I scored 99 percent on an ADHD test
ADHD has three subtypes: Predominantly hyperactive (very rarely diagnosed, and only in very young children), predominantly inattentive (often referred to under the misnomer "ADD" as if it were a different category, often diagnosed in adults, even those who should be diagnosed combined type), and combined type, who has both inattentive and hyperactive/impulsive symptoms. The majority of people diagnosed with ADHD have combined type, which means that symptoms from both categories are present.
You are more likely to win a lottery jackpot than you are to meet someone with ADHD who has hyperactive/impulsive symptoms but no inattentive symptoms.
Ok, thanks for clarifying. I guess this is a cultural thing. Here in Finland, ADD is a separate diagnosis (although of course on the same spectrum as ADHD). The term ADHD is here only used for the hyperactive variety. For example, my official diagnosises are Asperger and ADD.
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Ah, the ICD-10 criteria for ADHD (hyperkinetic disorder) also lists inattentive symptoms: http://www.adhd.org.nz/ICD101.html
You should meet my six year old nephew.
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I mean, seriously, a squirrel? We haven't even got those in my country.
I believe that one can ascertain their position from these two points.
People with AS can be sensitive to most medications so if they don't have ADHD and take ADHD meds and it does nothing for except give horrible side effects, yeah that can be detrimental.
Also, I hope by 'speed' you are referring to actual speed and not ADHD meds because I will be very offended.
I've know people with just ADHD and just AS and they are completely different. One, it's like pulling teeth getting someone with ADHD to follow a routine or follow ways to actually counter some of their symptoms. People with AS can take advantage of their ability to create a routine. All they have to do is make it more productive and their on their way to a more organised life.
I haven't met one person with ADHD that has a close attention to detail.
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You should meet my six year old nephew.
I did say that it's just about only children who are diagnosed with these. Odds are he'll show the inattentive symptoms as he gets older.
Alternatively: Buy a lottery ticket, quick.


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I haven't met one person with ADHD that has a close attention to detail.
Do you remember a thread on the ADD forum where people were saying that they thought ADHD gave them superior social perception?
I haven't met one person with ADHD that has a close attention to detail.
Do you remember a thread on the ADD forum where people were saying that they thought ADHD gave them superior social perception?
Sort of. I think that comes through a lot of practice and awareness of your lack of social skills. I know so much about socialising these days but not everything, and sometimes I can't execute what I know.
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I'm frustrated when I hear the two are put together. I feel they are opposite. I over focus on everything. For some reason the people that devise the criteria for diagnostics are compelled to come up with lists, top ten symptoms. It is all subjective. What looks like one or the other on any given day can be no more than a coping mechanism for something else. As a child I may have appeared to not be able to focus on 'what someone wanted me to focus on' but it didn't mean I wasn't focused. I might have ran around a room like crazy but only because I was frustrated being unable to express my emotions properly, not hyperactive. Because no one 'got it' I learned how to cope and at times it appears like many different things. I don't understand why people are driven to find the right explanation of their problem. There is a slot in this world for everyone, you exist, it is your job to figure it out how to get to where you want to go. There isn't one path to find or one medication to find so you can get on the 'right' path. There is a path for you, build it with what makes it as pleasant as possible, find where you fit and then enjoy it.
It maybe a paradox, but I see things in detail or notice things in detail, but the force of the outside of you takes much longer to affect your cognition--that other 'coin side' of missing things.
Interestingly, my wife notices my attention to detail. So what is this then, P. , V.?
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A friend of mine who has severe ADHD, has managed to get herself into auto accidents and nearly burned down her own home while not on medication. When I was in grade school, we had a boy fostered who was in the same class I was, who had ADHD. During the time he lived with us he managed to give himself a concussion and a broken wrist while jumping down a flight of stairs. He was very injury prone, and very impulsive, and the latter definitely caused the former.
That's so true.
ADHD has three subtypes: Predominantly hyperactive (very rarely diagnosed, and only in very young children), predominantly inattentive (often referred to under the misnomer "ADD" as if it were a different category, often diagnosed in adults, even those who should be diagnosed combined type), and combined type, who has both inattentive and hyperactive/impulsive symptoms. The majority of people diagnosed with ADHD have combined type, which means that symptoms from both categories are present.
You are more likely to win a lottery jackpot than you are to meet someone with ADHD who has hyperactive/impulsive symptoms but no inattentive symptoms.
