Page 1 of 3 [ 34 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Twitch
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 6 Nov 2005
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 355
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan

27 Nov 2005, 10:22 am

I've run across some of us who'd be willing to change, to be like them and I understand the reasoning but it's not a place I'd ever be.

The reasoning comes from how the world sees us and treats us. These people are simply tired of the abuse. Tired of the mourning that happens everytime one of our kind is born, as if we were all living stillbirths. I'm tired of these things myself. But instead of turning that rage against myself I turn it against the world, hopefully in a constructive manner. All I'm able to do right now is to make my voice heard, one small voice amongst the masses. When one of our kind is born I dance rather than mourn. This is one more chance for us to be seen as something other than a plague. Because we aren't, we are a gift, a different way of being.

I understand why you feel the way you do all that would be willing to change. I understand the messages that you recieve from both inside and out. I recieve them myself but I choose not to let that stop me.

There is a topic about being caught stimming on here. Personally I don't care if I am caught. I don't care what 'they' see or what they might think. They do things that I don't understand all the time.



I am what I am and I'd not change.


_________________
"If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see."

"In what concerns you much, do not think that you have companions: know that you are alone in the world."

Henry David Thoreau


BeeBee
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Mar 2005
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,257
Location: Upper Midwest, USA

27 Nov 2005, 11:01 am

Bueatifully written, Twitch. Very articulate and thought provoking.

Each birth is a reason to dance with joy. Each person is meant to be and to be exactly how they are. I have never ever been sad my son was born with multiple "issues" only that the world is too narrow to accept him as he is.

And the world is slowly changing. And we are slowly changing. Each of us needs to find the right place, the place we are confortable in and contribute from.

Thank you for the post, Twitch.

BeeBee



Twitch
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 6 Nov 2005
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 355
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan

27 Nov 2005, 3:04 pm

Thank you. I spent a lot of time thinking on the subject because I see so many people brought down by what they are, and it isn't what they are that's really doing it, but reactions to what they are.

And I agree that every birth is a reason to dance with joy. Everytime I look at a baby I see potential. I see someone who hasn't lived before. And that's what we all are. We are all different. It is time that we accepted differences in one another and let each have his place, in peace and in security. We've come a long way, we must remember that, and we still have a long way to go.

I commend parents like you. Parents who value their children as individuals. Thank you for being.


_________________
"If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see."

"In what concerns you much, do not think that you have companions: know that you are alone in the world."

Henry David Thoreau


Larval
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,037

27 Nov 2005, 3:25 pm

I'm not sure if I'm AS or NT - but whichever one I turn out to be, I'll be happy with it.

It's a part of who I am after all.



nirrti_rachelle
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Age: 50
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,302
Location: The Dirty South

27 Nov 2005, 5:21 pm

I'm happy that people are finally evolving in the way they treat those who are born different. I think this society still has a looong way to go, however, especially in the way mentally ill people and those with developmental challenges are treated.

Twitch, is it my imagination or did you change your avatar from a sad to a happy face? :)


_________________
"There is difference and there is power. And who holds the power decides the meaning of the difference." --June Jordan


Twitch
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 6 Nov 2005
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 355
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan

27 Nov 2005, 6:46 pm

Very true. Dealing with both I can see that.

I did change my avatar :) It doesnt really reflect my face but hell I feel a little better. Thats the way of my moods up and down and well off. Off has to be the most pleasent right now.


_________________
"If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see."

"In what concerns you much, do not think that you have companions: know that you are alone in the world."

Henry David Thoreau


hale_bopp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,054
Location: None

27 Nov 2005, 8:01 pm

Some people want to change because of side effects such as depression, OCD and otehr things for instance.



Twitch
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 6 Nov 2005
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 355
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan

27 Nov 2005, 8:57 pm

I can see that. I think though of the possibility that part of the depression is due to our human condition. It's not only prevalent in our population but in western society. Something is wrong with people and I can see it but frankly I didn't want to say it.


_________________
"If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see."

"In what concerns you much, do not think that you have companions: know that you are alone in the world."

Henry David Thoreau


KenM
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Age: 57
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,491
Location: Mass. USA

27 Nov 2005, 9:02 pm

I don't want to be NT, why put up with all the social BS and try to keep up with everyone else just to fit in. I'm happy being who I am, thank you very much.



Twitch
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 6 Nov 2005
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 355
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan

27 Nov 2005, 9:05 pm

I very much agree with you. It gives me more time for important things, like thinking for instance.

KenM wrote:
I don't want to be NT, why put up with all the social BS and try to keep up with everyone else just to fit in. I'm happy being who I am, thank you very much.


_________________
"If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see."

"In what concerns you much, do not think that you have companions: know that you are alone in the world."

Henry David Thoreau


Sophist
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,332
Location: Louisville, KY

27 Nov 2005, 11:18 pm

I love who and what I am. I wouldn't change me if that were even possible.

Except for maybe a little better powers of concentration and attention span. :)

EDIT: And I could do without the Irritable Bowel Syndrome and limited diet.


_________________
My Science blog, Science Over a Cuppa - http://insolemexumbra.wordpress.com/

My partner's autism science blog, Cortical Chauvinism - http://corticalchauvinism.wordpress.com/


Litguy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 649
Location: New Jersey

27 Nov 2005, 11:47 pm

Very good, Twitch. I'm very happy with who I am (and who my children are). I just wish the world was more open to them (including some extended family members).



Kiss_my_AS
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 14 Nov 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 261

29 Nov 2005, 6:15 am

Here's another member of the 'not wanting to be NT'-club. At least if that would mean that I would be another person.



GalileoAce
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 May 2005
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,158
Location: Australia

29 Nov 2005, 8:26 am

You know, I've never actually met an 'NT' in the strictest sense... Most, if not all, the people I know have some sort of Neurological difference...

That being said, I would not want to be like them either, I like and enjoy who I am. Though I have adapted some of my behaviours so I can function within society. I believe that adaption and learning is a key to being within society, not wishing to be like them, but rather, be yourself.

GA



Prometheus
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 May 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,506
Location: Through the plexiglass

29 Nov 2005, 8:39 am

I think a rather small percentage of people are "normal" in the sense that they fulfil the stereotypical NT standards. . . .about 20% or so.

Life would be quite boring if everyone was literally the same, but this sameness is more superficial than anything else, IMO.


_________________
All your bass are belong to us.


Scrapheap
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Nov 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,685
Location: Animal Farm

29 Nov 2005, 3:58 pm

I have to play devil's advocate here. I'd much rather be NT instead of AS. The benefits outweigh the costs. :evil: :evil: :evil:


_________________
All hail Comrade Napoleon!! !