"AS men have it harder"--does this bother you?
27 Jul 2010, 3:31 am
lotusblossom wrote:
Yes I find it very annoying.
I dont think it matters who has it harder, 'snipeing' at each other does not help anyone.
When ever I read an aspie guy say spiteful things about aspie women haveing it easier, I cant help but think that his bitterness to women might be what is stopping him date.
Personally I would much rather be a virgin than have experienced rape and violence (80% of special needs women experience sexual assault before 18 years- aspergers and girls book p75)
aspie men and women get lonely, experience exclusion and heart ache, they should be supporting eachother not attacking.
I dont think it matters who has it harder, 'snipeing' at each other does not help anyone.
When ever I read an aspie guy say spiteful things about aspie women haveing it easier, I cant help but think that his bitterness to women might be what is stopping him date.
Personally I would much rather be a virgin than have experienced rape and violence (80% of special needs women experience sexual assault before 18 years- aspergers and girls book p75)
aspie men and women get lonely, experience exclusion and heart ache, they should be supporting eachother not attacking.
I agree with this post.
27 Jul 2010, 6:52 am
tweety_fan wrote:
lotusblossom wrote:
Yes I find it very annoying.
I dont think it matters who has it harder, 'snipeing' at each other does not help anyone.
When ever I read an aspie guy say spiteful things about aspie women haveing it easier, I cant help but think that his bitterness to women might be what is stopping him date.
Personally I would much rather be a virgin than have experienced rape and violence (80% of special needs women experience sexual assault before 18 years- aspergers and girls book p75)
aspie men and women get lonely, experience exclusion and heart ache, they should be supporting eachother not attacking.
I dont think it matters who has it harder, 'snipeing' at each other does not help anyone.
When ever I read an aspie guy say spiteful things about aspie women haveing it easier, I cant help but think that his bitterness to women might be what is stopping him date.
Personally I would much rather be a virgin than have experienced rape and violence (80% of special needs women experience sexual assault before 18 years- aspergers and girls book p75)
aspie men and women get lonely, experience exclusion and heart ache, they should be supporting eachother not attacking.
I agree with this post.
I have to agree with this too. I'm not a fan of sniping at one another on this forum (and lately that seems to be much of what we do), but the 'it's easier for women' myth seems to be surprisingly prevalent among aspie males. Special needs women, including aspie females, are far far more likely to experience many types of abuse and sexual violence than other females. I speak from personal experience. So, although I don't like sniping at other aspies, to be told that I 'have it easier' is humiliating, and belittles what has been a degree of pain and struggle that few aspie males have ever experienced.
If anything, I'd say that aspie women have it harder as in addition to the above, we are far less likely to be diagnosed or to receive help.
27 Jul 2010, 7:26 am
ZakFiend wrote:
There are a lot of self righteous ignorant posters in here who have no clue what they are talking about. You see a lot of women using shaming language rather then hard numbers.
Numbers don't lie. It is not all relative. Someone who is burned alive suffers more then someone who isn't. Anyone who disputes this is simply incapable of thinking rationally.
Women cannot relate to the suffering of AS men because they've never had to live as a man, this is the whole issue in the end.
It is not a contest, we were speaking in terms of numbers. Generally speaking, more often then not AS men suffer more then AS women. This does not mean all AS women do not suffer equally as much as AS men, but the odds are in the favor of women when it comes to life outcomes.
Generally speaking males have it much more difficult since women are such self-righteous egotists, just look at how women in this thread argue - notice the self-righteousness and haughtness but emotional relativism but no talk of numbers or frequency of relationships, and their length and their impact on health over a period of time.
It is well known males have it more difficult then AS females, since males get diagnosed more often BECAUSE their lives are at some kind of breaking point. The numbers of AS females being diagnosed would go up if they were having the same kind of life altering problems, period. The fact that more AS girls are not diagnosed means their lives are less effected, period.
It's a mathematical certainty that this is the case.
Numbers don't lie. It is not all relative. Someone who is burned alive suffers more then someone who isn't. Anyone who disputes this is simply incapable of thinking rationally.
