proud aspies really anger me

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I'm sick about reading about all of these aspies who are too proud of being such socially despised and ridiculed people and who dont want a cure. I will tell you that the only reason you think in a way that "AS needs no cure" is because youve already maintained yourself in such a way that despite all the sh*t that we aspies have to go through, youve settled with what youve got because you know you have no chance of living a normal life.

I am an Aspie. I am not proud of being treated like crap by the dominating NTs just for getting by. I am not proud of being constantly ridiculed everyday for my lack of facial expressions or for my inability to get a joke or for my inability just to freaking communicate. I am not proud of the fact that I have to be a loner because I dont know how to maintain normal social relationships with people. And...gasp...I think there should be a cure.

I am not thinking of myself when I say this. I am thinking about future generations. I think you proud aspies are only thinking of yourselves when you say that there should be no cure. But seriously, why should future generations have to suffer? Why should future Aspies suffer because we suffered? Everyone deserves a chance to be socially accepted by society. Everyone deserves to have the ability to make friends like any normal person should. People who are struggling with having a different perspective and a means of social communication should not have to be treated like sh*t just because most of you are too proud of yourselves to realize we are suffering more than you want to admit.

This has been something I have been wanting to vent for a long time because I can not possibly believe that you all are so proud of not being normal. We're being ridiculed and hated just for being what we are and if you ask me being unintentionally hated and mistreated by everyone is not something to be proud of.

You must hate me more than any one else you have ever met in your life.

I can understand how you feel after being treated that way. I was treated that way too. I am proud because I know what I can do and what interectual advantages I have. And what potential alot of aspies have to achieve stuff they want to and be happy. Its just a problem that the way the system works at the moment alot of aspies are broken and there egos shattered like im guessing yours is. Yes aspergers has disadvantages but it also has great advantages.

Also how do you think we proud aspies could get through life if we always thought hey Im not special im just ret*d. Honestly if I took that attitude i think I would crack in not much time at all. I have my goals that I want to do in life and im going to do them. Acheiving my goals will make me happy and even more proud .

I think aspergers adds a difference to the world that the world would be better off understanding. I like the differen't thoughts I can think in my head and I love the things that I feel interesting. I do hate how I don't do as well socially as I would like to but hey even alot of NTs have massive problems with some things too.

So even though my social skills may suck im not going to let it drag me down in life and let my only life spent thinking if only I don't think like I do.

I am smug about having AS, for all its advantages.
I am not proud about it. I hide my AS as much as possible around others just to prevent friction. I am not proud that I feel I can't be myself with others. I am not proud that I cannot hold down a regular job and participate in the world as others do. I am trapped in my apartment, day after day. I am not proud. I will not have children. This madness stops with this generation, I say.

Sounds like i'm a lot happier being a proud aspie than you are being a victim.

There may just be a small vocal minority of people that are proud like that. Some of that arrogance could be attributed to a defense mechanism: "I like the way I am therefore I am happy" Otherwise the situation is just depressing because there is no cure.

There are definite advantages to having this but it seems to almost always be offset by deficiencies in other areas.

I have extremely complex feelings on this and I could probably fill many pages on this subject. As human knowledge and technical ability in the general population rises will there be more people with AS and similar? Are we an evolutionary stepping stone to something else? At this point in time humans are social creatures. I feel it now. I hate being around people and being social but I sometimes feel lonely at the same time. Are we in a tough intermediary step or should we be eliminated “survival of the fittest” style due to lack of social skills? I don't know what is more important to the survival of the human race. Many religious people (which I am at least slightly part of) would say the social side is more important. I honestly don't know.

I'm not really PROUD but more of I don't give a crap about what people think of me (On the internet that is) So I admit I got the problem on the internet when trying to explain the way I am. Basically, its the honest truth. So I let it out.

Also, being "socially deprived" isn't good but it isn't bad either. I've got all depressed about being unable to socialize but then I took a look at people who socialize and found them to be immature and irritating.

I don't mention "Aspergers" in public/person at all.

I think people should be at least a LITTLE proud of it because hey, its who you are and there really isn't a cure so its there. Get used to it.

Sitting around being depressed about it happens to me at times. I feel like a loser, normally when I talk with NTs and watch them succeed at things I'll probably never be able to do because of "Aspergers Syndrome" but I can make that quickly go away by thinking about something different, usually one of my obsessions caused by Aspergers. Works like a charm.

Other times I think "Hey would you really want to give this up and become one of the average people doing the same crap?" what I mean by giving up is the stuff I am obsessed with.

I think it's one of life's universal truths is that accepting yourself as who are is important to achieving some degree of peace. Attitude or mindset are critical parts of how happily (?) we go through life (battling or accepting?) and choices that everyone has to make for themselves. For me, and I think for my bf, the idea of continuing to learn and grow is important.

It seems to me that the "cure" or at least a good part of it, is going to come from awareness made to the general public, and learning the essential cues about communicating with NTs....and teaching them yours.

I say "happily (?)" because my bf has expressed that he doesn't like the word ... doesn't really understand the concept or importance. Interesting.

Is there such thing as AS support groups?

As far as being proud ... I'd be pretty impressed if I was in this company of people with AS traits.

Thomas Edison
Albert Einstein
Thomas Jefferson
Beethoven
Alexander Graham Bell
Bob Dylan
Neil Young

just to name a few.

I am not proud......content, maybe, but not neccessarily proud. And I do not let AS be an excuse for being miserable; we are all responsible for our own happiness.

I for one would like to know where all these successful NAs are running around and stealing all our jobs. *notices neighbor downstairs who's a security guard and works late hours* *notices a couple other neighbors who don't even seem to have jobs* I think NAs have different problems than we tend to, but there's a lot of them who have problems, different, but problems all the same.

I am proud of what I am, whether that's an Aspie or any other round of descriptors I could fall under. I enjoy myself and the main reason I do so is probably because I have been very lucky and didn't get bullied excessively. Plus, I was also born an optimist.

And I can tell you quite plainly, I wouldn't change much about me and that's the truth. At least nothing that I can't work on myself. Tweeking more and more. I'm quite happy with the blueprints I was born with and those qualities I dislike in myself, I will work and have worked on improving myself.

I'm sorry, toonaspie, that you've had it hard enough in life to want a cure. I don't think you're alone in that thought. But I don't share that view at all.

What is the cure for being black?

I think what you are calling pride comes from just realizing that there are other people like yourself . . . I know that has been the case for me - just realizing that I'm not the only one and that I'm not an evil person because my brain doesn't work the same as everyone else's . . .
At this point I wouldn't want a cure because I wouldn't want to be forced to waste my time on all that stupid social stuff other people do - how would I have time to watch movies and crochet/knit and garden if I did that?!

I dont get how can you guys be proud of an accident of birth. Its not like you invented AS, or meticulously banged your head against the wall until the neural damage was just right.

To paraphrase Aliester Crowley; pride is the only truly negative emotion - it halts progress, there is no way forward, nothing can be learned from it.

As a reward mechanism for personal achievements, then it serves a useful function. Otherwise, what seperates autistic-pride from white/black-pride or nationalism?