For the 6-packs lovers: 6-packs are, in most cases, abnormal

Page 1 of 2 [ 19 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 41
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 32,890
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

06 Nov 2012, 4:23 pm

By 6-packs I mean the popular shape of 6-packs since we all really have them.

And it is surprising that most women are unaware of what is said in the title..

This thread is directed at those who love 6-packs in men, the women of them in specific.

It is becoming a known trend that girls/women (and especially of the younger generations) believe that having-6-packs is a 'norm of sexiness' in men, exactly like the
common belief among boys/men that big boobs are sexier. 6packs are as unnaturally achieved as the perfectly symmetric big boobs, even if the means differ but both are often unnaturally achieved.



Those beliefs are what leading people to go for unnatural procedures in the first place, actresses often undergone boob surgeries because of the high demand (a lot of men find bigger boobs hotter) - same for the six-packs in men.

Simply put, if most men were't that obsessed with big boobs then there wouldn't be as much as boob surgeries today and women with smaller breasts wouldn't feel as 'wrong', and if many (and maybe it's becoming most lately) women aren't that obsessed with the 6-packs then men wouldn't go into unnatural procedures to get them. It is one common gender's obsession that is leading the other gender to get obsessively meet those expectations.

Those increasing obsessions must be stopped or at least should be gradually halted because they lead to unhealthy measures, and since I am male then I feel that It's my duty to help my gender in advocating against the "6-packs obsession", an almost futile battle but well I have nothing to lose.


Here's a good long article that explains why 6-packs are unnaturally achieved: http://www.unique-bodyweight-exercises. ... -pack.html


if you find it too long you can simply read this part:

Quote:
"Finally before you succumb to the six pack myth you should ask yourself if this is even a healthy goal in the first place. The answer for most people is it isn’t because unless you are genetically gifted and have a low body fat level naturally you would be condemning yourself to adhere to a strict diet permanently which is unrealistic and can cause depression, anxiety and weight gain once you quit the diet as most people inevitably do.
It is also true that the majority of people who undertake abs training neglect lower back exercises and this imbalance can cause a flattening of the lumbar curve and or lower back pain "We're even beginning to see hunchback conditions because of excessive abdominal crunches," claims biomechanics and kinesiology specialist Michael Yessis, Ph.D., author of Kinesiology of Exercise (Masters Press, 1992).
So is the “six pack” the big fitness myth of all time?
Yes is the short answer, why? Because the idea that a six pack is a goal that is obtainable by everyone and for an indefinite period is an allusion that is well promoted but impossible. The fact is that most actors, sports stars and body builders who have a fat level percentage of less than 10% which is what great abs demands have it sporadically with a certain goal in mind weather that be to win a body building competition, display a certain look for a film or be able to compete in a certain weight category.
The rest of us should concede that although with the right diet, exercise plan and dedication we might very well be able to achieve the same success for a short period of time, the likely hood of us managing to sustain such a lifestyle is practically non existent; the 95% failure rate of all diets confirms this. It is also true that the more restrictive the diet is the less likely hood there is of adhering to it."



One more thing, I 'v noticed that plenty of girls get upset and bitterly react when I tell them of the unhealthy facts about 6-packs.

"And so what?! I love 6 packs."

"It's one of the international norms of male beauty"

are some of the reactions I've heard.


It is because a strong 'horde belief' resulted by media and magazine brainwashing, it's like religion, if you bring evidences to a Muslim that shows that Mohammad was paedophile he would be be upset and react violently. People never react nicely to things that challenge or contradict their beliefs.



So for the 6-packs lovers on this forum (women and gays alike), it's up to you to keep believing that "6-packs are sexier" and finding them attractive, I am not here to change your preferences, but you should know that your preference won't make it a natural or healthy norm, science is science, and science shows that your preference is about something usually unhealthy.



Last edited by The_Face_of_Boo on 07 Nov 2012, 5:59 am, edited 6 times in total.

blackelk
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 308
Location: New York

06 Nov 2012, 4:40 pm

Nonsense, six packs will just happen through rigorous training and workouts. They aren't intended. You think guys like Floyd Mayweather and Usain Bolt intentionally try to get a six pack look? No, they are the results of training that makes an elite athlete. Which is why so many elite athletes have them.

You can't compare them to breasts.


_________________
"Meaninglessness inhibits fullness of life and is therefore equivalent to illness. Meaning makes a great many things endurable ? perhaps everything.?


Last edited by blackelk on 06 Nov 2012, 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 41
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 32,890
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

06 Nov 2012, 4:42 pm

First denial- yes, many males would deny this too.



Last edited by The_Face_of_Boo on 06 Nov 2012, 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

blackelk
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 308
Location: New York

06 Nov 2012, 4:43 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
First denier - yes, many males would deny this too.


Great rebuttal.

Can you explain to me why nearly all elite athletes have them? Michael Phelps, Bolt, Mayweather, Ashton Eaton, etc.. just for cosmetics right? If you work out like they do, you will get a six pack without even trying to get a six pack.