Women cannot relate to the suffering of AS men because they've never had to live as a man, this is the whole issue in the end.
It is not a contest, we were speaking in terms of numbers. Generally speaking, more often then not AS men suffer more then AS women. This does not mean all AS women do not suffer equally as much as AS men, but the odds are in the favor of women when it comes to life outcomes.
Generally speaking males have it much more difficult since women are such self-righteous egotists, just look at how women in this thread argue - notice the self-righteousness and haughtness but emotional relativism but no talk of numbers or frequency of relationships, and their length and their impact on health over a period of time.
It is well known males have it more difficult then AS females, since males get diagnosed more often BECAUSE their lives are at some kind of breaking point. The numbers of AS females being diagnosed would go up if they were having the same kind of life altering problems, period. The fact that more AS girls are not diagnosed means their lives are less effected, period.
It's a mathematical certainty that this is the case.
Well you've convinced me - everything men or women could suffer from does not compare to the absolute shocking horror of a whiny man not getting laid. Which has NOTHING to do with him complaining, taking his problems out on everyone but refusing to look at himself, calling women self-righteous and haughty for sharing their experiences and daring to object to violence and objectification of women. Who can deny the numbers! The overwhelmingly persuasive numbers that prove his point that are written in invisible font. How very true it is, that people being burnt alive suffer more than those who aren't! I wasn't even aware that they'd brought back witch burnings (which all happened to men because women don't suffer - it's a mathematical fact). Well played sir, well played.
I am beginning to think that whiny men do have it harder, but it is by their own making. And that women often have different symptoms or may learn to mask AS is pretty well documented, doesn't make it easier in any way. And I agree, far too much sniping and immaturity - I don't think it matters who has it harder, I think it matters that we support each other, especially given that the world isn't a very AS friendly place to start with.
27 Jul 2010, 8:53 am
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
...I'm female. I got physically attacked in school as well as sexually harassed by boys who thought it was okay to grab my breasts and all sorts of other pleasantries. ...I get harassed and manhandled by drunk morons, yes. Hit on by normal guys who want a relationship and sex? No.
MechanicalGirl, I am deeply sorry that these things happened to you. This is not representative of normal guys and certainly not guys with AS.
Depending on your definition, I was drugged and raped myself - but not by a woman, but by an older man. I never even knew that it had happened until pictures of the event surfaced on the internet some 20 years later and after the man who did it died. It was very weird seeing myself like that sprawled out buck naked and unconscious on his bed, fully erect with his hand around it.. Shock, disbelief, demoralized, betrayed by someone I trusted, you name it.
I seriously doubt I am the only one this has happened to. Male or female.
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Wrong. A woman can say she was raped if there is proof she was forced into it against her will.
Not true. Absent of concrete proof, If a woman says a man raped her, the presumption is that she is telling the truth. If a man says that he was raped, the presumption is that he is lying. That's a double standard, where men must have a higher degree of burden to prove that they were raped.
I was recently working in a job where I had to work with a bitchy pregnant woman. This woman didn't like me and would do anything to get me fired. One day, she says "Get over here I need to show you something on the computer." I went over and sat down. She starts doing things on the computer, covers the mouse with her fat belly and then tells me "Ok, click that." I reach and carefully pull the mouse out and then she starts screaming that I was fondling her. The next day I was let go without any opportunity to explain what really happened.
Again, the presumption was that all guys do that sort of thing and girls never lie about it. Being that I'm asexual, I have no drive to grope a woman period. But because I'm male, I'm automatically guilty.
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When were you ever expected to keep yourself 15kg underweight, just to please society and look 'sexy'?
When were you ever expected to keep yourself 15kg overweight by working out every day at the gym, just to please society and look 'muscular'?
When were you ridiculed and seen as disgusting if you didn't?
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When have you EVER been dismissed as just your sexual parts?
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Were you taught by your culture as a teen that your role in a relationship is to do whatever the other person wants, even if it involves swallowing body fluids, even if it makes you want to puke?
