NT men using our extreme focuses to sexually manipulate us

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Sounds like you've got a keeper

For those worried their autism makes you not pick up on creeps keep in mind...
This is not reserved for autistics and creeps. Alot of people can't really spot them especially the ones who are charming.
Anyways, there are male and female creeps. Be careful of both.

Female creeps will do the following:

1. Have an over the top enthusiastic voice asking you personal questions to later turn against you in an attempt to hurt your feelings.
2. Feign interest in being your friend. Ask things of you all the time even if you expressed you have difficulty with certain tasks. They will claim it's just a fear you must get over.
3. Very forgetful of what is going on in your life, if you've had struggles or a special occasion that you've invited them to. They just see you as something to use.
4. Talk behind your back turning others against you so you have no friends.
5. Disrupts your relationships.
6. If you are a perceived threat could resort to violence or getting others to chime in and do it for them.
7. Always has to smile for the camera even if someone died.


Superficial signs of creepy female that even NT's don't get because well they are just so durn pretty!
1. Big toothy grin and has so many different expressions. Obtained by practicing how to be a creepy manipulator. One expression may make the person seem warm but you start to see the other expressions where that coldness really comes out. These facial expressions change readily if one facial expression isn't getting the response the creep wants.

Karla Homolka-

(I'm a good girl. Not a creep...honest! Expression) This expression commonly used when setting the beginning of the act and of course CAMERA...gotta look good for the camera!


(Oh okay, you caught me, I am a creep. I don't have to hide it anymore!)
Notice a pattern with eyes, the look when they aren't putting on the good girl show? Be cautious of someone who uses WAY too many facial expressions or exaggerates certain expressions. That is an indicator that someone is concealing their true self or true intent. NT's are fooled by this standard social procedure alot.


Myra Hindley




(The female creep with her man creep companion. Notice how they look so great. Nobody would ever suspect because if you look good you can not do any harm.)
Both giving their big toothy smiles.




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Last edited by TheygoMew on 08 Jul 2011, 5:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

The men-

Social chameleons. Mimic your body, posture and pick up on by your demeanor, how you are dressed what you might be interested in and lure you in quickly with smiles. If your gut is telling you he is too charming, you're right.

Like the female creeps, the male creeps also have plenty of facial expressions at their disposal and can change alot. Adjusts to what role the creep assigns to oneself to gain access to their prey.

Before Ted Bundy was found guilty. Notice how he pours on the charm and that toothy smile?

This is an example of exaggerating a facial expression. Well rehearsed. Fooled many people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBpNz9RwZ-M

Joran Van Der Sloot's exaggerated smile



Joran's "Aren't I charming and slick" gaze of creepy doom



Joran doesn't have to feign expressions here because he has been arrested.





If you review the history of the victims of not knowing these people were creeps, the majority were NT. Where do people get the idea that NT's are social gurus?

If that is the case then why are millions of dollars poured into charity scams?

How in the hell did Jonestown happen? Were all of the 913 victims autistic because they didn't get the cult leader was a sociopath?

Why do I hear NT women bawling their eyes out when it is discovered months after meeting a handsome guy that it turns out he didn't really like her but she thought he did because he complimented her one day?

If NT's are experts socially then why do they get upset if someone else questions someone who seems to be giving off fake emotional responses because it is interpreted as the one questioning is a cold hearted person?

Why are so many children abused with neighbors of that abused child claim there were never any indicators!

Why are so many people shocked after it is discovered their very own neighbor has been on a murdering spree for many years?

There is very little real awareness of creeps in the media. Only some strange form of attention and notoriety plus some form of crediting which comes across as applause. It's rather sickening that there is all of this "How to spot an autistic person" but do you ever hear or see "How to spot a psychopath or narcissist" in the media? Maybe if that were the case, the sociopaths would just get better at hiding it with new and improved methods.

If you look at serial killers and their eyes, you'll notice one eye is off in la-la land at times while the other seems fully there.

Interesting observations. I think there's a lot of truth in what you say.

+1!
I always find that people who flash those brilliant, toothy smiles make me feel uneasy. That type of smile is so obviously insincere that it amazes me when other people don't pick up on it. I had a male neighbor like that. He always plastered on this brilliant smile and greeted me by name. Way over the top. I felt mistrustful of him. Later I learned that he was cheating on his fiancee with her best friend.

TheygoMew, I have to disagree with your picture profilling. Everyone has times where they don't look so good; sometimes they're caught between one facial expression and the next, sometimes they are thinking about a completely different issue. Sometimes they simply get their facial expressions from their parents or have one of those faces that looks that way. One picture doesn't say anything about the person underneath and whilst everyone has first impressions, they should be taken with a pinch of salt until you get to know the person better.

