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30 Jul 2010, 3:02 am

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I hope she gets well soon. you take care of yourself too. cause i know this must be pretty hard on you. get plenty of sleep, and take care of your self. so when you go to see her you can be as much help as possible.

good luck hope you see her soon!
Yeah, managing this support thread has turned me into an insomniac. I just haven't been able to sleep very well, knowing that i could do much more on here than in my bed :( . I end up tossing and turning, then just getting hungry and getting up again. My body feels exhausted, but my mind won't let me sleep...
Before this happened, i'd recently quit smoking. But lately i've resorted to smoking again just to help kill the stress.
and lately my appetite's been sorta all over the place. Like for the longest time i won't notice being hungry, then suddenly i'll be ravenous :?

Although since the surgery, i've at least felt some relief at knowing that some measure against the cancer has finally been taken, so maybe i'll be able to sleep tonight...


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30 Jul 2010, 3:47 am

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Yeah, managing this support thread has turned me into an insomniac. I just haven't been able to sleep very well, knowing that i could do much more on here than in my bed :( . I end up tossing and turning, then just getting hungry and getting up again. My body feels exhausted, but my mind won't let me sleep...
Before this happened, i'd recently quit smoking. But lately i've resorted to smoking again just to help kill the stress.
and lately my appetite's been sorta all over the place. Like for the longest time i won't notice being hungry, then suddenly i'll be ravenous :?


That's how I am most nights...

Really you should remember to take care of yourself too. Try to get some sleep.


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30 Jul 2010, 4:01 am

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weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.

Actually just 18 days, from first visit to doctor until yesterday's surgery, not even three weeks.

Is that possible, even in the USA?
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Why would it not be possible? If time is of the essence they try to get surgery going quickly. Patients go into the ER all the time complaining about chest pain and have tests done that day, and surgery scheduled the next day, spend a week or so in ICU, and then are released.

Now granted cancer can be harder to pin down than a heart problem, but 18 days is more than enough time to run tests and get surgery scheduled.


Chest pain is the number priority in ER.

A tip for everyone, if you call an ambulence and want it to arrive IMMEDIATELY, just say you're having severe chest pain and you think you're having a heart attack or say that you have a history of heart attack.

Things are only done fast if you have severe chest pain, because it can be heart attack, and heart attack kills you much sooner than any other conditions.

Oh, the other thing that will be done fast is high fever.


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30 Jul 2010, 4:02 am

not sure who on here is a member of the australian band, "Origin of Janken", but thanks for the donation, whoever you are :)


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30 Jul 2010, 6:11 am

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weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.
18 days in fact, from first visit to doctor until yesterday's surgery. Is that possible, even in the USA?
Why would it not be possible? If time is of the essence they try to get surgery going quickly. Patients go into the ER all the time complaining about chest pain and have tests done that day, and surgery scheduled the next day, spend a week or so in ICU, and then are released. Cancer can be harder to pin down than a heart problem, but 18 days is more than enough time to run tests and get surgery scheduled.

I have been trying to work out why I have got so involved in this thread/issue, and I think that it is this aspect of it ... the continual shifting of "reality", the constant uncertainty about what is real/true and what isn't, the effort to make sense of it, to decide definitively, one way or the other, what is true/real, swinging from one perspective/belief to another, ... because it *is* possible, as you say, however unlikely in general, that this really is what has been happening ... and yet there is, so far, no final answer.

I think it reminds me of the central question/conundrum that keeps cropping up in Christopher Nolan's films, especially "Memento", "The Prestige", and, by the sound of it, "Inception"; ie. what is "the truth"? What is "real"? Whose version of events/which model of reality is correct? In "Memento" there's a scene where the protagonist, ( the hero/anti-hero with no short-term memory ) finds himself running in a carpark and sees another man running too, on the other side of a line of vans, and says "Okay, so what am I doing? I'm chasing this guy" ... only for the other guy to fire a pistol at him, so that he says, "Nope, he's chasing me!" ! !! :lol And the way that Angier, one of the two stage magicians in "The Prestige", is absolutely convinced that Borden, ( the other one ), cannot be using a mere double for one of his acts, and spends a fortune trying to work out his secret, etc. ... What *is* "real" here?

So, I've paid my $25 in order to have the "right" to watch the "show"/story play out, to "enjoy" the ( for the moment ) impenetrable puzzle, ( and also so as to not feel bad if her tale turns out to be true ... ). But it's almost as exhausting as watching "Memento" was the first time ... I wonder whether it will have as exhilarating and liberating and jubilatory an ending! :lol Or whether it will be more like "The Prestige" ...
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30 Jul 2010, 6:14 am

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weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.
18 days in fact, from first visit to doctor until yesterday's surgery. Is that possible, even in the USA?
Why would it not be possible? If time is of the essence they try to get surgery going quickly. Patients go into the ER all the time complaining about chest pain and have tests done that day, and surgery scheduled the next day, spend a week or so in ICU, and then are released. Cancer can be harder to pin down than a heart problem, but 18 days is more than enough time to run tests and get surgery scheduled.

I have been trying to work out why I have got so involved in this thread/issue, and I think that it is this aspect of it ... the continual shifting of "reality", the constant uncertainty about what is real/true and what isn't, the effort to make sense of it, to decide definitively, one way or the other, what is true/real, swinging from one perspective/belief to another, ... because it *is* possible, as you say, however unlikely in general, that this really is what has been happening ... and yet there is, so far, no final answer.

