What do you hate and love most about having Asperger's?

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28 May 2012, 7:40 am

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If somebody said ''what about your talents?'' I can answer that with a straight, ''it is not an Aspie thing to naturally have a talent with the piano.''


Precisely my feelings about my Autism and my music ability.


So what about NTs who have music ability?


What about them? They're NTs and they have music ability. Music ability isn't limited to any sort of group as far as I'm aware. I was saying that it's not an Autie/Aspie thing to have a talent with music - but as with the general population, some of us are good with music, and just because someone is a good musician and autistic does not mean they are a good musician because they are autistic.



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28 May 2012, 8:37 am

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If somebody said ''what about your talents?'' I can answer that with a straight, ''it is not an Aspie thing to naturally have a talent with the piano.''


Precisely my feelings about my Autism and my music ability.


So what about NTs who have music ability?


What about them? They're NTs and they have music ability. Music ability isn't limited to any sort of group as far as I'm aware. I was saying that it's not an Autie/Aspie thing to have a talent with music - but as with the general population, some of us are good with music, and just because someone is a good musician and autistic does not mean they are a good musician because they are autistic.


Well people on the spectrum are more likely to invest in their talents and can become signifficantly good at it and give themselves enough time to focus on their talents, etc. But I just wondered why people on the spectrum say they have talents because they have Autism as though talents is only something you can have if you're Autistics which means NTs have no talents. Unless what we're saying is Autistics pursue their talents in a more advanced way to NTs would?


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28 May 2012, 10:24 am

Hate:

The social aspects of ASD/Asperger's. As others have mentioned here, the social etiquette issues- trying to figure out how to interact with others in conversation. Even wondering how to hold my arms/ hands during said conversation.

Fashion: I can't comprehend fashion at all. If something works perfectly, why change it? I understand changing when an item is obsoleted by one of better form and/or function. But just because a person of 'superior taste' thinks his idea of fashion is better than mine? "Don't wear white after Labor Day" is a good example- if you like to wear white, wear it whenever you want!! !

Love:

The hyper-focus aspects of being involved in a project. I can concentrate for hours on a project that I am involved in. I don't quit until I am satisfied with the solution and the job is done.

Lack of desire to waist time with needless social chit-chat. I see others doing this and don't see much point in it- especially if it is taking away from quality work time. What's the point if it has no logical benefit?

I could think of more but those are the obvious ones to me right now...


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28 May 2012, 10:40 am

Hate the ignorance
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28 May 2012, 10:54 am

I hate to sound like Mr Negative, but are you people genuinely serious about 'loving' aspects of aspergers? It's all bad as far as I'm concerned.



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28 May 2012, 11:04 am

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I hate to sound like Mr Negative, but are you people genuinely serious about 'loving' aspects of aspergers? It's all bad as far as I'm concerned.


Yes, I am. I see NTs get frustrated and give up way too easy on something they are working on. I get super focused and the more barriers I get on a project, the more determined I become to find a solution.

As far as total lack of desire for social chit-chat, I am happy to have no interest or involvement with it. Some NTs I know are completely absorbed in it- total waste of time (in my opinion)...


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28 May 2012, 12:03 pm

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The hyper-focus aspects of being involved in a project. I can concentrate for hours on a project that I am involved in. I don't quit until I am satisfied with the solution and the job is done.


Same.

hate the hypersensitivity. It made this weekend hell. :(



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28 May 2012, 12:35 pm

Cannot really call my reactions to autism "hate" or "love", but as of 2012...

DISLIKE

- the distress that the hypo- and hypersensitivities cause
- the damaged and/or incorrectly working filter processes of stimuli that cause stupid routines to survive the over-abundance of details
- the difficulties in making myself understood in basic matters, in answering correctly, in understanding people and the failure to produce speech spontaneously
- having missed out on cultural education which adds to my confusion my environment and the actions of people
- not being able to really bond with people and missing out on the vast benefits of many kinds of relationships

LIKE

- the altered and heightened experiences that the hypo- and hypersensitivities cause
- the damaged and/or incorrectly working filter processes of stimuli that cause me to be aware of tiniest details everyone else misses
- the "fact" that I feel as if I my use of language is more sensible
- having missed out on cultural education which means I am somewhat less tainted by cultural upbringing than everyone else
- not being able to really bond with people and being free of the many restrictions of many kinds of relationships

That's all I can think of at the moment.


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30 May 2012, 7:26 am

Atomsk wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
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If somebody said ''what about your talents?'' I can answer that with a straight, ''it is not an Aspie thing to naturally have a talent with the piano.''


Precisely my feelings about my Autism and my music ability.


So what about NTs who have music ability?


What about them? They're NTs and they have music ability. Music ability isn't limited to any sort of group as far as I'm aware. I was saying that it's not an Autie/Aspie thing to have a talent with music - but as with the general population, some of us are good with music, and just because someone is a good musician and autistic does not mean they are a good musician because they are autistic.

