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The_Face_of_Boo
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12 Sep 2015, 4:55 pm
Booyakasha wrote:
yeah really, so many terrible mysognists on this forum, while we just keep on banning that psychopatic man hater. 
I+ve never seen a man open 40 accounts just to bash women.
I+ve never seen a man open 40 accounts just to bash women.
This one alone brought a total balance between misandry and misogyny here.
12 Sep 2015, 5:55 pm
12 Sep 2015, 6:08 pm
It would be nice to name names and post specific incidences of misogyny, I don't think it's that wide spread but perhaps I'm just ignorant to what you consider misogyny. Maybe I'm doing it and I don't even know! 
HELP!
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12 Sep 2015, 7:17 pm
Jacoby wrote:
Nobody is really trying to talk about misogyny tho, most of this thread is arguing about whether or not the thread title was offensive. I'd like to discuss it but what are we talking about specifically?
This
Inle wrote:
Are Aspies more likely to be misogynists than NTs? Or is this just how men really think? Makes me never want to speak to any ever again. 
There aren't that many misogynists on WP, but it exists here, it is real.
Its like bad news, it sells, even if it isn't an accurate representation of all ASD men. Its like how everyone notices the loud person in an argument shouting over the person trying to engage in a debate.
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Is the media negative? Media studies show that bad news far outweighs good news by as much as seventeen negative news reports for every one good news report. Why? The answer may lie in the work of evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists. Humans seek out news of dramatic, negative events. These experts say that our brains evolved in a hunter-gatherer environment where anything novel or dramatic had to be attended to immediately for survival. So while we no longer defend ourselves against saber-toothed tigers, our brains have not caught up.
Many studies have shown that we care more about the threat of bad things than we do about the prospect of good things. Our negative brain tripwires are far more sensitive than our positive triggers. We tend to get more fearful than happy. And each time we experience fear we turn on our stress hormones.
Another explanation comes from probability theory. In essence, negative and unusual things happen all the time in the world. In his book, Innumeracy, John Allen Paulos explains that if the news is about a small neighborhood of 500 or 5,000, then the possibility that something unusual has happened is low. Unusual things don't happen to individual people very often. That's why very local news like a neighborhood newsletters tends to have less bad news. But in a large city of 1 million, dramatic and negative incidents happen all the time. But most people watch national or worldwide media where news reports come in from large cities at a large scale, so the prevalence of negative stories increase. Add the size of social networking communication, and we expand geometrically bad news. So from evolutionary and neuro-scientific and probability perspectives, we are hard-wired to look for the dramatic and negative, and when we find it, we share it.
Many studies have shown that we care more about the threat of bad things than we do about the prospect of good things. Our negative brain tripwires are far more sensitive than our positive triggers. We tend to get more fearful than happy. And each time we experience fear we turn on our stress hormones.
Another explanation comes from probability theory. In essence, negative and unusual things happen all the time in the world. In his book, Innumeracy, John Allen Paulos explains that if the news is about a small neighborhood of 500 or 5,000, then the possibility that something unusual has happened is low. Unusual things don't happen to individual people very often. That's why very local news like a neighborhood newsletters tends to have less bad news. But in a large city of 1 million, dramatic and negative incidents happen all the time. But most people watch national or worldwide media where news reports come in from large cities at a large scale, so the prevalence of negative stories increase. Add the size of social networking communication, and we expand geometrically bad news. So from evolutionary and neuro-scientific and probability perspectives, we are hard-wired to look for the dramatic and negative, and when we find it, we share it.
WP is like an ecosystem to me, certain actions have a ripple effect. A climate where misogynistic generalisations are made about all women, is not a welcoming climate for women in general. Even if its just a handful of voices being unwelcoming, that can have a powerful effect on women who have had a lifetime supply of being made unwelcome. I guess they just might be sensitive to this sort of mistreatment.
One guy says "this awful thing happened to me... all women are like this, or that" Another guy reponds with more of the same, and all of a sudden the stereotype of the analytical aspie gets discarded, as guys who might normally be rational posit anecdotal evidence as fact.
It is absurd to watch. L&D is like the only sub forum where anecdotal evidence is accepted as 100% valid, and the mob seems for the most part happy to ignore this. (Some of the guys are decent enough to object, but get called white knights or some other BS)
The most insulting thing is that ASD women are included in these broad sweeping generalisations, and any woman that challenges the incorrect assertions about them had better be one hell of a woman because she will be utterly outnumbered. The women like Androbot that take the time to listen and understand become as she describes whipping girls. The rest of us just might not be able to take on that unnecessary hassle in a place we come to, to get away from that kind of BS.
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