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What do you think about the possibility of a cure or major treatment for Aspergers/ASD?
Opposed (male) 32%  32%  [ 43 ]
Opposed (female) 31%  31%  [ 42 ]
For (male) 17%  17%  [ 23 ]
For (female) 11%  11%  [ 15 ]
For (other gender/transsexual) 4%  4%  [ 6 ]
Opposed (other gender/transsexual) 4%  4%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 134

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01 Feb 2013, 12:49 pm

I agree with people here who are against neurosurgery.
As I said in a previous post here, I'm not really interested in curing myself, mostly because I have an high-functioning form that doesn't make my life impossible, and I'm not unhappy with my life.
I really think a cure for those with LFA should be found, but when I say "cure" I don't think about neurosurgery, even because I've grown up with the thought that neurosurgery is not safe, and if only a little thing during the "operation" goes wrong it can damage your brain in a terrible, irreparable way. I would never risk, I fear neurosurgery too much.



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01 Feb 2013, 1:39 pm

Maybe I'm just too dense, but I don't understand your poll:

Is the question "do you think it might be possible to cure AS for any of the listed groups?" Probably not.

Is the question "would you recommend a possible cure for any of the listed groups?" Probably not. And even if, it wouldn't be up to me to make any such recommendation, that would be simply presumptuous and idiotic.

Is the question "would you, if you'd belong to any of the following groups, take a cure for AS?" Probably not, how could I answer that question for a group not belonging to a specific group? Even for a group that I might belong to: wouldn't that be up to every individual? Again, any generalization imo would be simply presumptuous and idiotic.

I'm kind of lost here... what do you mean, OP?


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01 Feb 2013, 2:02 pm

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The funny part of that "Your side lost last November" bit, is that CockneyRebel lives in the UK.


Mick lives in Canada. :?


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01 Feb 2013, 2:30 pm

I've been painfully aware that my side has lost in the US for the past 10 weeks. I didn't need to be reminded. My side is still well and alive in Canada and the UK as well as many other countries. My side has lost in America, but it's winning in other countries and I'm not American either, so I've got to concentrate on what's going on in my own country.


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01 Feb 2013, 2:57 pm

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I've been painfully aware that my side has lost in the US for the past 10 weeks. I didn't need to be reminded. My side is still well and alive in Canada and the UK as well as many other countries. My side has lost in America, but it's winning in other countries and I'm not American either, so I've got to concentrate on what's going on in my own country.


To be honest, I'm against abortion unless it's likely that the mother will either die from the pregnancy, or if she is too emotionally scarred to carry around a life.

But still, a life is a life, regardless of rape.


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01 Feb 2013, 3:05 pm

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I've been painfully aware that my side has lost in the US for the past 10 weeks. I didn't need to be reminded. My side is still well and alive in Canada and the UK as well as many other countries. My side has lost in America, but it's winning in other countries and I'm not American either, so I've got to concentrate on what's going on in my own country.


To be honest, I'm against abortion unless it's likely that the mother will either die from the pregnancy, or if she is too emotionally scarred to carry around a life.

But still, a life is a life, regardless of rape.


Regardless of the fact that it's off-topic from the thread, I have similar ideals in terms of abortion.


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01 Feb 2013, 7:00 pm

How can you be 'opposed' to something that can never happen?

Finding a cure for aspergers/autism is about as likely as finding a cure for the sun setting each night.



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01 Feb 2013, 9:14 pm

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How can you be 'opposed' to something that can never happen?

Finding a cure for aspergers/autism is about as likely as finding a cure for the sun setting each night.


Stem cell treatment actually looks fairly promising. The theory is that something causes the white matter in the brain to have "gaps" that impair communication, and stem cells can restore the missing white matter.

It has been used in other countries to cure NVLD, which is closely related to and sometimes coterminus with Aspergers. PM me for details, and I can send you some reports. The results have not yet been published but soon will be.



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01 Feb 2013, 9:19 pm

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It's Not The Cure. It's Stopping The Vaccines That Do This To US....

One Word. Mercury


I don't believe that!

I was one of the first generation children (my father was a scientist) who didn't get vaccinised as a baby, one of the reasons were mercury. At this time nearly anyone even though about side effects about mercury.