I think it reminds me of the central question/conundrum that keeps cropping up in Christopher Nolan's films, especially "Memento", "The Prestige", and, by the sound of it, "Inception"; ie. what is "the truth"? What is "real"? Whose version of events is right? In "Memento" there's a scene where the protagonist, ( the hero/anti-hero with no short-term memory ) finds himself running in a carpark and sees another man running too, on the other side of a line of vans, and says "So, I'm chasing this guy" only for the other guy to fire a pistol at him ... " so that he says "Er, no, he's chasing me". ! !! :lol And the way that Angier, one of the two stage magicians in "The Prestige", is absolutely convinced that Borden, ( the other one ), cannot be using a mere double for one of his acts, and spends a fortune trying to work out his secret, etc. ... What *is* "real" here?

So, I've paid my $25 in order to have the "right" to watch the "show"/story play out, to "enjoy" the ( for the moment ) impenetrable puzzle, ( and also so as to not feel bad if her tale turns out to be true ... ). But it's almost as exhausting as watching "Memento" was the first time ... I wonder whether it will have as exhilarating and liberating and jubilatory an ending! :lol Or whether it will be more like "The Prestige" ...
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I liked The Prestige, the plot twist was so interesting :o

& I've heard Inception is good, i want to see that.


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30 Jul 2010, 6:18 am

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I've heard Inception is good, i want to see that.

Me too! :D But I live in France, and the first date for a non-dubbed version showing near me is 10 September ... and I am fairly sure that I don't want to risk the dubbed version, so have got to wait ... aaarrgghh ! :(
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30 Jul 2010, 6:22 am

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I've heard Inception is good, i want to see that.

Me too! :D But I live in France, and the first date for a non-dubbed version showing near me is 10 September ... and I am fairly sure that I don't want to risk the dubbed version, so have got to wait ... aaarrgghh ! :(
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it's already playing here :) , but at the same time i'm a little leery of watching a movie with Leonardo DiCaprio in it :? . There weren't a whole lot of movies that i've seen him in that i liked, except maybe Titanic & Blood Diamond


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30 Jul 2010, 6:26 am

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i'm a little leery of watching a movie with Leonardo DiCaprio in it :? . There weren't a whole lot of movies that i've seen him in that i liked, except maybe Titanic & Blood Diamond

I agree, but I liked him in "Internal Affairs" too, ( or whatever it was called; with the two undercover people on opposite sides ), so I think he's pretty good at characters under a lot of pressure, stories with almost non-stop tension. I haven't seen "Shutter Island" yet though, so don't know what he was like in that; have you?
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30 Jul 2010, 6:33 am

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i'm a little leery of watching a movie with Leonardo DiCaprio in it :? . There weren't a whole lot of movies that i've seen him in that i liked, except maybe Titanic & Blood Diamond

I agree, but I liked him in "Internal Affairs" too or whatever it was called, with the two undercover people on opposite sides, so I think he's pretty good in stories at high-tension. I haven't seen "Shutter Island" yet, so don't know what he was like in that; have you?
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No, i haven't seen Shutter Island either, though the type of character he plays in Blood Diamond seems identical to character type he plays in some of the other movies i've seen him in. & i'm not too crazy about that type when he plays it. Though i liked Blood Diamond and tolerated it for that just 'cause the story was good. I just wish he had more role variety lately, or bothered to change his appearance for the role.

Prolly going to rent Shutter Island this weekend though. I saw it at the grocery store today & was thinking about it, but instead rented The Wolfman


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30 Jul 2010, 6:38 am

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not sure who on here is a member of the australian band, "Origin of Janken", but thanks for the donation, whoever you are :)


their keyboardist sky says "no worries dude hope everything works out ok"

i also hope it works out ok for you and your gf.



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30 Jul 2010, 6:46 am

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not sure who on here is a member of the australian band, "Origin of Janken", but thanks for the donation, whoever you are :)


their keyboardist sky says "no worries dude hope everything works out ok"

i also hope it works out ok for you and your gf.
Ohh, alright :)
I didn't know which particular member he was so i just left a general thank you comment on their band's Myspace page

& thanks to you too btw for the well-wishes


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30 Jul 2010, 6:52 am

it is a "she" and she is also an aspie and our ferrets sometimes have play dates together. she used to come here a long time ago. i shall pass on that you left a comment.

i would donate myself but i just don't have the cash. sorry. :oops:



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30 Jul 2010, 6:54 am

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it is a "she" and she is also an aspie and our ferrets sometimes have play dates together. she used to come here a long time ago. i shall pass on that you left a comment.

i would donate myself but i just don't have the cash. sorry. :oops:
Ohhhh :o :oops: .
The name threw me off a bit.

Tell her thanks for me then :) . My memory is terrible and i'm not sure if the myspace comment was adequate or not. I'm sleepyyy


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30 Jul 2010, 6:58 am

i will pass on your words! :)



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30 Jul 2010, 7:01 am

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weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.

Actually just 18 days, from first visit to doctor until yesterday's surgery, not even three weeks.

Is that possible, even in the USA?
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Why would it not be possible? If time is of the essence they try to get surgery going quickly. Patients go into the ER all the time complaining about chest pain and have tests done that day, and surgery scheduled the next day, spend a week or so in ICU, and then are released.

Now granted cancer can be harder to pin down than a heart problem, but 18 days is more than enough time to run tests and get surgery scheduled.


Chest pain is the number priority in ER.

A tip for everyone, if you call an ambulence and want it to arrive IMMEDIATELY, just say you're having severe chest pain and you think you're having a heart attack or say that you have a history of heart attack.

Things are only done fast if you have severe chest pain, because it can be heart attack, and heart attack kills you much sooner than any other conditions.

Oh, the other thing that will be done fast is high fever.


Yes, I'm aware chest pain is a priority, I was just using it as an example. The point was that 18 days is more than enough time to find the cancer and surgically remove it if they're actually trying to be quick about it.


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