why are they so many AS fakers?

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I like it when I hear that one of my fellow WP members shares a success story, because it shows the world that we can accomplish things that most people can. We educate the world with everything that we post, including success stories. That's what I like about WP.

mmcool is 15 years old. Is that your age as well?

Frankly I did not find his question even worth considering. It lacked depth, maturity and a sense of understanding of the world around him. Worse, it showed his poor grasp of the English language. If a written language is the only means we Aspies have to communicate via the internet, and especially on WP, then I would say most of you guys read too much into his question and attempted to answer it with way too much objectivity. lol

I wasn't aware that people did fake having ASD's. Most of the time its the ones with AS trying to fake being NT. At any rate, it's probably just an attention-grabbing stunt, though a stupid one in my opinion. There are far better ways of making people pay attention and be interested in you than by faking a neurological disorder. If the fakers knew what it was really like being on the autism spectrum, I doubt they would be so eager to have it.

I view the original post as merely a clever rephrase of the tired old theme-- "you're not really as aspie unless you have an official diagnosis, all those who are self-diagnosed are merely 'posers' ". We get some form of that post at least once a week around here

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If a 15 year old has a few a few reality quirks I can let it slide.

<--- Not allowed a few reality quirks at 49?

An aspie/autistic life is a life of unbelievable loneliness, awkwardness and agony. How else are we supposed to feel when people approach us with their love or friend problems?

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I don't know who "they" are. Or why "they" are so many. Or why all those "they" fake AS.

If you are asking why there are so many faking Asperger's Syndrome, then I can only answer; I have never seen any statistics on how many people with AS have been caught by investigators for disability fraud. Have you?

Are Aspies so bereft of humanity that we cannot be friends to others?

Can we not learn from other people's kindness and generosity to us by emulating them and paying it forward?

Must we forever live shabby lives of victimhood?

What if you don't know what loneliness is because you cannot identify ever having felt it?

I won't deny that my symptoms have caused me distress over the years, but I do not believe that my life is an unending agonizing hell because I do not function like other people.

I'm sorry that's the way your life is at the moment. However, I don't think you can speak for all people with ASDs. As a parent of a child currently being assessed for autism, I find the idea of this being my daughter's future to be extremely upsetting. However, I also know that this is not the case for so many on here. But, I do understand what it's like for people to speak about 'problems' which I could only dream of having. I have fertility issues and I lost a friend due to her embarrassment, when she was so upset after trying for a second baby, for 2 months, without success. I didn't know what to say and she soon realised she'd been foolish, talking to me, of all people, about it. We still speak, but the friendship disappeared after that. I'm sorry if me speaking about my daughter and husband on here has caused any similar upset to you, but they are the biggest part of my life and most things I do IRL involve them. BTW I'm one of those folk who thinks they are on the spectrum too (not a faker, I'm not self diagnosed, I just suspect it).

i have never felt lonleliness. i am very happy with being in my own company.

when i am forced to mingle in groups of people, i start to feel lonely because everything about their "flavor of being" is so foreign to me.

i do not understand almost anything felt outside of my soul, and if i do crudely understand it, then i am usually confused as to why it matters to anyone.

reputation. who cares? as long as i am not beset by a group of vigilantes, everything is fine.
esteem. social esteem. what does that mean? i think it means that people think you are valuable. i do not care because i will never give myself to them, so they will never be able to sell me or otherwise use me to their advantage.

pride. things just happen, and my actions in response those happenings usually result in my safe passage through potential hardships, and i can not understand why i am better if i can cope. some people have different capacities than i do, and they may prevail in times where i may fail, so pride (bolstered feeling of self worth) is a completely futile feeling because everything is circumstantial.

the world's fastest runner may be "proud" of the fact that they can run faster than anyone else, but a false step down a set of stairs may render them quadruplegic.
do they then consider themselves worthless because the source of their pride is removed?

i do not need to be "proud" and feel hoisted up on the shoulders of the populace.

i just need to sneak into a crack of reality and live there like lichen on a 200 year old log that is never interrupted. in the deepest forest.


i am not sure how what i posted relates to the topic title, but i will press "submit" anyway.