Pretty much yes. As I said before, I'm asexual, but I didn't know that back then. Girls pressured me into sexual activities with them. I hated it, but I did what I was expected to do. I'm currently in a non-sexual relationship with a wonderful NT woman. We do have close physical contact, but not sex. But most guys aren't asexual. If you have a relationship, you should only do those things that make you comfortable. If you don't like giving oral, then what about getting it? What if your boyfriend isn't happy doing it to you? If he is a descent guy, his motivation is to please you - and that means doing what you want irregardless of his personal feelings.
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Were you ever intimidated into not using a condom, even though it might be protecting you from AIDS, because your partner was bigger than you and sounded angry?
I was young and ignorant and didn't even know what a condom was back then. Fortunately, they didn't have Aids back then. She was a neighborhood friend and moved away right after that. I don't think she got pregnant or at least I never heard about it if she did.
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Yeah. Men have all the problems and we women just whine while being treated like royalty. Don't make me throw up my magnesium tablets...I need those. :rolleyes:
Finally, we agree on something.
27 Jul 2010, 2:59 pm
God the level of misogyny with some posters on this thread is disgusting.
With the rest. I think in certian regards guys have it easier, and in certian regards they have it harder. You can walk down the street without being sexually harassed. Yeah, for aspie guys starting relationships may be harder, but considering the inconsiderate entitled jerks, uhh, I mean "nice guys" who are writing, I am not exactly shocked that they struggle. Here is a hint, desperation really stinks, and is very obvious, women can pick up these issues. Women pick up alot of danger signs, red flags you probably don't even know you are raising. Straight women especially, and they are not going to tell you these issues. Because to be frank, there is probably alot of them, and you are probably not at the appropriate maturity level to listen to them and grow from the experience. Most women don't have the patience for that type of relationship to work things out, thos who do are rare, and often have issues of thier own.
27 Jul 2010, 5:53 pm
n4mwd wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
...I'm female. I got physically attacked in school as well as sexually harassed by boys who thought it was okay to grab my breasts and all sorts of other pleasantries. ...I get harassed and manhandled by drunk morons, yes. Hit on by normal guys who want a relationship and sex? No.
MechanicalGirl, I am deeply sorry that these things happened to you. This is not representative of normal guys and certainly not guys with AS.
Depending on your definition, I was drugged and raped myself - but not by a woman, but by an older man. I never even knew that it had happened until pictures of the event surfaced on the internet some 20 years later and after the man who did it died. It was very weird seeing myself like that sprawled out buck naked and unconscious on his bed, fully erect with his hand around it.. Shock, disbelief, demoralized, betrayed by someone I trusted, you name it.
I seriously doubt I am the only one this has happened to. Male or female.
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Wrong. A woman can say she was raped if there is proof she was forced into it against her will.
Not true. Absent of concrete proof, If a woman says a man raped her, the presumption is that she is telling the truth. If a man says that he was raped, the presumption is that he is lying. That's a double standard, where men must have a higher degree of burden to prove that they were raped.
I was recently working in a job where I had to work with a bitchy pregnant woman. This woman didn't like me and would do anything to get me fired. One day, she says "Get over here I need to show you something on the computer." I went over and sat down. She starts doing things on the computer, covers the mouse with her fat belly and then tells me "Ok, click that." I reach and carefully pull the mouse out and then she starts screaming that I was fondling her. The next day I was let go without any opportunity to explain what really happened.
Again, the presumption was that all guys do that sort of thing and girls never lie about it. Being that I'm asexual, I have no drive to grope a woman period. But because I'm male, I'm automatically guilty.
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When were you ever expected to keep yourself 15kg underweight, just to please society and look 'sexy'?
When were you ever expected to keep yourself 15kg overweight by working out every day at the gym, just to please society and look 'muscular'?
When were you ridiculed and seen as disgusting if you didn't?
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When have you EVER been dismissed as just your sexual parts?
See above.Quote:
Were you taught by your culture as a teen that your role in a relationship is to do whatever the other person wants, even if it involves swallowing body fluids, even if it makes you want to puke?
