On feeling unsafe in women only spaces

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You are braver than you think, Waterfalls. You don't have to be rude or angry when confronting a creep (although you probably are / want to be when someone is staring at your body). Just ask in a flat tone if there is something on your shirt. What is he going to do ? Hit you ?

If you are genuinely not able to call him out, then walk away. He cannot physically prevent you from leaving. Also, if it's a professional relationship, absolutely go to HR and his boss. He has NO business sexually harassing you and should be reported at the earliest to his supervisor and HR.

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some hope from humanity.

Thank you for posting this.

Those two little punks sound a lot like the girls I went to school with -- the uppity alpha females picking on the lone wolf and passing off their verbal assaults / insults as "jokes". Glad the adults stood up for the poor kid.

There just may be some hope for humanity, after all.

^
I dunno if these two girls were just acting just for the experiment, but everything about them do really sound like real bullies - even in the way they smile and stare. So either that, or they are very talented little actresses.

I liked the video. Thank you both.

I wanna ask the ladies something here, since this is a thread about women cliques...etc.

Have you ever noticed that women, especially of young ages, often form cliques by certain physical traits? ie. a group of all short women, a group of all tall women, group of over-weighted women...etc?

I have always noticed that so often.

Yes I have noticed this. However I have also noticed groups where one woman stands out as being different from the rest, and seems like she chose the group purposely for that reason. I mean for instance wedding parties where the bride is thin and short, and all the bridesmaids are all overweight and taller.

Also where I live, it's highly unusual to see people of different races or ethnicities in groups.

Never noticed this standing out thing before.



Is this true for both genders? Where I live this is true when it comes to religions, and especially among females based on my personal experiences.
From the cliques that I recall in college, there was certain religious homogeneity in cliques as well:

Clique 1: I recall a clique of 6 girls: all Christians- all short and thin girls, average looking - I was friend with this clique but they didn't seem to click well with the Muslim clique at all.
Clique 2: all-Christian except one who is Druze, average to tall, they were kind of alphas - very conventionally attractive in intimidating way, and even bold in character, there was only one among who was as short as me (I am a short guy) but she has a face of a celeb.
Clique 3: A third clique was all-Muslims, non-veiled, two tall and conventionally attractive, the third was very short, and they shunned her from the group later on.
Clique 4: 3 Christian girls, the 3 were obese.
Clique 5: 4 girls, I recall right that this was the only religiously diverse clique of girls, what they had in common that they were the nerdiest and brightest students.

Crazy, no?

There was basically two large cliques of guys, but they were diverse in shape and religiosity; I was among a very diverse group of guys (tall, fat, short, to each his faith...etc), something that I very rarely see it in a group of women.

I also always noticed that Muslim veiled girls form their own cliques, rarely mix with non-veiled girls whether Muslims or not..

It seems to be that women are generally pickier, not only at dating, but also in with who to befriend of the same sex, as if they prefer to befriend with someone of the same "type", faith and looks-wise included.

You state that you rarely see diversity (defined in terms of physical appearance or religion) among groups of girls, however your own examples do not bear this out.

Clique 2 - included both Christian and Druze, of any height (short, average or tall)
Clique 3 - 2 tall, one very short
Clique 5 - religiously diverse, no mention of appearance. You had to resort to other characteristics (intelligence) to find something they had in common.

This hardly supports your argument.

Yes, but probably more so for females and they tend to dictate what the males do to some extent.

Just thinking for instance, I was friends with a black guy in high school (I'm white). But his black female friends did not want him to be friends with me. And he limited his interaction with me because of that.

Clique 2- They were like 6 girls, only one was druze. Druzes are generally very christian-like in lifestyle, alcohol and bacon are not that prohibited for them except for their sages, they don't care about halal. 5 were closer to tall except one (for me, they were all tall except one) but they were all conventionally attractive though.

Clique 3- The very short was shunned shortly after from the group by the two tall ones, in fact, it seems they didn't like her nor liked her bf (I did recall them gossiping about her), from the beginning.

Clique 5- Ah yes, they were diverse in appearance too, intelligence is the only obvious trait they had in common.

I am not saying it's 100% homogeneous; and it seems smart people are less likely to care about shape and religion, I've seen it back in school too.

I agree that smart people tend to spend time with other smart people.

Smart is for many people a variant of atypical. It is often seen as strange, weird, other.....

So yes. I think most people want to feel accepted and acceptable.

I've noticed the similar appearance phenomenon mostly in young people. It is so difficult to find friends as you get older and maybe that contributes to more varied appearances of non-young women in groups.

People with similar interests tend to want to spend time together.

People with dissimilar interests tend to not want to hang out with each other--especially if one or the other person is set in his/her ways, and will not listen to other viewpoints. This is not always the case, though. There are times, if people want to be flexible, when people with dissimilar interests really benefit from each other.

The "similar looks" phenomenon, I find, is confined to relatively young people. Once people get out of college, this phenomenon really goes away.

So it's not just me imagining stuff, right?

For example, in the gym, I've often noticed this repeating scenario: for example, a group of women (obviously friends) passing next to me all shorter than me...then minutes later, another group of women pass by, whom all of them can easily tower me. It is how this phenomenon came to my attention!

The overweighted tend to be together there too.

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Especially in "non-enclave" neighborhoods, groups have the tendency to consist of members of many different races in New York City. Even the "enclave" neighborhoods are changing rapidly.

Bayside, Queens, for instance, which was lily-white for decades, is now multi-racial.