perhaps it is you who should grow up and learn some respect...
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Also if you do anything wrong you never hear the end of it.

You're thinking of children, not female partners.
Good description of you maybe. Maybe you will have more respect for men as you get older.
What? I wasn't aware of being disrespectful to anyone.

Care to expound?
Anyhow, do you mean to imply that I should respect all men, indiscriminately? I don't know about you, but I would much prefer the freedom to learn to respect a person as an individual, not be forced fall to their feet like a dog simply because of their gender.
And I gladly tip my hat to any man that does his fair share of housework... assuming such a creature exists.

Another thing... It seems to me that describing a woman as "an emotional little need bucket" seems to indicate a deeply disrespectful attitude towards women.
Perhaps it is you who should grow up and learn some respect...
Well do your respect All women by default since you are a woman? I certainly dont feel the same way about *all* men-even though I am a man.

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Also if you do anything wrong you never hear the end of it.

You're thinking of children, not female partners.
Good description of you maybe. Maybe you will have more respect for men as you get older.
What? I wasn't aware of being disrespectful to anyone.

Care to expound?
Anyhow, do you mean to imply that I should respect all men, indiscriminately? I don't know about you, but I would much prefer the freedom to learn to respect a person as an individual, not be forced fall to their feet like a dog simply because of their gender.
And I gladly tip my hat to any man that does his fair share of housework... assuming such a creature exists.

Another thing... It seems to me that describing a woman as "an emotional little need bucket" seems to indicate a deeply disrespectful attitude towards women.
Perhaps it is you who should grow up and learn some respect...
ok
And they are soooo judgemental!
I thought you were saying I was like Micheal Jackson, I took that as a burn.
No you shouldn't respect all men. There are bad men out there, just like the are bad woman out there. I'm less naive about woman than I used to be. It's a two way street, I don't respect anyone that doesn't respect me.
"an emotional little need bucket", well it really does get like that.
I just find women bitching about men all the time annoying. Woman tend to have low selfesteem, instead of building it up by putting men down, or trying to make yourself more attractive. You should find other ways that are less negative or shallow.
Well it can sometimes be hard to respect woman, don't worry I still do. They can wear you down after a while.

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Also if you do anything wrong you never hear the end of it.

You're thinking of children, not female partners.
Good description of you maybe. Maybe you will have more respect for men as you get older.
What? I wasn't aware of being disrespectful to anyone.

Care to expound?
Anyhow, do you mean to imply that I should respect all men, indiscriminately? I don't know about you, but I would much prefer the freedom to learn to respect a person as an individual, not be forced fall to their feet like a dog simply because of their gender.
And I gladly tip my hat to any man that does his fair share of housework... assuming such a creature exists.

Another thing... It seems to me that describing a woman as "an emotional little need bucket" seems to indicate a deeply disrespectful attitude towards women.
Perhaps it is you who should grow up and learn some respect...
ok
And they are soooo judgemental!
I thought you were saying I was like Micheal Jackson, I took that as a burn.
No you shouldn't respect all men. There are bad men out there, just like the are bad woman out there. I'm less naive about woman than I used to be. It's a two way street, I don't respect anyone that doesn't respect me.
"an emotional little need bucket", well it really does get like that.
I just find women bitching about men all the time annoying. Woman tend to have low selfesteem, instead of building it up by putting men down, or trying to make yourself more attractive. You should find other ways that are less negative or shallow.
Well it can sometimes be hard to respect woman, don't worry I still do. They can wear you down after a while.

Micheal Jackson didn't even cross my mind. And the part of my earlier message that you quoted was intentionally over-the-top (I was joking, mostly.)
I don't agree with anything you just said about "women" (as though we were one big homogenous group, lacking in individuality and personal character), but I'll refrain from spitting acid in your eyes as I have done a lot of that lately and I fear it will damage my teeth.
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Wow. Lot of male and female bashing going on here.
My husband is definitely less tidy than me. Also he frequently unintentionally makes messes by knocking things over, spilling food, etc. A lot of time he doesn't clean up after himself simply because the mess doesn't bother him. I don't think he's being inconsiderate; he just has a different level of desire for cleanliness and organization. Since I am an at-home mom, I do most of the housework, which is fine with me. When I do ask my husband to help out, he is very willing to do so. If I sat on my butt all day and did nothing, I don't think he would mind, so I don't feel like I'm being forced to do anything.
My husband is definitely less tidy than me. Also he frequently unintentionally makes messes by knocking things over, spilling food, etc. A lot of time he doesn't clean up after himself simply because the mess doesn't bother him. I don't think he's being inconsiderate; he just has a different level of desire for cleanliness and organization. Since I am an at-home mom, I do most of the housework, which is fine with me. When I do ask my husband to help out, he is very willing to do so. If I sat on my butt all day and did nothing, I don't think he would mind, so I don't feel like I'm being forced to do anything.
See there ya go folks(Ladies I mean:mrgreen:)-a marriage requires Work for both partners! . If the Hubby is out working 9-5 Monday thru Friday does that mean that the wifey is entitled to sit on her Butt all day and then expect Mr to cook and clean when he gets home from a long days work? I dont think so


My husband is definitely less tidy than me. Also he frequently unintentionally makes messes by knocking things over, spilling food, etc. A lot of time he doesn't clean up after himself simply because the mess doesn't bother him. I don't think he's being inconsiderate; he just has a different level of desire for cleanliness and organization. Since I am an at-home mom, I do most of the housework, which is fine with me. When I do ask my husband to help out, he is very willing to do so. If I sat on my butt all day and did nothing, I don't think he would mind, so I don't feel like I'm being forced to do anything.
See there ya go folks(Ladies I mean:mrgreen:)-a marriage requires Work for both partners! . If the Hubby is out working 9-5 Monday thru Friday does that mean that the wifey is entitled to sit on her Butt all day and then expect Mr to cook and clean when he gets home from a long days work? I dont think so


Some women have or want jobs; don't know if you realized.

This is part of the covert sexism in society that I was talking about; the belief that men are the heads of the household and the breadwinners while women are often unable to get jobs as well paid as their male counterparts (not through lack of skill, but due to the institutional sexism present in the employment environment that enables female discrimination - women are not considered reliable workers due to their biology - childbirth and such - and are not given the same work opportunities) and thus are expected to sacrifice their independence and live as house-bound slaves. And believe me, no woman truly wants that (ever wondered why so many "housewives" are depressed? They are bored out of their minds with no real source of personal pride or interest in life.) Thanks for proving my point for me, Bucky.


You're an annoying, obnoxious little troll and I want to suck out your brain through your eyesockets.
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