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11 Mar 2010, 8:55 am

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In reality, simplified sentence structure facilitates understanding. Attempting to nail down your intended message with extraneous words creates discordancy, muddling your missive.
Indeed... unnecessary verbiage can cause a great deal of frustration and confusion, whereas a modicum of sense and a minimum of words can facilitate attempts at communication to a degree that is most pleasing to the one speaking, and the one hearing, the sentence.
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11 Mar 2010, 9:21 am

mgran wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
In reality, simplified sentence structure facilitates understanding. Attempting to nail down your intended message with extraneous words creates discordancy, muddling your missive.
Indeed... unnecessary verbiage can cause a great deal of frustration and confusion, whereas a modicum of sense and a minimum of words can facilitate attempts at communication to a degree that is most pleasing to the one speaking, and the one hearing, the sentence.
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Eschew obfuscation mgran! :P


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11 Mar 2010, 9:49 am

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Mine are due to my poor comunication skills. I have to write a lot to get my message across and just like a verbal conversation, i decide what i've said isn't working or isn't quite right so i type more, then i think through all the possible meanings people will take from it and write more to clarify, then i think of all the possible come backs people are going to make and try to answer them all or cut them off to keep the replies useful, by then it's a huge bloated post.


In reality, simplified sentence structure facilitates understanding. Attempting to nail down your intended message with extraneous words creates discordancy, muddling your missive.

If brevity is the soul of wit, then Thoreau said "simplify, simplify" for a reason.

Amazingly Jingo, If you simplify, your communication skills improve. It worked for me.


Oh i know, but the option isn't say it well with lots of words or well with a few, it's say it badly with a few or try to do it better with a lot.

If i could find the words to say what i wanted, life would be so much easier. The additons are due to initial failure



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11 Mar 2010, 10:57 am

I have quite an ambivalent handling of writing. I really would like to write a lot, explain everything the way it's in my mind, go into details, relate and connect the details and so on. It is quite impossible in verbal communication to treat things as accurate as in writing. But when I start to write, I often fall into despair about how many meanings even a single word can have if you start pondering on it. Then I begin to wonder how it's possible at all to write things and express your intention so that anyone gets what you wanted to say. This whole process of writig then seems so complicated to me and in the result I feel unable to cope with writing. So I don't write much.



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11 Mar 2010, 12:07 pm

I've got the compulsion to "inform" people, in spades. :(

I do a lot of writing because I'm much stronger at writing than I am with the spoken word.....with speaking, I'm like a "studio band" who prefer the studio to performing live because they can't get the control over the result that they can get in a studio. (e.g. the Beatles from 1966-1970).

If you mean do we write a lot in the sense of making long posts, I try not to........if my post starts getting long, I look for superfluous bits to delete, and mostly I seem to be able to whittle my offerings down to something that's reasonably easy to swallow. The delete key is a good friend of mine. Occasionally I find I can't do that without losing something that I think is important, so I let it through and just hope I don't start doing it a lot.



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11 Mar 2010, 1:20 pm

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11 Mar 2010, 2:03 pm

I have a theory that it has to do with two different things. One of them has to do with how many folks on the Autism/Asperger spetrum think visually. In order to translate that into conversation we need to describe (sometimes endlessly) about something. I have a friend with AS that is very verbose when it comes to this. Once when he gave directions it wasn't simple directions, but he also described landmarks and even traffic lights along the way.

Another theory has to do with our inability to understand emotions and body language. Half of most conversation involve things such as body language, voice intonation, imagining the scenario, etc. Many of us unfortunately do not pick up on these things, so we put the non-verbal aspects of communications into words.



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11 Mar 2010, 2:21 pm

I either write a lot and am unable to condense it or I write a little and am unable to expand it. When I write a lot it seems to have to do with Ent-like tendencies and hypergraphia (a compulsion to write/create art/etc. that sometimes goes with temporal lobe epilepsy). Unfortunately right now I am in short writing mode and therefore can't explain myself well. Figures.


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11 Mar 2010, 2:47 pm

If its about replies then its to clarify or to add to a discussion.

If its to start a conversation or an article, its because starting such topics are hard in person as there are so many things to think about before people tend to take you seriously.
-- (I say 'people' but that just me stereotyping. I'm thinking of how most students in my college canteen tend to react)

I mean body language, tone of voice.. and if the person your talking to is even interested.
If a user online reads your article.. then obviously he has to of put some effort to read it. (Maybe not the best thing, but atleast your heard in some sense.)


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11 Mar 2010, 3:00 pm

I've wonder how many of these long posts are actually read by anyone else? I think many of us like giving our opinions without necessarily caring what anyone else has to say about a subject. You might be an Aspie if ...

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11 Mar 2010, 3:23 pm

I think that for my own self I end up being too verbose when writing because I can't figure out priorities of what's necessary versus not so necessary; plus, I think a lot of it stems from realizing over a lifetime how little others understand me. I'm actually getting kind of sick of my own excessive writing.

I don't even want to begin commenting on deleting other than to say it can become a horrible habit to break!


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11 Mar 2010, 3:28 pm

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Mine are due to my poor comunication skills. I have to write a lot to get my message across and just like a verbal conversation, i decide what i've said isn't working or isn't quite right so i type more, then i think through all the possible meanings people will take from it and write more to clarify, then i think of all the possible come backs people are going to make and try to answer them all or cut them off to keep the replies useful, by then it's a huge bloated post.


It's a HUGE problem when you can think through all the possible meanings people will take from what you say and then they need things clarified for them. I don't think most people realize how many different ways what you say can be taken. My guess is that Aspies are very good at that and that could be a big reason we tend to bloat our posts more than NTs do.


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11 Mar 2010, 4:10 pm

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The posts here seem to be very detailed and I learn such random stuff sometimes.
My mum says she won't read my blog posts because they're too long.
I enjoy reading life stories sometimes. Other times I cannot concentrate on posts and then I see their length and just give up.


I have read your blog- it isn't that bad as far as length. I like reading it, btw. I used to write some fantasy short stories and I posted them online. I gave my sister the link and she claimed it wasn't her style (she likes romance stuff), so she didn't read them. I was a little miffed because she is my sister- at least support me, right? They were not that long, either! But that is another story, and I digress. I can be verbose. See? That is all I had to say but look how long it took me.



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11 Mar 2010, 5:25 pm

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I either write a lot and am unable to condense it or I write a little and am unable to expand it. When I write a lot it seems to have to do with Ent-like tendencies and hypergraphia (a compulsion to write/create art/etc. that sometimes goes with temporal lobe epilepsy). Unfortunately right now I am in short writing mode and therefore can't explain myself well. Figures.


No you were perfectly succinct.

I have long writing mode days too. No matter what I can't trim it down. Those days I just shut up. :)


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11 Mar 2010, 6:10 pm

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Verbosity is probably one of the more common traits of Asperger's Syndrome. Monologues!



I wonder if we are the only ones for whom monologue is a verb and a noun both. I do this...l have a hard time editing, everything seems very important



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11 Mar 2010, 6:20 pm

I can have a very hard time getting my thoughts onto paper. It is like there is a wall there. However, once I get going I can ramble on quite a bit.