And you know what the "funny" part is about this? 8O
I turned out autistic anyway! :lol:


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02 Feb 2013, 1:46 am

Mirror21 wrote:
Raziel wrote:
DizzleJWizzle wrote:
It's Not The Cure. It's Stopping The Vaccines That Do This To US....

One Word. Mercury


I don't believe that!

I was one of the first generation children (my father was a scientist) who didn't get vaccinised as a baby, one of the reasons were mercury. At this time nearly anyone even though about side effects about mercury.

And you know what the "funny" part is about this? 8O
I turned out autistic anyway! :lol:


Autism is Genetic. Simple. Honest. True.


Well, I never said it isn't! :wink:


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02 Feb 2013, 2:11 am

I very much dislike the term "Cure." It implies that anyone who is not NT is diseased, whereas we are only wired differently (as many have already pointed out). Also, "cure" implies that it is permanent, which would probably require surgery (lobotomy anyone?). Besides, while I can't speak for anyone other than myself, there is no way I would ever want to be NT except as a very temporary experiment. It has taken me a very long time to learn how to cope with things (heck I'm still learning, and probably always will be) and to suddenly be rewired? It'd be like being "reborn" and having to learn how the new me would work. I don't want to lose who I am. I'd rather people were more accepting of the fact that people will be different, and I don't think there really is anyone out there who can't be fit with some label.
And how about this, if people who just think differently were cured, where would all the people who think outside the box go? We would lose opportunities for great advancements without people like Einstein or Gates.
I was once on an anti-depressant that somehow took my ability to daydream away and I started freaking out. It was horrible, like a nightmare. Can you imagine suddenly not being able to think like you usually do? Like they took something from you and there was a hole that couldn't be filled anymore?
I can understand why people with MFA and LFA might be more inclined to it, but I really think people just want to be understood rather than changed. I don't think people want to conform to those who pick on them, but rather have those who pick on them understand. And stop.
Curing autism/aspergers wouldn't fix the overall problem, I think.
(purely speculation, as I cannot speak for everyone)


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02 Feb 2013, 4:23 am

If I could become typical, I surely would choose to be that. I don't understand people who say they wouldn't want to be cured. Maybe they have good relationships with their family and have a nice circle of supportive friends. I have nothing. I just want to belong.



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02 Feb 2013, 8:23 am

I'm for letting people decide if they want to be "cured" or not.

It would be nice if the option was available and people could choose for themselves.

I would never force anything on anyone, however.


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02 Feb 2013, 12:17 pm

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If I could become typical, I surely would choose to be that. I don't understand people who say they wouldn't want to be cured. Maybe they have good relationships with their family and have a nice circle of supportive friends. I have nothing. I just want to belong.


I'm really curious to see if my speculation might be right, so if you could indulge me.
If you could "belong", if you had a large support group, if people treated you better and maybe understood you better, would you want to change who you are? I mean, do you dislike who you are and how you work or are you just tired of being alone/etc? (I really hope that makes sense)


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02 Feb 2013, 12:28 pm

I put for because I couldn't find an option for me.

I want for a cure for those who want one


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02 Feb 2013, 7:11 pm

kamiyu910 wrote:
Arrow wrote:
If I could become typical, I surely would choose to be that. I don't understand people who say they wouldn't want to be cured. Maybe they have good relationships with their family and have a nice circle of supportive friends. I have nothing. I just want to belong.


I'm really curious to see if my speculation might be right, so if you could indulge me.
If you could "belong", if you had a large support group, if people treated you better and maybe understood you better, would you want to change who you are? I mean, do you dislike who you are and how you work or are you just tired of being alone/etc? (I really hope that makes sense)


A cure is more likely than the situation you describe.

I think most people who favor a cure wouldn't feel as strongly if people actually understood and accepted them. Sadly, this is not going to happen. Even finding someone to date who is actually compatible and isn't just a whatever compromise choice is very difficult, or impossible, even for those who have looks, jobs, cars, futures, whatever. This is true for autistic men as well as women.

And the gender ratio for HFA/Aspergers sucks.