Could you date a grown man who likes hentai rape animation?
I find some of the attitudes towards this subject very disturbing. Child sex offenders in my experience make excuses and constantly try to justify their unacceptable behaviour.
Its not acceptable.
It is damaging for victims to to know that their images are still being viewed.
Viewing child sex abuse images (I won't call them porn, because it is another way of making it seems more normal) is not acceptable behaviour, nor is it victimless.
We're referring to animated genres like hentai but also drawings and cartoons - things created without children remotely being involved, fits of people's imagination, nothing more than works of fiction.
Yes, real child abuse images must always be illegal but this is something entirely different, where no children are harmed. In Britain, hentai and cartoon porn "featuring characters that look like children" are banned too.
Did you skim over the top part of my post where I explained how I had severe OCD that forced me to view such things in my head, or did you just decide "he's defending this so he must like it"?
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When I am daydreaming what goes on inside my head is way better then any Hollywood film.
name calling & a little irony...
so you have no problem with hollywood films, that have been portraying thousand upon thousand of murders and deaths, thousand upon thousand of bloody molested and beaten up people, never ending violence, millions and millions of bullets polluting the world with heavy metals, gallons upon gallons of blood, tragedy upon tragedy and what not... ?
and your mind depicts this even better?
and yes.... i do understand that it is fiction..........

In psychology and biochemistry it is say that the human mind cannot distinguish between reality and imagination.
This type of animated porn not change that to gratuitous violence, only helps to foster acts of sexual violence in real life.
Any scientific document backing this up?
http://www.frontiersin.org/human_neuros ... 00175/full
re imagery and emotions perception
http://www.montessori-ami.org/congress/ ... apersd.htm
Montessori education research paper on reality and fantasy
Plus this neuroscience look at illusion
http://ridgeandtheuntold.multiply.com/journal/item/127
Plus if you which look into the research of Stanislav Grof on the holotropic mind and the use of LSD in psychedelic psychotherapy and transpersonal psychology.
It's a shame I read nothing in those links that supported your claim.
Yeah, humans can't make a distinction between reality and fantasy my a$$.
I'm living proof that we can. That's why I don't go around shooting people.
Indeed you're right, there's nothing concrete in those links, it's just a counter viewpoint to the knee-jerk "burn them all" reaction to this topic. It's still very hard to ignore the glaring double standards they cite, 15 year old girl getting beaten to a pulp is fine while same girl in a bikini would land you in jail in some countries. Watching an adult woman with small breasts in a porn movie could be classified as "depicting a minor"- jailtime. Video of a murder (even a child) ... not illegal?
If nothing else do you really believe that these men and women choose to be pedophiles? (talking about an attraction to pre-pubescent children, not an ephebophile - attraction to a minor who has gone through puberty - technically almost everyone falls into that category). Someone's sexual urges cannot be turned on and off at will nor reliably changed. Obviously we cannot legalise sex between young children and adults, but their one legal outlet - cartoon depictions is on the verge of being banned, if not banned already in some countries.
I just get the feeling in 100 years time we're gonna look back in shame at the way we marginalised these folks (not to mention the damage done to relations between innocent adult men and children) . Much the same way we hang our heads thinking about the anti-gay legislation of the past.
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I just get the feeling in 100 years time we're gonna look back in shame at the way we marginalised these folks (not to mention the damage done to relations between innocent adult men and children) . Much the same way we hang our heads thinking about the anti-gay legislation of the past.
I dislike your comparison between paedophilia and homosexuality. I get what you're saying, but homosexual sex is consensual where as children cannot consent, also there's still some morons in this world who think that all homosexuals are paedophiles or vice versa.
Some paedophiles DO choose to be paedophiles.
This is why I think it's important to differentiate, between active (who have or do abuse) and inactive (have yet to abuse), and between those who have sexual attraction to children and those who see children as nothing more than sex toys to abuse - the differences are huge and play a big part in understanding and preventing abuse. It's not always just about sexual attraction, consider those who rape adults...that's not sexual attraction but violence, just like some paedophiles abuse children to be violent, out of enjoyment, a want to abuse, to make money, whatever other reason they have. These are the nasty f*ckers who repeatedly abuse, who don't care how much they harm the children they abuse, who will move to a country with looser laws so they can rape as many children as they want. These will talk about children not as objects of affection or love as those with a sexual orientation towards children, but will see children as objects of abuse - these are the animals you can't prevent abusing without locking them up for life or putting to death, there's nothing to their 'attraction' to children other than a want to abuse.
I do think the way in which we approach paedophilia is horrific.
For some this is a sexual attraction that they cannot help, or some are survivors of childhood sexual abuse themselves so find it hard to fully understand that this sort of relationship isn't one of love but of abuse - these people need to have access to help to prevent them acting on urges without fear of being put on a sex offenders list or have threats made to their life. We as a society have a [understandable] knee-jerk reaction to this subject, but this makes prevention difficult - lack of help and 'outing' paedophiles so they are driven underground. We need to get over this knee-jerk reaction to the subject and look at how to prevent abuse, not dehumanise such people or pretend they're not a threat, and then beat them to death once they do abuse our kids.