This one in particular. I don't see how you read all that from that girl's picture. She could be bored, she could be mid blink, she could be half asleep... it's only with hindsight that people can turn and say 'oo, she dunnit.. look at that cold expression...'

You have posted pictures of women known to have committed crimes, but I'm sure you can also find similar expressions on normal people too; most people when forced to smile out of politeness are not very good at faking it.



That would be most women then. NTs aren't fooled; they know it's artificial. It's a method of communicating and sometimes to make a point you do have to ham up your expression a bit.

^I disagree about NT's not being fooled. They don't know that it's artificial because when NT's grow up they learn social commands and rules of facial expressions on a superficial level. They go along with the rules. Some listen to their instinct warning them while others do not. Have you noticed that alot of people no longer believe in actions over words and that words have more merit even after repeat offenses using actions? Well he or she DID say "Sorry!" If someone doesn't accept that apology over actions of the person than the person is being cold for not accepting the person back into their life.

I'd have to say as it stands right now, things are being twisted to give the insincere leverage.

Just look at the personality tests for jobs! If you look at the cheat sheet, you'll learn that being a thrill seeker is the right option.

We're being lied to about NT's being socially smart when they aren't socially smart in some scenarios and even condemn those who feel something is bogus about a person.

I dare you to go to a messageboard where it's mostly NT. A fashion board perhaps. Start up a false charity scam (make sure you don't actually have any way to accept payment), Come up with a heart string tugging story with some questionable holes in it. Watch what happens when someone comes in to point out the inconsistencies.

Would the majority bash the person coming in to point out the inconsistencies?
Would the majority see what the person pointing out the inconsistencies is saying and drop it?


Here on WP there was a fake charity. Some people did come in to question. I noticed the ones who didn't like the questioner were NT or friends with that guy.

I could tell his story was fake and he was fake because of the inconsistencies as well.

I am tired of the regurgitated myth that autistics are gullible. All that myth is really doing is having us targeted more by predators because the predators read that we're an easy target. It's probably just so NT's can have a break.

I think we may be talking at cross-purposes. I never once said autistics were gullible.

My point was that it is unfair to judge a person's character by their face, particularily in a photo. Also that exaggerating ones expression does not ,necessarily mean one is therefore an Untrustworthy Person. There are many reasons why people act that way. In my own case it's a tendency to over-compensate for not naturally being expressive. I still mean what I say, I just act it out so the other person knows.

And how do aspies learn social commands and rules of facial expressions?



The exact same could be said of people with AS.



Why would I? This has nothing whatsoever to do with my point in my previous post.



Again, this isn't really anything to do with what I wrote, but I appreciate your point. I still think many NTs do see behind the charade though, they just choose who to confide in carefully. Outwardly it makes life easier if we all play 'lets pretend' because everyone else is. Why this is is probably a debate for another day.



I remember Seanmw's 'charity' and it wasn't just his friends supporting it; the few people who dared question where the money was going were shot down as uncharitable by many in that thread, mostly other aspies. Maybe more did doubt, but we are also subject to the same social pressures of not wanting to appear 'mean' as NTs are.

I wasn't saying you claimed autistics as gullible but that is a general stereotype which all that really does is bring forth more predators our way.

NT's which I don't classify anyone who isn't autistic as neurotypical, are given way too much credit as being social gurus when in-fact they aren't always. There is leverage for NT's in some situations such as knowing more what is going on behind the scenes in a social scenario because they have more friends that inform each other about what is really going on leaving the person without such connections clueless.

There is a delay however in getting what is going on in a social situation that you figure out later than others.

NT's if catching on and reading between the lines on time give an emotional response on time with no delay where as someone who has difficulty picking up on a situation where emotions are supposed to be involved get it later and respond at a delayed time which is why people with autism bring up a situation later when everyone else has moved on.

Sociopaths are manipulative liars. In the history of sociopaths, other sociopaths have learned from how sociopaths used to just have a stern face. They learn from these examples found in the media's depiction and the sociopath learns how other sociopaths were detected.

So using all of these facial expressions NT's love, they are able to go about their business undetected until of course caught by the law and in some cases can even get away with the crime playing whatever sympathy cards they have.

NT's are more prone to having their emotional strings pulled and once those strings are pulled toss aside logic to go forth with whatever the manipulator wants.
Sociopaths using superficial cues have used that as an aid in their crime. They can spot a softy and use that to their advantage. Meanwhile the sociopath thinks a person with autism is a softy based on their awkward mannerisms which implies easy target.

The manipulator attempts to conjure up an emotional story. Imagine what the sociopath must be thinking when coming across someone who at first appeared a meek easy target only to be met with an unemotional response. The sociopath is used to soft meek types who quickly throw logic away to cater to their feigned emotional distress.

NT's don't want us dead. Sociopaths and narcissists do.