anyone too aware of nonverbal cues and fakeness

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kazma
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25 Feb 2014, 7:57 am

Ive began to notice that when i take the time to pay attention i feel like i become extremely sensitive to peoples nonverbal cues and also when someone is being fake ie using "social mask" it makes me feel very uncomfortable anyone else ever experience anything like this



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25 Feb 2014, 8:53 am

Yes. That is what it is.



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25 Feb 2014, 8:56 am

It depends on the nonverbal social cue. If someone constantly has a frown on their face then that's something i can take note of.



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25 Feb 2014, 10:42 am

I tend to notice fake easily, but what were really noticing is our inability to relate to the NT. I also read into everything because I have no natural response or reception to social norms. As soon as I lose grasp of nonverbal cues I always default to "this person is angry; probably because of me."



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25 Feb 2014, 12:32 pm

I can subconsciously recognise non-verbal cues. But sometimes I get paranoid and think I see a facial expression that I know of but wasn't sure if I did see it or not. Like I always worry that people make the ''oh God go away!'' face when I go up to them and speak, and I feel hurt. I know that face when I see it, but because I have low self-esteem, I start imagining that I see people giving themselves or each other the face even when they might not at all.


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25 Feb 2014, 12:36 pm

I can kind of tell if someone is faking like a laugh or showing interest in what I'm interested in. It really irritates me. It's like, just be honest.



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25 Feb 2014, 1:18 pm

If I'm hyperfocused on it. But, most of the time, I don't have the kind of attention that it takes to process all of the sensory involved. I notice when someone is just trying to be polite. But, I only can clearly interpret two cues when something is socially wrong. If tone and expression don't match, it's a red flag, even if I can't tell you *what* is wrong. Or, if someone is getting aggressive. That might just be self-preservation, because I notice that for once, I'll mirror the behavior. Probably why I've always felt more equipped to handle a physical fight rather than a verbal one. That is despite my short stature.



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25 Feb 2014, 1:25 pm

I'm blind to all this. I only know something is fakeness after it has happened. That is what manipulation is. You don't know until afterwards.


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25 Feb 2014, 3:19 pm

I just tend to be cynical of everybody I meet in person. That is a masking and overcompensation, It does not mean I really know what is going on and can be just as damaging because I am seeing ulterior motives in nice people.

Online it is a bit different. I will try and not divulge any information that can give my identity away. But I tend to assume innocence because for most conversations the person can do no more then hurt my feelings for a little while.


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25 Feb 2014, 3:30 pm

Usually I can tell when someone is being deceitfully fake to me just by looking at their behavior. However, I can't tell every non-verbal cue since they could be fore different purposes. Also, from what I've experienced so far, you can't be judgmental on people just because of these cues or call people out. That is why I don't get directly involved until I have 100% affirmation that they are doing something against me behind my back.



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25 Feb 2014, 4:14 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I just tend to be cynical of everybody I meet in person. That is a masking and overcompensation, It does not mean I really know what is going on and can be just as damaging because I am seeing ulterior motives in nice people.

Online it is a bit different. I will try and not divulge any information that can give my identity away. But I tend to assume innocence because for most conversations the person can do no more then hurt my feelings for a little while.


Wow, that's pretty accurate of how I used to be! The doctors called it "bipolar paranoia" and threw pills at me. I tried to explain how I had been repeatedly manipulated, used, and humiliated. They asserted that I was just young and naïve, and those instances just compounded a paranoia that was always there.

I'm glad you mentioned it. I mean, now I am far more reserved and I won't offer anything more than the other person. It saves me some hurt, but it does get a little lonely on this side.



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25 Feb 2014, 5:03 pm

emmyris wrote:
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I just tend to be cynical of everybody I meet in person. That is a masking and overcompensation, It does not mean I really know what is going on and can be just as damaging because I am seeing ulterior motives in nice people.

Online it is a bit different. I will try and not divulge any information that can give my identity away. But I tend to assume innocence because for most conversations the person can do no more then hurt my feelings for a little while.


Wow, that's pretty accurate of how I used to be! The doctors called it "bipolar paranoia" and threw pills at me. I tried to explain how I had been repeatedly manipulated, used, and humiliated. They asserted that I was just young and naïve, and those instances just compounded a paranoia that was always there.

I'm glad you mentioned it. I mean, now I am far more reserved and I won't offer anything more than the other person. It saves me some hurt, but it does get a little lonely on this side.


I am old and naive. Before I was diagnosed with AS I just thought I was being realistic. Now that I am diagnosed I understand what has been happening and I am trying to lesson the cynicism, because I realize the bad effects the overcompensation has had on my life. but I do not want to lesson it to much because I also understand I am not realistic but naive because my filters are weak. It is confusing and difficult at times but I am glad I know.

Similar concept with eye contact people stare to overcompensate for eye contact not bieng natural.


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25 Feb 2014, 5:41 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I can subconsciously recognise non-verbal cues. But sometimes I get paranoid and think I see a facial expression that I know of but wasn't sure if I did see it or not. Like I always worry that people make the ''oh God go away!'' face when I go up to them and speak, and I feel hurt. I know that face when I see it, but because I have low self-esteem, I start imagining that I see people giving themselves or each other the face even when they might not at all.

I'm a lot like this. I feel as though I'm very good at picking up on non-verbal cues, but because the cues I pick up on are way more often negative than positive, I think perhaps I'm "sensing what I expect" rather than what actually is. I'm well aware that I'm a pessimist...I'm just not sure if that means I see the reality of things, or see things overly negatively.