Pretty much yes. As I said before, I'm asexual, but I didn't know that back then. Girls pressured me into sexual activities with them. I hated it, but I did what I was expected to do. I'm currently in a non-sexual relationship with a wonderful NT woman. We do have close physical contact, but not sex. But most guys aren't asexual. If you have a relationship, you should only do those things that make you comfortable. If you don't like giving oral, then what about getting it? What if your boyfriend isn't happy doing it to you? If he is a descent guy, his motivation is to please you - and that means doing what you want irregardless of his personal feelings.
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Were you ever intimidated into not using a condom, even though it might be protecting you from AIDS, because your partner was bigger than you and sounded angry?
I was young and ignorant and didn't even know what a condom was back then. Fortunately, they didn't have Aids back then. She was a neighborhood friend and moved away right after that. I don't think she got pregnant or at least I never heard about it if she did.
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Yeah. Men have all the problems and we women just whine while being treated like royalty. Don't make me throw up my magnesium tablets...I need those. :rolleyes:
Finally, we agree on something.
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MechanicalGirl, I am deeply sorry that these things happened to you. This is not representative of normal guys and certainly not guys with AS.
Normal guys, and AS? No. But it IS representative of a certain 'underclass' that sadly proliferates in most schools - people who don't care, make a whole counterculture out of not caring, and compete with each other to see who is the baddest. These types treat girls as bits of meat for their own entertainment, and teachers shrug and say 'boys will be boys'. This s**t does happen, and it is so common as to be routine.
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Depending on your definition, I was drugged and raped myself - but not by a woman, but by an older man. I never even knew that it had happened until pictures of the event surfaced on the internet some 20 years later and after the man who did it died. It was very weird seeing myself like that sprawled out buck naked and unconscious on his bed, fully erect with his hand around it.. Shock, disbelief, demoralized, betrayed by someone I trusted, you name it....
...I was recently working in a job where I had to work with a bitchy pregnant woman. This woman didn't like me and would do anything to get me fired. One day, she says "Get over here I need to show you something on the computer." I went over and sat down. She starts doing things on the computer, covers the mouse with her fat belly and then tells me "Ok, click that." I reach and carefully pull the mouse out and then she starts screaming that I was fondling her. The next day I was let go without any opportunity to explain what really happened.
...I was recently working in a job where I had to work with a bitchy pregnant woman. This woman didn't like me and would do anything to get me fired. One day, she says "Get over here I need to show you something on the computer." I went over and sat down. She starts doing things on the computer, covers the mouse with her fat belly and then tells me "Ok, click that." I reach and carefully pull the mouse out and then she starts screaming that I was fondling her. The next day I was let go without any opportunity to explain what really happened.
I'm sorry that s**t happened to you, and it is heinous and inexcusable, and that dude needs to go to jail for life.
But it doesn't make you right when you spew generalizations. You actually said that AS girls only suffer rejection by the cool pack while boys get beaten up. That might be the case for SOME girls, and lucky them, but to say that is a slap across the face for people like myself, millie, and a shedload of others who really did get assaulted for being 'different'.
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When were you ever expected to keep yourself 15kg overweight by working out every day at the gym, just to please society and look 'muscular'?
Yes, men are held to unrealistic ideals too, and it sucks. But being expected to be muscular doesn't compare to being expected to keep yourself underweight to the point of looking like a baby bird. The resistance training needed for that will give you useful strength, a high metabolism, and good bone density. Staying excessively thin is neither useful nor good for your health.
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If you have a relationship, you should only do those things that make you comfortable. If you don't like giving oral, then what about getting it? What if your boyfriend isn't happy doing it to you? If he is a descent guy, his motivation is to please you - and that means doing what you want irregardless of his personal feelings.
No, the two partners should aim to please each other fairly.
I would never ask a guy to do anything he wasn't 100% comfortable with. I'd never ask for oral sex, either. If the guy actively chose to, I wouldn't say no, but it's a pretty extreme thing and not something to ask for.
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27 Jul 2010, 9:28 pm
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I'm sorry that sh** happened to you, and it is heinous and inexcusable, and that dude needs to go to jail for life.