It also doesn't help that parents still refuse to educate their young children about sex, anatomy, healthy relationships and self-esteem - this is exactly why five-years-old's should be given sex education in schools, because parent's can't always be trusted to understand that their children are sexual beings or that as such they need to teach them the difference between what is healthy and what is abuse. Instead parents continue teaching 'stranger danger' and think that's enough. The blame for children being abused does NOT lay solely with the abusers, but with the people who stand by and do nothing to prevent them by providing help or maintaining harsher punishments for those who abuse children. Childhood sexual abuse is so common it's scary, chances are every one on this thread has either been abused as a child or know someone who was, obviously something with the way in which we deal with this is failing.
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Yeah, humans can't make a distinction between reality and fantasy my a$$.
I'm living proof that we can. That's why I don't go around shooting people.
We got something in common then. On Friday I read a few number of them PUA books its very clear from my research that your claims don't total match and support you ideas about PUA that you made in L&D. Well are you living proof then? I'll believe that when I see it!! You still living your life right now so whos when you will go around shooting people now
Wow, Tequila is still doing his best to defend his right to watch animation of adults or monsters having sex with underage teens and children. I guess every cause needs it's champion even if it is being a connoisseur of animated images of children or teens being raped for his enjoyment. I guess he thinks if he keeps arguing and presenting data proving it's not harmful or even benefical he can turn your views of pedophilia around. I guess everyone needs a purpose in life. But I think his views are sick especially his trying to make it into a freedom of expression case. Also it is messed up that he will come after you in the thread trying to make you look like the monster for not supporting his right to watch animated sex acts involving children and teens. I wonder how his neighbors would react if they knew his views.
Its not acceptable.
My opinion is people who view videos or animation of children engaged in illegal sex acts that have not acted on their sexual prefrences is only because the opertunity has not become available to them to molest a child. They will sit there and say I never touched a child this is a victimless crime. Its just they had not had an opertunity to do so if they were put in direct contact with a kid and left alone with the child something bad would happen especially if they think they can get away with it.
Their prefrence is for children so they will sooner or later will act upon it. I know I like adult women even though I have Aspergers I flirt with them when I get to know them and feel comfortable around them. When I worked at the resteraunt and at a factory that all had a lot of female workers once I got to know them I would put myself in situations where I would get to work with the ones I liked or thought I had a chance with so I could flirt with them to make them laugh to try to get them to like me. I did what I had to, to try to have sex with them and that is coming from a guy who does not like to be touched and suffers from social anxiety. I made fun of their boyfriends and undercut them making the boyfriend look bad when they were going through a rough patch. It worked at least three times over a nine year period. People will do whatever it takes to have sex it is a strong drive in most people that are not aesexual.
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Pedophiles are monsters.
If I were a mod, I would perma-ban any members that expressed an interest in pedophilia and/or pedo-porn, or who even suggested that pedophilia was a defensible interest. The same goes for rapists, child abusers and wife-beaters. None of them are worth the bandwidth or the drive space.
The likes of Grand Theft Auto XXVII proves the point.
You might wish to read this its about virtual reality and human behaviour,
I seen that child abuse experiment on TV is was very stocking to see plus I got me thinking about
how we humans interact with the imaginary world.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/c ... 918282.stm
Dislike it you may, but I stand by it, having a sexual preference for young children on its own is no more right or wrong than an attraction for the same sex. It's just the way some people are built (be it through nature or nurture). Obviously ACTING on those urges has far reaching and devastating consequences for one, while the other is harmless, accepted and celebrated in most parts of the world.
I'm by no means an expert in these topics, what reading I have done seems to suggest that rape is about sexual gratification and the domination, control and violence aspects are manifestations of normal male sexuality taken to extreme through the warped mind of a rapist, or necessary to complete the rape itself. The most convincing statistic I ever saw on this was the prevalence for male-on-female rape victims being between the ages of 12-24. If it's all about violence and sexual attraction has little to do with it then you'd expect the distribution to be a bit more even.
Anyway while I won't deny some people exist who abuse children "For the Evulz" nor do I deny the existence of people who rape adults for whom it is all about the violence. I do believe they are the vast minority of offenders.
With the rest of your post, I completely agree, although the last paragraph... I can't fault your reasons, but the idea of teaching 5 year olds about these things makes me very uneasy.
This kind of thinking is what fuels the witch hunt. You can't convict someone of something you think they might do in the future and just because you can't control your own desires it doesn't mean it's impossible for another stronger individual. At the very least they deserve a chance.
"Oma teaches the true nature of man is decided in the battle between the conscious mind and the desires of the subconscious"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q
Do you not mean child abusers/molesters rather than paedophiles? A lot of paedophiles remain confused, scared people with a toxic sexuality they can't fix - they wouldn't dream of going anywhere near children, and often actively avoid them. They can't go and ask for treatment, because medical records aren't confidential and word will get out. When (not if) it does they will be run out of town and be at risk of attack and murders from random thugs and irrationally angry parents.
So what do people like that do? They can't get proper medical attention to sort out their problem due to the massive risk of people finding out and making their life hell, so they go underground. In a society that hates them for what they are anyway, they're at more risk of offending. So they keep quiet - to the detriment of children everywhere.
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