Quite true, also some people AS might not like music at all. Ever I thought I might add this ... Research have shown that with Autism and AS comes a higher chance of having perfect ear for tones/pitch (I'm unsure of what the english name for this is). The occurance of this, is it in fact 20 times higher in people with Autism/AS, than in NTs. A lot more things are of course required to be talented with a piano (or any musical instrument for that matter), but I'm sure it helps :D


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08 Jun 2012, 6:14 pm

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Edit: Removed my colossal list of things because, apparently, I'm just s***ing up the thread.


I would read your list. :)



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08 Jun 2012, 6:23 pm

I see things in everyday life that everyone mises. I am very hyper vigilant. I also have an ability to write legal documents due to my literal interpretation of phrases.



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08 Jun 2012, 7:22 pm

I HATE...
-Tactile, visual, and auditory sensory issues (in that order)
-My inability to drive
-People not understanding me and how hard things are for me
-My severe visual-spatial deficits and trouble with all math but algebra
-Having to live in a social world where I am forced to interact with people

I LOVE...
-My special interests
-My encyclopedic memory
-My hyposensitive vestibular sense (makes me enjoy roller coasters and amusement park rides)
-My creativity
-My hyperlexia/natural language-learning ability


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08 Jun 2012, 8:45 pm

I love my breadth of interests and curiosity. Every day I may either find something new that's thoroughly fascinating, or remember something else I could willingly spend a year learning about or experiencing. I could spend a few lifetimes scratching surfaces, but I could even get fed up by the year end.

It's a pain how others aren't like that. They know what they like, and unless I have an abject lack of understanding, that often seems to be drinks at the weekend, shallow art and knowing what they like and are good at and sticking to it.


Gotta drop in failing to charm the opposite sex. It's not everything, and I doubt I even have time for that lark, but that's been a hate of mine for a while tbh. Add it to the general sensation that I'm being excluded more than included, that I have a feeling I don't last long in friendships once I'm close enough to people to not have to feign politeness or being summat else.



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09 Jun 2012, 6:20 am

I am not going to waste listing all these things down that are most probably just general personality traits what anybody could have (because, newsflash: NTs have their own personality traits too. They are not all the same).

What I hate most about AS is the inability to get away with breaking a social rule. If an NT acts inappropriately, they can get away with it better and people just make excuses by saying ''oh it's just his/her way'' or ''oh he's/she's just trying to be friendly/affectionate'', not matter how annoying they're behaving. This doesn't happen all the time with people, but people give other people a chance more than they do me.
I also hate the way I'm never took seriously. My thoughts and ideas never seem to matter, and I feel I'm on nobody's wavelength. I don't feel so much like it with friends, but I do with my family. My mum understands me a lot and we get on really great when we're together, but when her sisters are round she turns rather bitchy and as though she hasn't got any patience with me. Every time I say something she's always saying ''oh, yes!'' to me in a fed up, impatient tone, and I feel patronized afterwards, and feel unimportant. She also gives off the ''I'm-socially-normal-and-you're-not'' impression, although she is unintentionally making me feel this way. She only behaves like this when she's with one of her sisters, not so much anyone else.

I hate always feeling like this. Now I feel I got to avoid family gatherings. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong, and I seem to appear more socially awkward when I'm with my family more than when I'm with my friends. This has taught me a lesson: I will make more social faux pas when I behave more confidently around people, because obviously I have very little social phobia around my mum and other close relatives and obviously come out with stupid things at inappropriate timings.

Again my mum is in the right and I am in the wrong (because people are always on the neurotypical's side and against the Aspie), and so that is what I hate about having AS: always being wrong, whatever you do, even if you do exactly what neurotypicals would typically do in a situation, it's still wrong because you are Aspie. So, having AS is wrong, practically.


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09 Jun 2012, 4:02 pm

Hate
Not being able to express emotion. Social anxiety and exhaustion. Feeling incompetent and bored with small talk, flirting, most things people care about.

Love
Focus, intelligence, feeling like I can learn and become good at anything I put my mind to eventually.



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09 Jun 2012, 7:02 pm

nemorosa wrote:
I hate to sound like Mr Negative, but are you people genuinely serious about 'loving' aspects of aspergers? It's all bad as far as I'm concerned.


Yes you are. Some of us got tired of being miserable all the time and try our best to find some good in a lifelong problem we've had difficulty coping with.


HATE
I hate the constant issues with social interaction, relationships beyond my parents, and poor attempts to mingle with the public and look normal, which I've all but given up on. The crippling social anxiety forces me to do stuff like jog like at night just to avoid others and I dread going to the store..yet I get so sick of my room and feel wonderful when I'm able to go out. I have a huge dependency on my parents, for friendship, comfort and talking and they're not always up to the task and that's when I feel the worst. It also sucks feeling completely sapped after social encounters.



I dislike how the AS community is overly negative and sometimes elitist, especially given the "WHY ARE THERE SO MANY ASPI FAKERS!! !" topic. Yet I still post here because I get lonely and some of the talk is good. Still don't feel like much connection.

LOVE
I love how fun it makes my obsessions and I think I see the world in a very neat way compared to a normal person. I was also very unhappy for a long time and an official diagnosis recently has allowed me to begin getting better care and having a lot of lifelong problems fully recognized as not necessarily my fault. Stuff makes a lot more sense and I get some absolution out of that.