Stockholm Syndrome

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Agree, agree... these psychiatrists make a living with coming up with all kind of nonsense issues to be treated. Hey, someone needs to pay for their pensions.

Kidnap me and find out.

Haha aye, seen it and been disgusted by it.

I try to make all my judgments and opinions as detatched and as evenhanded as possible, i try not to let personal feelings get in the way. If i could see the side of the people holding me i'd probably sympathise with them yeah but it wouldn't be emotionally decided. I do find that most people are reasonable and have good reasons ( in their heads) for doing what they do.

I don't think you can just 'develop' it, BUT you can fall in love with an amazing song called Stockholm Syndrome [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPYLIy3FWpk[/youtube]

Disney version Beauty and the Beast is known for Stockholm syndrome. I guess Belle was kidnapped when the beast made her stay in the castle to get her father out of the dungeon the beast had him locked up in. But she falls in love with the beast and comes back to rescue him from Gaston. People have called that Stockholm syndrome.

Whenever I hear of the word kidnapping, I always picture a person being grabbed off the streets or anywhere and then taken away than a person being forced to not leave a place and they are kept there or a person who is lead away from somewhere with a person who eventually kidnaps them by not letting them leave nor taking them home as they promised so they take them somewhere else instead where they can rape them or kill them.

Heck no! If I were kidnapped I might pretend to have some sort of feelings as a survival method, but as soon as the jackass turned his back I would whack him to death. Double tap. No doubt. I always say that every time I watch those movies.

easily

I've heard about the "Stockholm Syndrome" label used involving epilepsy: http://www.epilepsy.com/node/986943

With epilepsy, it is usually considered a class of a conversion disorder with the label Psychogenic Non-Epileptic Seizures (PNES). I consider PNES a crock of Bull, because epileptic seizures "train" people how best to respond to any clue of impending seizures, and then that trained behaviour is then often taken as a Mental Disorder when a seizure doesn't fully develop to "independent observer" detectable levels.

The name "Stockholm Syndrome" has probably been applied to many physical disorders that are easily misdiagnosed as a conversion disorder. Misdiagnosed Mental disorders as the consequence of a conversion disorder presents many more ideological paradoxes (i.e., telling the patient's family that the patient has the mental disorder of thinking that a mental disorder is being suffered).

The book "An introduction to early childhood: a multidisciplinary approach" By Tim Waller (2005), mentions the "Stockholm Syndrome" 4 or so times, and other books also mainly limit it to cases of abuse and bullying when children with autistic/Asperger's disorders are involved.

Tadzio

capture bonding
may sound strange
but to love your oppressor
increases your chance of survival

relative to here
I left my hart
in WP forums
to return to the NT world
is too much to bare

I am yours WP
you big meanie

Such joking or sarcasm for such a serious subject.

Stockholm Syndrome is not false, it is not about love, but works upon the need to survive.

The perp has total control over your life or death, as much as they can cause you pain or death, they can also save you from such. After all, it is they that make the decision about your survival. Over time, this can make the victim go as far as to protect the perp as their own life depends on what the perp is 'victim' to themselves. It is why captives won't run away even when given the opportunity, Natasha Kampuch (sp?) managed to, but Jaycee Lee Dugard could not, she had children to consider.

This is a very complex part of the human's need to survive and can only be understood after much study in psychology/neurology...or be unfortunate enough to suffer such oneself.

So in answer to the original question, yes, it is very possible an autistic would fall victim to this mentality, in such danger of death, it is at our very core to survive and we will do anything within our own psyches to try and achieve it. Unless one was suicidal, maybe that would be a saviour. ToM or love or mental capacity would rarely stop someone trying to not die.

No, but here comes a curious detail - under the influence of this thread yesterday in the evening, later I had a dream in which I developed one - the dream was about my being kidnapped by terrorists - muslims - and one of them fell in love with me even though I informed him I had HIV Btw, this syndrome is in many cases just a myth - I read about victims of kidnapping who later claimed it wasn't any made up syndrome which prevented them from attempts of running away but a panic fear of being killed for trying to do this.

Dreams aren't reality, they aren't scientific in any way. I thought this was a serious thread...I guess it's just for general, rather than serious discussion.

I know, it was just such a light-hearted mention.

So the victims didn't really fall in love then if they couldn't run away or get away because they were scared. How misleading.

Coming into this thread very late, but it appears I have it.
I agree labels can be misleading, and it is more about a dysfunctional relationship, rather than a mental disorder, condition, or syndrome, but for lack of a better label there you go.

I was hospitalised - sectioned - when I was 17, after I had some sort of breakdown.
My parents took me, and I was made to stay there for 2 - 3 weeks.
Memories are a bit fuzzy, due to the time elapsed, and the fact I was medicated out of my mind on prescription drugs.

After I went home, we had family therapy, and a psychiatrist decided I should have CBT. My parents decided this must mean that my behaviour must be the cause. Furthermore, the initial since rescinded diagnosis at the time was schizophrenia, and the newer research at the time had linked cannabis use to causing schizophrenia, so yet another ground for my parents to say I made myself sick.

From then on my parents insisted I had to behave in ways that they approved of, they vetted my friends, girlfriends, activities, and work.
If I showed any emotive reaction it was seen as my mental illness playing up, and I was made to believe that only by following my parents advice, and avoiding what they did not approve of could I avoid further instances of mental illness including possible hospital trips.

I had a sense that my reality was skewed when I moved interstate with my now ex wife, then girlfriend.
Being so far away from my family and not having them micromanage my life, I could see that their insistence on running my life for me was not healthy or appropriate.
Unfortunately however the seeds had been sown, and I had PTSD, anxiety and depression dog me, though they (and my ASD) had not been diagnosed at that time.

Fast forward to today, and I have been diagnosed with ASD 4 weeks ago.
I now realise that the relationship with my family reeks of Stockholm Syndrome, and it is only because I have had minimum contact with my family that I can see the problem for what it is.

I was always scared that if I didn't toe the line, do what my parents said, and subsume my individuality, that I would be at risk of mental health problems and hospitalisation (anyone who has been to a psyche ward and been traumatised by the experience will do anything to stay away in future).
To complicate matters my family are strict Roman Catholic, so even my rebellious lack of faith was a point of contention.
Anyway, Stockholm Syndrome is a real thing and the fact that 23 years after my breakdown I still cringe at the thought of interacting with my own family proves it is not just some BS thing.