A Curious Incident of A Dog at Nighttime

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31 Mar 2012, 5:50 pm

It is my opinion in you set out to write a book about someone with autism you have already failed at depicting it
Sherlock homes if indeed he is on the spectrum is the only way write a book about something that has people in it
Even then I find the depictions of those on the spectrum poor at best I think basically it’s too early for us our condition has been known to science for too shorter time then for our writers to think in anything but black and white stereotypes



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31 Mar 2012, 7:42 pm

Well, the book is good, but it over-stereotypes Aspergers Syndrome if you ask me.

Fact - The author said he doesn't know much about Asperger's, and regrets it being used in the book description

I've also heard the book is being turned into a movie


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31 Mar 2012, 7:53 pm

Agreed with the "it's too stereotypical" statement. But it's better than most books, because it does allow you to understand the main character's world and his way of thinking; and it doesn't paint him as either pitiful or inspirational. The author seems to be using AS as primarily a way to get a character with a different type of mind, which would be interesting to use as a viewpoint for a story. I can live with that. If most authors thought of disabled characters as presenting unique narrative possibilities, we'd probably get a lot less of that stupid pitiful-and/or-inspirational nonsense.


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31 Mar 2012, 8:41 pm

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After a few pages, I couldn't identify with the main character at all, and I stopped reading.


In most of the books I read, I always have a dangerous tendency of identify myself with the characters-not only the protagonist, but many of the characters.

In this specific case, I cannot identify myself with the main character, neither could I identify my friends with AS with him.

Moreover, as other people said in this thread which I absolutely agree with- repeating them- it is stereotypical.

And its target reader might be NTs:p If I may say that^^



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31 Mar 2012, 9:54 pm

Thanks for that explanation, Sora.

That sounds like me in many ways (super strong interest and really no care for understanding people; I don't share much and lecture to others all that often though), which is quite prototypical of AS.

I'm by no means severe in regards to Asperger's.

(Plenty of kids with AS in special ed too, as you said. I know one.)



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31 Mar 2012, 10:07 pm

I liked the book as a way to get in the character's mind, and how he saw as perfectly normal and reasonable the things that he did. I didn't make the connection with aspergers though, and I don't think he has it.


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31 Mar 2012, 11:05 pm

I've also read it as well and I found the character to be too stereotypical. I think that he functioned more at the level of Rain Man.


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02 Apr 2012, 11:49 am

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I've also read it as well and I found the character to be too stereotypical. I think that he functioned more at the level of Rain Man.
I found that kind of odd--he does things that I couldn't have managed at his age. Some of the things he does, I still can't do. And yet he seems more obvious an autistic than I am now. I guess it just goes to show yet again that "obviously autistic" needn't mean "severely impaired"--that you can't tell by how autistic somebody is, how good they are at coping with the NT world.


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02 Apr 2012, 12:23 pm

The way I remember the character from before I stopped reading reminds me of a poster they've put up in some places.
It's about autism. It's originally in Dutch, but I've found a bludgeoned version on the magic highway of the internet.
The translation used is sub-perfect, but you'll get the point from just looking at it - 'you are autistic if you are this, and you are this if you are autistic'.

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Apologies for the giant picture. Coincidentally, the people who own that book here tend to be the people who put up these posters.
It's a blunt way of stereotyping. I agree with only some of these, and I've had a professional diagnosis for ten or more years.



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02 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm

I agree with what the above posters have said about how the book uses a crude stereotype, and I think that unfortunately it's probably done a lot of damage.

"The Curious Incident in The Dog in the Nighttime" is probably the most famous fictional book about Aspergers syndrome, at least here in the UK. It means a large number of the general public will base their picture of the condition solely on this book - I certainly did for many years. This can't be good news for real-life aspies, whose symptoms are often far less severe than Christopher's.

So I have mixed feelings about the book. Judging it purely as a work of fiction I thought it was very good...



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02 Apr 2012, 1:56 pm

foxfield wrote:
I agree with what the above posters have said about how the book uses a crude stereotype, and I think that unfortunately it's probably done a lot of damage.

"The Curious Incident in The Dog in the Nighttime" is probably the most famous fictional book about Aspergers syndrome, at least here in the UK. It means a large number of the general public will base their picture of the condition solely on this book - I certainly did for many years. This can't be good news for real-life aspies, whose symptoms are often far less severe than Christopher's.

So I have mixed feelings about the book. Judging it purely as a work of fiction I thought it was very good...


I enjoyed the book and found it a real eye-opener.

I agree that there's the risk of people forming stereotypes after reading the book. My thinking is this, though - there seem to be very few fiction books out there that include characters with autism or asperger's. While the depiction in the book may lead to stereotyping etc, at least it helps a bit in raising awareness of autism, and may even help to improve people's understanding of how it can affect an individual. If it prompts discussion then that can't be bad :)



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02 Apr 2012, 2:27 pm

I read the book years ago. I think the character has lower functioning traits and not aspergers. It was probably a marketing ploy to put aspergers on the cover to make it sell.



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02 Apr 2012, 6:17 pm

Overall I really liked the book, because it helped me understand my son better and it therefore has helped him too. I really appreciated the first-person point-of-view, and it helped me imagine what it might be like to perceive the world through ASD eyes. It reminded me that we all have an inner world and that what we perceive from a person's exterior can be and probably is vastly different than the interior. It has helped me empathize better with people of all neurotypes and has made me a better person.

I think it is a good book to recommend to NTs who are interested in learning about people on the spectrum. I have recommended it to teachers and family members. I think most NTs are intelligent/mature enough not to stereotype other people based on a work of fiction. :)



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14 May 2012, 6:54 am

I enjoyed it for what it was, fiction. I thought he must be severely autistic though.



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14 May 2012, 9:34 am

DenvrDave wrote:
Overall I really liked the book, because it helped me understand my son better and it therefore has helped him too. I really appreciated the first-person point-of-view, and it helped me imagine what it might be like to perceive the world through ASD eyes. It reminded me that we all have an inner world and that what we perceive from a person's exterior can be and probably is vastly different than the interior. It has helped me empathize better with people of all neurotypes and has made me a better person.

I think it is a good book to recommend to NTs who are interested in learning about people on the spectrum. I have recommended it to teachers and family members. I think most NTs are intelligent/mature enough not to stereotype other people based on a work of fiction. :)


That's exactly what the problem is; It doesn't actually give you an autistic perspective at all, it's just cold fiction. If you want an aspies perspective read something written by an aspie.


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16 May 2012, 12:47 am

Ganondox wrote:
That's exactly what the problem is; It doesn't actually give you an autistic perspective at all, it's just cold fiction. If you want an aspies perspective read something written by an aspie.


That's a good point. You might not even know a writer like John Elder Robinson is autistic unless you were told first before reading him.