You know, I'd like to add to what you had to say here. IQ tests aren't really a measure of how "smart" you are either. What they're supposed to measure is your ability to learn new s**t. But just like in any other scenario, you have absolutely NO way of learning something you've never been exposed to, and despite that, you might be perfectly capable of learning it, but you might need it explained to you in a different way. or maybe you can't read about it, but you have to see it and do it yourself, be involved in something real for all the data to stick to, before it stays in your head to where you can recall it later for a test. That is the fundamental flaw with IQ tests. All they are is another way of dividing everybody up into stupid categories so we can argue and fight and have a "who has the biggest cock" contest, basically. IQ is an entirely irrelevant number. Just like all standardized tests we get in school, an IQ test assumes that you were exposed to all the information. It also assumes you were given ample opportunity to understand it. THEN it assumes you gave a s**t when the information was introduced to you in the first place.

Like, I'm fairly good at math. Math comes easily to me. But I don't know jack s**t about any advanced math. Like, I know a bit about probability and statistics(by the way, statistics are mostly BS and can be skewed to suggest anything), but I never even took calculus. Algebra, Geometry, and statistics was about as far as I got. Why? Because I suck at learning math? Hell no, but because I had no damn interest in it. I might have a brain like a sponge that just absorbs all kinds of information, but because I'm not interested in the kind of information the test is about, it makes me look "stupid." And that's a crock of s**t.

It definitely is so much more than that, but if those can be part of what it is, so why would comments about people thinking it's possible to have asperger's based on those things upset you?

I would love to get an official diagnosis cuz then I'd know for sure, but what benefit would it really give me? I'm not taking meds that screw with my head, and I'm not sure what good talking to a psychiatrist would really do me. It would answer some questions with 100% certainty, but beyond that, it wouldn't do anything. And it isn't affordable. Plus I'm probably too old, and they'd think I'm too much of a functioning member of society to have it because unless they actually live my life, how can they have any idea how much my job and dealing with the general population bewilders, annoys, angers, and stresses me out every single day? I don't feel like a member of society, I feel like an alien observing and taking notes, but somehow by the time I go back to read my notes, their behavior has changed. I feel like Jane Goodall looking at a society of dumb apes trying to figure them out. And then at the same time these apes see what I'm doing and think I'm dumb because I don't quite speak the same language as they do. I'm like the main character from Idiocracy(if you've never seen it, go check it out. GREAT movie).

And I don't just think I have asperger's because of sensitivity to light, there's a whole shedload of reasons why but I'm not going to list them here. If you care at all, you can look up my posts; I've definitely mentioned them before.

Thank you for your 2 powerful and thought provoking posts. I agree with you about IQ tests and that is why won't even post mine because it really makes me look like a moron after seeing the scores of some of the others. I did terrible in school just barely getting by. I didn't even start school when I was supposed to because I had so many mental issues and graduated one year later. But, regardless of how bad I did in school, I was able to learn the things I wanted to, not what the school wanted me to after I got on my own and I'm better off because of it. When I'm ready I will learn and not before.

I did not really understand loneliness until hormones & puberty caught me unaware. Stupid biology! LOL
Well, ok not so funny. I was really hurting by age 19. Always felt I was different from others. Also was constantly getting the "Be stronger!" or "Apply yourself!" lines.
Oh well, like I said, not possible to be dxd with AS for me, as it was not a recognized condition at the time. And HFA? Did not even know there was such a thing. My example of an Autistic child was "Tommy" on St. Elsewhere. A very unfortunate character to use as a diagnostic measure. All the mis-conceptions rolled into one.

Still waiting to meet someone faking AS though. I will let you know if I find one, ok?

Sincerely,
Matthew

Because it makes life easier for them.

One girl even said that if Asperger's exist, everyone could be disabled. I was really close to... speaking my mind. And I rarely do that.

On top of Asperger's, I also fake depression and social anxiety. I'm really good at it. People really believe I have it.


Yeah, puberty was hell. I can't say I am happy now either, but I had some real breakdowns when I was 16/17.

Before puberty, I still had some self-confidence. It's the only thing I really miss.