what dont you like about NTs?

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I know, right?! ! I was surprised by it when I came here too. Almost everyone I know (family included) is NT. My thinking was that we (Aspies) are rare enough that other members must have a similar NT family/friend(s) situation. Coupled with the fact that we (as a group) are more prone to being persecuted and bullied, I would have expected that we would be MORE tolerant than the general populace.

I still believe that this is the case for most of us; some have had very bad experiences at the hands of bad people. I wish there was a button I could push to make those experiences go away.

There are some really great NT people who are here on this site. Often we trade tips -- they ask how they can understand or get along with their spouse/boyfriend/kids and we ask them what NTs mean when they say or do this or that. Their presence here is a great benefit. I felt badly when one mentioned the possibility of leaving due to the negative remarks. I would much rather that we all get along in peace We need each other.

Building bridges, not walls. It's wonderful when that happens.

Me too, it is amazing that it takes only one person to spread the word and start to build a bridge.
This is the most positive thread I have ever bumped into this week, and the week has only just begun.

I'm so glad to have a neighbour and a friend like Mayokka. This is the person who I definitely know and trust.

This site after all is a support site and sharing experiences is what this place is suppose to be about.

Bigotry, ignorance and incomptence. Their conformist herd mentality and fear of diffrence or diversity.

I like NTs. I just wished more of them we're accepting of me.

NT is a misused term. Those without a neurological impairment, I have no problem with them, all twenty two of them.

Now your run of the mill hairless ground ape is no way NT, and most of the complaints I have heard can be placed on their doorstep. Depression, drink, drugs, have taken their toll, and autistics seem to miss what is the problem behind their problem with people who pick on those who cannot just kick them down a flight of stairs.

NTs are so bad, I just can't get along with people who rob durgstores for money and drugs. There is such a thing as looking at the big picture when you should be watching your back.

As for working and hot sex, first figure out what you can do that pays, and not robbing drugstores. It is never easy, or someone else would be doing it. Old jobs are always vanishing and new ones forming, what will work in a year or two, gives time to prepare for it. All I can say is follow your talents.

Look at people, they eat sleep and live around a job, it is full time, and overtime. It takes giving your all to make it. Be it flipping burgers or a high paying job, it will take all your time, for years.

As for starting a business, you should hope the first three fail, or you could get stuck doing it wrong forever. I consider a good business recovering what I put in, a great business, not paying to work there, a fantastic business one that pays me, and I am working on one that runs without me and piles up money.

I avoid the hairless ground ape problem by working two shifts. One is to live on, one to feed my machine collection for the next project. I buy them, fix them and they pay me back. Then we buy something else. You have to have education, social connection, or, the means of production and a knowledge of the market.

A small example would be the guy who cuts my grass, he has a thousand in machines, and makes about $70 an hour. Somewhere he also got a truck and trailer. He is booked, and makes $500 a day. He has less social skills than I do, is more autistic, and has a low normal IQ.

I know the North African guy at the all night service station. He makes $8 an hour, works 12 hour shifts, seven days a week, to make $700 a week. He has more social skills than I do.

Some very social people work at the chicken place I go to, they make $5.75 an hour for 40 hours. $160 a week take home.

Making money does not have to do with social skills, but with taking care of number one.

There is always room at the top, for new needs arrive, old ways fail, and leave an unsupplied market, and few notice, will produce for that market, and reap all the rewards. I sell several small things that I am the World's only supplier.

I love hairless ground apes, few personally, but all the ones who send me money, and all the ones who do not notice me at all. My thoughts run to what can I do to help a few thousand find what they want in life, where I make 500-1,000%, for making them happy.

My relationship with the world is limited, I am supplier, or valued customer, that overcomes who I am. They deal with my function.

This was always the hard part for me in person, but with scripted roles for both of us it works well.

When I was younger I fixed machines. I was strange, but none of my work came back. I focused on getting the job done right. My applied talents and focus overcame everything else. I favored working nights and weekends. I made myself the best person for the job.

Others have made a lot more money than I did, I have no idea how their social skills are so valueable. With the median income at $53,000, I do not think they are worth it. Others are starting to share that view. I wondered how shopkeepers managed to stay in business. Now it shows they did it by sinking ever deeper in debt.

Employment and retail seem grim, but there are all those people still spending for what they want.

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times."

OK.. that is hilarious.
I think everyone smells funny at least sometimes.

all the cumulative criticism

"why are you so sensitive/argumentative/weird/crazy/shy/quiet/different/contrary/anal retentive, etc, etc, etc, years and years of it

like ani difranco says, 'i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, if there is something wrong, then maybe, there's something wrong with YOU

I would never knowingly laugh at the smell of a neurotypical, unless they smelled of nitrous oxide.

Seriously, I don't have any problem with NTs as such, though no doubt a lot of my problems are down to their not always being Aspie-aware.....on the other hand we probably take a lot of figuring out and if they haven't been told about us then it's natural that they'll just think we're weird. Minority groups are not usually respected until they command respect.

Come to think of it, I don't think I could diagnose an NT reliably. I find it hard to take such a huge interest in anybody else's behaviour - of course if I know somebody well then I've probably absorbed enough about them to work it out, but somehow my brain balks at the task

I haven't even diagnosed my first Aspie yet......though I've noticed one or two who seem to be likely candidates. I tend to see individuals as just being who they are and I don't really like to label them unless the cap fits perfectly, which of course it never does.

I can get pretty vitreolic about mainstream society but that's a bit different. I'm sure neurotypicality is no bar to having the kind of alternative views and practices that I see as a cut above mainstream.

Nothing. NTs are really not much different than us, let's just say there's a bad egg in every nest.

Are NTs automatically all a**holes because they have natural social skills and have more friends? You're gonna meet some a**holes but then you're gonna meet some really nice NTs too. Ones that are accepting. Ones that will help you out with your social issues.

Also remember that Aspies aren't the only ones with social problems. Lots of NT's do too.

Could the government sort something out about social things?
They are obviously not working.
Perhaps, some day in the future, people will have somehow all evolved into "Inventor"s and work will get done and chatter will be muffed.
Unless, of course, you are some kind of psychiatrist.
Then, you are quite excused, hmm yes I do say, quite excused.

I like most of them to varying degrees too. The ones I don't that I meet in real life are probably my problem not theirs.

The only thing I didn't like was a captive vulture in a zoo I used to take he kids to. It used to look at me "real funny" . It actually made me feel physically nauseous. There are few historic and possibly living influential NTs who would also make me feel like this if I ever met them , and they do have proven track records in doing bad stuff.

Most don't, and its about circumstance, personality and potentiality.

Ursa - yes to a degree the government could , but it's up to us to tell them what we want. It is a common misconception democratic governments do constructive things for special groups of non threatening people without being consulted first. They need us to come forward and help and inform and direct them, if you want to go down the road of social, and political inclusion.

I completely agree with you there.

They confuse obsessions with drugs.