Too late for jail. He's dead. He was about 40 years older than me and had a lot of large photos on the walls in his house of naked girls in similar conditions. I did not suspect at the time that they were drugged or being involuntarily photographed. There was also absolutely no evidence that he had any interest in guys. The only thing, in retrospect, was that I thought that it was strange that although he lived in a beach house, his son, about my age, refused to live with him. Living in a beachfront house is something that a lot of people would like if they had the choice. I suspect that this is what he used to lure those girls in there.
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Yes, men are held to unrealistic ideals too, and it sucks. But being expected to be muscular doesn't compare to being expected to keep yourself underweight to the point of looking like a baby bird. The resistance training needed for that will give you useful strength, a high metabolism, and good bone density. Staying excessively thin is neither useful nor good for your health.
But if you don't want attention from men, then why are you doing it? Why not take a trip to McDonalds and supersize yourself?
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No, the two partners should aim to please each other fairly.
True, but if my girlfriend felt that sex was extremely important to her, I would consider it, just for the fact that it would make her happy. So far, she has made no such demands on me because she knows I don't like it. Still, there is always that little feeling in the back of my head that makes me worry that my hangup is harming our relationship.
As far as which aspie gender has it better, I guess its simply a case of the grass being greener on the other side of the fence. Compared with other male aspies on here, there are clearly some that have had it worse than me and some that have had it way better. I'm sure you could probably say the same thing abut female aspies.
28 Jul 2010, 10:03 am
n4mwd wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I'm sorry that sh** happened to you, and it is heinous and inexcusable, and that dude needs to go to jail for life.
Too late for jail. He's dead. He was about 40 years older than me and had a lot of large photos on the walls in his house of naked girls in similar conditions. I did not suspect at the time that they were drugged or being involuntarily photographed. There was also absolutely no evidence that he had any interest in guys. The only thing, in retrospect, was that I thought that it was strange that although he lived in a beach house, his son, about my age, refused to live with him. Living in a beachfront house is something that a lot of people would like if they had the choice. I suspect that this is what he used to lure those girls in there.
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Yes, men are held to unrealistic ideals too, and it sucks. But being expected to be muscular doesn't compare to being expected to keep yourself underweight to the point of looking like a baby bird. The resistance training needed for that will give you useful strength, a high metabolism, and good bone density. Staying excessively thin is neither useful nor good for your health.
But if you don't want attention from men, then why are you doing it? Why not take a trip to McDonalds and supersize yourself?
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No, the two partners should aim to please each other fairly.
True, but if my girlfriend felt that sex was extremely important to her, I would consider it, just for the fact that it would make her happy. So far, she has made no such demands on me because she knows I don't like it. Still, there is always that little feeling in the back of my head that makes me worry that my hangup is harming our relationship.
As far as which aspie gender has it better, I guess its simply a case of the grass being greener on the other side of the fence. Compared with other male aspies on here, there are clearly some that have had it worse than me and some that have had it way better. I'm sure you could probably say the same thing abut female aspies.
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But if you don't want attention from men, then why are you doing it? Why not take a trip to McDonalds and supersize yourself?
I don't. I've tried supersizing myself already. I have a ramjet engine of a metabolism, lol. And sadly I was born with the rare 'lollipop' body type, ie thin frame and large breasts. I really want them reduced, but I'm not gonna be able to afford that any time soon.
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As far as which aspie gender has it better, I guess its simply a case of the grass being greener on the other side of the fence. Compared with other male aspies on here, there are clearly some that have had it worse than me and some that have had it way better. I'm sure you could probably say the same thing abut female aspies
Yeah, it's easy enough to think other people's problems are a piece of piss compared to your own. I hate being seen as a sex object and assumed to be weak, but I'm sure guys equally hate always being expected to prove their masculinity..
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28 Jul 2010, 4:32 pm
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I don't. I've tried supersizing myself already. I have a ramjet engine of a metabolism, lol. And sadly I was born with the rare 'lollipop' body type, ie thin frame and large breasts. I really want them reduced, but I'm not gonna be able to afford that any time soon.