_________________
"Meaninglessness inhibits fullness of life and is therefore equivalent to illness. Meaning makes a great many things endurable ? perhaps everything.?


Last edited by blackelk on 06 Nov 2012, 4:48 pm, edited 2 times in total.

The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 41
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 32,890
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

06 Nov 2012, 4:46 pm

blackelk wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
First denier - yes, many males would deny this too.


Great rebuttal.


You clearly didn't read the article. Anyway, there's no point to debate you on this further.



IrishTusk
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 3 Sep 2009
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 239
Location: Leven, Fife

06 Nov 2012, 4:46 pm

Quote:
It is because a strong 'horde belief' resulted by media and magazine brainwashing, it's like religion, if you bring evidences to a Muslim that shows that Mohammad was paedophile he would be be upset and react violently. People never react nicely to things that


Image


_________________
Your Aspie score: 56 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 144 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical


Steven_Tyler77
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 19 Apr 2012
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Posts: 209
Location: Romania

06 Nov 2012, 5:59 pm

I guess some men get six-packs in natural ways, without intending to. Just as some women naturally have big breasts. I think the article is condemning people's tendency to obey to beauty norms without any regard to their well-being, not that six-packs or big breasts are bad in themselves.

However, OP, if you start by posting that people never react nicely to posts like yours, you are unwillingly attracting negativity towards your thread. Not a smart move, because people might subconsciously feel as if they were targeted...


_________________
Probably 75% Aspie, 25% NT... and 100% ADHD :)

Aspie-quiz results:
Aspie score: 138 of 200 / NT score: 78 of 200 => Very likely an Aspie.


The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 41
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 32,890
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

06 Nov 2012, 6:03 pm

Steven_Tyler77 wrote:
.

However, OP, if you start by posting that people never react nicely to posts like yours, you are unwillingly attracting negativity towards your thread. Not a smart move, because people might subconsciously feel as if they were targeted...



I don't really care what I am unwillingly attracting here or whether you feel targeted or not, the title is crysal clear.



Venger
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,519

06 Nov 2012, 7:25 pm

blackelk wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
First denier - yes, many males would deny this too.


Great rebuttal.

Can you explain to me why nearly all elite athletes have them? Michael Phelps, Bolt, Mayweather, Ashton Eaton, etc.. just for cosmetics right? If you work out like they do, you will get a six pack without even trying to get a six pack.


lol, Ashton Eaton lives here Bend, OR where I live. Got to meet him recently at an autograph signing. It was weird to meet the world's greatest athlete in person.

Maybe a six-pack is weird because you can "see the persons insides" in a way. They also don't mean the person has a lot of upper body strength necessarily. Just low body-fat. A situation where a girl who doesn't know a guy very well would see him shirtless is fairly rare too except at a beach/pool for example. A girl you meet out in public somewhere probably isn't going to see the six-pack in the first place.



Misslizard
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Jun 2012
Age: 59
Gender: Female
Posts: 20,471
Location: Aux Arcs

06 Nov 2012, 10:53 pm

Damm,I thought this would be about beer.
Of course men that drink a bit develop twelve packs. :lol:



yellowtamarin
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Sep 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,763
Location: Australia

07 Nov 2012, 12:59 am

But if they are "abnormal", doesn't that mean they are normal for the abs? I think you meant to say they are ababnormal.

On a more serious note, I agree that 6-packs are not realistic for every man. A better goal would be to look fit and healthy in accordance with your individual body type. I don't usually find the really well-defined abs a turn-on, anyway.



Last edited by yellowtamarin on 07 Nov 2012, 3:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

blue_bean
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 10,617
Location: Behind the wheel

07 Nov 2012, 3:10 am

Why is this thread in here?



blackelk
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 308
Location: New York

07 Nov 2012, 3:14 am

blue_bean wrote:
Why is this thread in here?


Cause he's jealous of guys in good shape and wants women to prefer slobs. Btw, girls with abs are hot.


_________________
"Meaninglessness inhibits fullness of life and is therefore equivalent to illness. Meaning makes a great many things endurable ? perhaps everything.?


Who_Am_I
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,632
Location: Australia

07 Nov 2012, 3:32 am

blackelk wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
Why is this thread in here?


Cause he's jealous of guys in good shape and wants women to prefer slobs. Btw, girls with abs are hot.


Because there's only 2 choices for guys: 6 pack, or total slobhood.


_________________
Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I


blue_bean
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 10,617
Location: Behind the wheel

07 Nov 2012, 3:34 am

Last I recall Boo actually does go to the gym.

It's like he chose this location to post it just to make the inflamatory intent a bit more blatant. If he posted this in Adult or L&D I wouldn't care.



Venger
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,519

07 Nov 2012, 4:19 am

blue_bean wrote:
Last I recall Boo actually does go to the gym.

It's like he chose this location to post it just to make the inflamatory intent a bit more blatant. If he posted this in Adult or L&D I wouldn't care.


Actually it should be in the "Health, Fitness, and Sports" board. By the way I personally don't care about having a 6-pack myself as long as I can bench press and military press a lot of weight.