Real-life Famous Aspies?...

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Ack, not in Human Monsters nor in encyclopedia. But I looked him up on Crime Library and I remember a bit of his story. I don't know too much about him. I think I know it from a picture of the crime scene of his family in one of my books of crime scene photographs (at one time I wanted to become criminal profiler so was preparing myself for the Gruesome).

Do you have any good books you can recommend on him?? Always eager to expand on a collection

I think in reference to the Unabomber, I think Jerry Newport (TheWhale) had mentionned something about how Ted's parents thought he had autism. He mentionned some interesting stuff about him on another board. Maybe he'll respond here about it.

I got a call in 1996, shortly after my wife and I were on "Sixty Minutes." One of the lawyers for Ted was exploring autism as a possible defense. He mentioned how Ted's family suspected autism. Ted also had a bad reaction to a vaccine as a kid and the doctor told his parents not to touch him for a year. Ted's first target was a Michigan Professor of Psychology, McConnell, who published a paper; "Benefits of Sensory Deprivation for Autstic Youth." I guess Ted didn't agree and perhaps identified with the kids in the paper.

I was not a professional and referred the lawyer to somebody who could possibly diagnose Ted. I also asked if there might not be a diagnosis with a track record in court. That is apparently what they eventually chose rather than autism.

Jerry Newport

I am fascinated by Wittgenstein and his life and would really appreciate it if anyone could point me in the direction of any online articles about the possibility of him having asperger's. I read one but can't find it again and the only others I can find are articles in journals that you have to pay for. I know that he didn't speak until he was 4 so would that mean he would probably be diagnosed with HFA not AS?

Anyway another philosopher I know that is thought to have had asperger's is Spinoza. Apparently he was incredibly misanthropic and spent his time polishing glass when he was not pursuing philosophy.

Also another suspected aspie in philiosophy is the english philosopher A.J Ayer who wrote Language, Truth and Logic which could probabaly be the title of an autobiographical work of an aspie

If you want to read a good biography of Witt then you should read this http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... 23-5826865

Some people believe that the Columbine Killers may have had AS.

TowerOfSong said:

Being familiar with some of Spinoza's work, especially his ideas of God/Universe (which I thought was awesome and he should have just left out the word God, lol), I would not at all be surprised if he were AS/HFA in any way. As I sat in class as we studied him, I was actually wondering that simply because his ideas were totally new and not just new, but beautifully bizarre for that period in time.

On an aside, I also like David Hume, but I doubt he was Aspie. Not as thrilled with Kant.

Trent Reznor has Bipolar disorder like Robin Williams. Bill Gates has Asperger's and people think Winston Churchil may have had it as well.

What are your sources for this? I think that Robin Williams would have told me he is bi-polar. We talked a lot about AS and he seemed very open about stuff. As for Gates, he told a friend of mine that he was diagnosed with PDD as a kid so you might be right on him.

Jerry Newport

I have often wondered about Donald Trump...

Has anyone been getting similar Aspie vibes from his direction???

By the way, the psychiatrist who diagnosed Ted Kaczynski with Schizophrenia I don't think was familiar with AS/HFA.

Because if I remember correctly, she was a psychiatrist for the Prosecution and not the Defense. Dxing him with Schizophrenia was a big fall for the Prosecution because I have no doubt that was taken into consideration during his sentencing. He very well could have gotten the death penalty (I cannot remember the state/states he was tried in). Please correct me if I am wrong if he was tried in a state(s) without the death penalty.

However, if he had been simply dx with Aspergers or HFA, they might not have been so kind. Especially if he was dx with AS. Because with Schizophrenia, psychosis would have been taken into account. Clearly it wasn't enough to get him Not Guilty By Reason of Incompitence. But I believe the dx of Schizophrenia won him a lesser sentence.

With Aspergers, by law he would have been held accountable and maybe not given as much leniency as he was given.

But if I am wrong as to the death penalty in that state(s), this entire speal of mine makes no difference at all, lol. sigh.

Anyways, the point: psychosis makes more difference in the judicial system than does a developmental disorder. Unless mental retardation accompanies it.

[quote="Sophist"]By the way, the psychiatrist who diagnosed Ted Kaczynski with Schizophrenia I don't think was familiar with AS/HFA.

Because if I remember correctly, she was a psychiatrist for the Prosecution and not the Defense. Dxing him with Schizophrenia was a big fall for the Prosecution because I have no doubt that was taken into consideration during his sentencing. He very well could have gotten the death penalty (I cannot remember the state/states he was tried in). Please correct me if I am wrong if he was tried in a state(s) without the death penalty.

Jerry: I believe he must have been threatened with trial in a state with the death penalty because the attorney I spoke to was really concerned about that. As for DXs, there are enough whores in the psychiatry profession to sell any DX for a defense.

I never met Ted. He lived in my dorm when I was a freshman at Michigan. He usually dressed up very simple in one of those hospital orderly suits. He never talked to anyone unless you could solve a math problem that he couldn't. My counselor was the guy who taught Ted how to live outdoors and my sophomore Honors math professor, Allen Shields, was head of Ted's PhD committee.

Shields died of cancer in 1990. Too bad because he was one guy who actually got Ted to open up. Shields had Ted circulate a petition to the math students. It was against our participation in any defense-related research. But most of the faculty shunned Ted. They even gave him a problem for his PhD that he wasn't supposed to solve but he did it in amazining short time. Berkeley hired him as an associate professor and the rest is history....

Jerry Newport

i seriously doubt he's aspie..he's probably got some aspie-ish qualities (bad hair style), but i doubt he's aspie

I was told Robin Williams had bipolar on the previous page.

Well, do yourself a favor and remember that just because you read something on the internet doesn't mean it is true

Jerry

Donald Trump couldnt be Aspie...He has got too good a social intuition.

Has anyone looked into Edgar Allen Poe? Some say that he might have NLD...

I do not like being patronised, but at least you are not being too patronising.

eg. The evil phrase: 'It is on the internet so it must be true.'