Honestly, you describe yourself in a way that I think a LOT of women would be quite envious of you. I realize that this causes you a lot of unwanted attention, but other women might actually suffer the other extreme.
Because of a variety of things, I am the atypical guy and I really dislike big boobs. No offense to you or my GF who has the same problem (except that she has a plus size body type). My idea of a perfect woman's chest would be so flat that she could put on board shorts and pass as a boy on the beach.
But in your case, I really suggest leaving them alone unless they are causing you back problems, etc. While I may be in the minority, I generally believe that women should leave their breasts as-is.
28 Jul 2010, 4:51 pm
n4mwd wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I don't. I've tried supersizing myself already. I have a ramjet engine of a metabolism, lol. And sadly I was born with the rare 'lollipop' body type, ie thin frame and large breasts. I really want them reduced, but I'm not gonna be able to afford that any time soon.
Honestly, you describe yourself in a way that I think a LOT of women would be quite envious of you. I realize that this causes you a lot of unwanted attention, but other women might actually suffer the other extreme.
Because of a variety of things, I am the atypical guy and I really dislike big boobs. No offense to you or my GF who has the same problem (except that she has a plus size body type). My idea of a perfect woman's chest would be so flat that she could put on board shorts and pass as a boy on the beach.
But in your case, I really suggest leaving them alone unless they are causing you back problems, etc. While I may be in the minority, I generally believe that women should leave their breasts as-is.
I don't care and I think my feelings are as valid as any other woman's, including the size A women who want big ones.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
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28 Jul 2010, 6:29 pm
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I don't care and I think my feelings are as valid as any other woman's, including the size A women who want big ones.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
Speaking of being a baby maker, you didn't say if you have already had children or if you plan to some day. The problem with breast reduction is that it can adversely affect your ability to lactate after giving birth. I wont go into all the details now, but breast feeding is extremely important for a healthy baby and cannot be adequately replaced by formula. If you insist on such surgery, I hope you will delay it until after you have had all the kids you want and lactation is no longer necessary.
28 Jul 2010, 6:31 pm
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I don't care and I think my feelings are as valid as any other woman's, including the size A women who want big ones.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
Don't feel the least bit bad for how you feel. I was rail thin for years... with c cup breasts. Now I've got that annoying but (weirdly enough) coveted hourglass figure. I hate it so much.
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28 Jul 2010, 6:34 pm
n4mwd wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I don't care and I think my feelings are as valid as any other woman's, including the size A women who want big ones.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
Speaking of being a baby maker, you didn't say if you have already had children or if you plan to some day. The problem with breast reduction is that it can adversely affect your ability to lactate after giving birth. I wont go into all the details now, but breast feeding is extremely important for a healthy baby and cannot be adequately replaced by formula. If you insist on such surgery, I hope you will delay it until after you have had all the kids you want and lactation is no longer necessary.
I agree completely. My cousin had a breast reduction for medical reasons at 18 and she was very upset that she couldn't breastfeed her daughter. It fueled her postpartum depression.
Also... that lollipop figure will most likely go away after children due to a widening of the hips. Many women actually have smaller breasts after childbirth, as well.
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28 Jul 2010, 6:35 pm
n4mwd wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I don't care and I think my feelings are as valid as any other woman's, including the size A women who want big ones.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
I HATE them, they are intrusive, they make me feel ungainly, and they take away from my more androgynous identity.
They're disgusting. I do NOT wish to look like a sexual ornament, or a baby maker.
And I feel uneasy and endangered in summer clothes.
Speaking of being a baby maker, you didn't say if you have already had children or if you plan to some day. The problem with breast reduction is that it can adversely affect your ability to lactate after giving birth. I wont go into all the details now, but breast feeding is extremely important for a healthy baby and cannot be adequately replaced by formula. If you insist on such surgery, I hope you will delay it until after you have had all the kids you want and lactation is no longer necessary.
I never want kids. If I change my mind I'll adopt one. The idea of being pregnant makes me want to violently throw up.
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