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Personality Crisis & self-delusion are two reasons which come to mind.

eg. If you are a social outcast in life; a complete failure. Using autism as an excuse would not only give you a sense of belonging to a group, but would give you a nice excuse not to face up to the real fact that you are a loser.

I think those who haven't been diagnosed, should merely lurk. Refrain from posting or voting.

Well that would leave you out of the loop, along with the majority of people here.

Uh, just because I have AS doesn't mean that I'm not a loser. If I were stronger, I could will myself to face the things that I can't. That's what courage is about.

Also, it's easy enough for any of us to say that we've been diagnosed.
We're just going to have to accept that there will be a few folk who just fancy feeling special.

Plus, as I said before, I know someone who has the DX, but I'm pretty certain that they aren't. Not only was the diagnosis done very quickly, but probably too young, and the kid just doesn't seem to show many traits. He's begining to question it as well. Psychiatrists make mistakes (mine barely understands AS) and some are just incompetent.

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Of course not.
Uh, where did i say it did?
edit: And, of course, you may also be a loser. (No Offence: just logic)

My original post was just one possible reason about why an NT would 'fake.'

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I just want to make certain that everyone understands what I am. :&

Actually Kosmonaut, I think most here started out as a social outcast and many felt they were a complete failure in life. Many people in here went through years of thinking or believing (because they were told) that they had ADD, ADHD, Depression, etc. and that explained it all. How many talk about going to those groups before finding out about AS and not quite fitting in or not having it explain everything. I think it's pretty common to go through a period of this self searching before you find an answer. That seems to be a trend on here anyway (even with some of the younger crowd). So, I don't know that I would quickly go to that conclusion. It would probably circle back to there is something going on with them even though this might not be it.

In which case when they figure that out, they will look for a better fit.

And remember that what you wrote, has probably been applied to many in here in their lifetimes even after a diagnosis of AS. Those kinds of words can cause a lot of pain as many here can attest. (And I get accused of being harsh and abrasive myself all the time, so I'm not pointing fingers at you, just at the words. I'd be watching for that for myself. I think we all have a tendency to say these things. Maybe that's just a human frailty.)


As to the diagnosis manual, I thought AS was only added in 1994? I would have been 35 (not that anyone cares). Steve K and Fuzzy, wouldn't you have actually been older then? Before that, they would have been diagnosing off Wing's theory and I don't think many did that, but maybe they did. My brother isn't diagnosed for anything and has never been in the system. He's classic. No friends, picked on, intense interests that he obsesses over, failed marriages, lack of outward signs of empathy, etc. He can't find anyone to listen to his rambling monologues about his interests so he sits in front of the television or computer reeling off fact after fact after fact out loud. I used to think he was schizophrenic, now I know better because looking back it's always been the running monologue about his special interest. Even we can't communicate with him. Yet, he holds a job (and always has by the way) and lives on his own despite the mess of his personal life and his ongoing loneliness. Just because he's never been in the system doesn't make him NT. It actually says nothing beyond the fact that he found a job where they would put up with him because his technical knowledge is much higher than normal (as is his IQ). If he were to get diagnosed for anything, it would change nothing to me. He'd still be exactly the same as he is now, he'd just have a word made up by some people slapped onto him to define him. That word has no meaning other than the one those so-called experts give it and others accept. It's still just a word. He would still be acting just the same even if some "expert" called it cupcake syndrome.

Last, the button resetting to Asperger's Diagnosed...mine does that every time I change my avatar. You have to go back in and reset it after you set your avatar. If you do it at the same time, it won't apply it for some reason. This is the only time I've noticed it, but it might happen at other times. It's just a bug. I found out mine had been reset to Asperger's - diagnosed when someone asked me after I said in a post I wasn't. The next time I changed my avatar, same thing happened. So just go back and reselect the radio button after you change your avatar and it should be fine.

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I am not finger pointing; and do not mean to cause people offence - especially when my words aren't 'aimed' at them.

Merely answering a question which was asked by halle_bopp. No doubt there are other answers ( better answers.)

Just to clarify.

My profile keeps setting to 'Diagnosed' when I haven't even looked at my profile for ages.

Faking anything is a waste.

But, frankly, I don't think that most people who may be mistaken about their self-diagnosis are faking anything. They are just trying to find a label that could explain whatever problems they have, which may or may not be caused by AS. For example, I don't think that a person who didn't rock before diagnosing themselves with AS would suddenly start doing so afterwards. But if they do something else, like say picking skin off their fingers or rubbing things obsessively on their face, they might think, aha, so perhaps it is my AS that has been causing me to do this. I am simplifying greatly but I hope you see my point.

I don't know whether I have AS or not, but I fit the profile in many ways, and if my guess is correct, it would explain a lot about all the things that have gone haywire while I was trying hard, and failing, to understand why.

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Then you must be pretty darn certain!

It was added in 1994? I was out of school. I was 22 at the time. I was an able bodied young man the last type of person anyone had any interest in slapping a label on. It was another 12 years until I heard of AS.

WOW! Maybe that is an NT thing. Personally, I never understood that way of thinking. It IS interesting that I find some comfort here, but that comes from so many being so much like I am. I'm not some wierd NT, I'm a more normal AS.

Hey, people say they like me, etc... TWO people want to find a new job for me, and one is just so I can move to CA so we could be closer. So I'm not a COMPLETE failure there. I have a nice job where the TAXES I am paying make a good salary for many.
But you know.... I wouldn't even take solice in a label if it didn't fit, or didn't fit others.

HECK, in a way, I feel STUPID here! I don't have a memory that can learn ANYTHING after I've heard it once. I guess my whole memory works mainly on association and logic. If it is logical or reminds me of something, I can remember it INSTANTLY, and it STICKS! Otherwise, it may take a while. I ALSO don't have the fantastic math skills. I don't have fantastic drawing or music capability. Some of that I DID have, or show a talent for when I was younger, but I don't think I was a prodigy in any of them. In short, at least at first glance, people might think I am normal if they just looked at abilities the average person sees in everyday life.

I ALSO don't have a lot of the really bad things some here do, like self harming, TOTAL shutdown on the slightest stress(With me it is partial after more stress), etc.... In other words, I could appear normal in a normal everyday brief meeting.

Still, I have noticed a number of diagnosed people here that are like I am.

Steve

Ahhh Sorry about that. I probably missed halle_bopp's question.

Youngster! LOL