Ok, thanks for clarifying. I guess this is a cultural thing. Here in Finland, ADD is a separate diagnosis (although of course on the same spectrum as ADHD). The term ADHD is here only used for the hyperactive variety. For example, my official diagnosises are Asperger and ADD.
That seems to be a European thing. ADHD without hyperactivity is usually referred to as ADD ("attention deficit disorder") in Germany as well. ADD is also used as the general term to mean the two main forms of ADHD that are known to the ICD.
When people talk about "ADHD" here they'd usually be talking about ADHD-combined type in the US.
In the ICD, ADD or ADHD-predominately inattentive type is also often diagnosed under F98.8 "Other specified behavioural and emotional disorders with onset usually occurring in childhood and adolescence" which includes disorders/symptoms such as attention deficit disorder without hyperactivity, excessive masturbation, nail-biting, nose-picking and thumb-sucking.
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I haven't met one person with ADHD that has a close attention to detail.
Do you remember a thread on the ADD forum where people were saying that they thought ADHD gave them superior social perception?
Sort of. I think that comes through a lot of practice and awareness of your lack of social skills. I know so much about socialising these days but not everything, and sometimes I can't execute what I know.
I remember saying something like "I don't get you people. I had to consciously learn how to socialize. I don't think ADHD does this."
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One of these days I'm going to add to my sig that "ADHD does not represent an inability to pay attention, but instead an in ability to manage one's attention: You can hyperfocus on something for hours, or you may not be able to focus on your favorite book for more than five minutes."
Anyway, the point of the symptom lists are that they are not subjective. They're actually defined based on research, sometimes decades of research, to establish a list of common features that can be used to diagnose these conditions.
Thanks for additional clarification, Sora.
I also wonder if you're trying to frame AS as mild and thus connecting it to a condition that is perceived as mild vs. something that is perceived as anything but mild, although both AS and ADHD are severe conditions (so mild either would not be technically "mild" when compared to other neurological and psychological disorders). Or if perhaps ADHD has less of that negative association than severe autism. I mean, movie stars and corporate CEOs and prominent doctors have ADHD and are open about it. No one visualizes severe ADHD as "sitting in the corner banging your head" even though it can be pretty unintentionally self-destructive (I don't think people tend to realize that part).
A friend of mine who has severe ADHD, has managed to get herself into auto accidents and nearly burned down her own home while not on medication. When I was in grade school, we had a boy fostered who was in the same class I was, who had ADHD. During the time he lived with us he managed to give himself a concussion and a broken wrist while jumping down a flight of stairs. He was very injury prone, and very impulsive, and the latter definitely caused the former.
It goes to show how society views or perceives ADHD as a non-head banging disorder, therefore 'safe and predictable folk.' But, I hear the prisons are full of them. I saw a stat that was way up there.
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Ok, maybe a should rephrase myself: I believe certain cases of AS are closer to certain cases of "NT" ADHD than they are to certain cases of AD.
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I don't think this is really the case. Aside from ADHD not really being "neurotypical", I think the only point at which they can appear similar is from the outside. And one of the reasons they appear so similar is because 60-70% of all autistic people meet the criteria for ADHD already. Which is to say that until the past decade or two, autistic people with ADHD were seen as having purely autistic traits, rather than autism and ADHD.
I spent a lot of time from June-November 2010 trying to convince myself that all of my cognitive problems were ADHD, but I kept running into problems that I couldn't explain as ADHD, as much as I wanted to. From September to December, it was becoming increasingly obvious (as I learned more about ADHD) that ADHD simply didn't describe my difficulties as completely as I thought they did over the summer. I mean, it was definitely there, but it wasn't everything that was there.
I also wonder if you're trying to frame AS as mild and thus connecting it to a condition that is perceived as mild vs. something that is perceived as anything but mild, although both AS and ADHD are severe conditions (so mild either would not be technically "mild" when compared to other neurological and psychological disorders). Or if perhaps ADHD has less of that negative association than severe autism. I mean, movie stars and corporate CEOs and prominent doctors have ADHD and are open about it. No one visualizes severe ADHD as "sitting in the corner banging your head" even though it can be pretty unintentionally self-destructive (I don't think people tend to realize that part).
A friend of mine who has severe ADHD, has managed to get herself into auto accidents and nearly burned down her own home while not on medication. When I was in grade school, we had a boy fostered who was in the same class I was, who had ADHD. During the time he lived with us he managed to give himself a concussion and a broken wrist while jumping down a flight of stairs. He was very injury prone, and very impulsive, and the latter definitely caused the former.
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