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25 Mar 2014, 5:28 pm

I would probably be a 1.


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26 Mar 2014, 4:47 pm

1, I would think.


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26 Mar 2014, 11:26 pm

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My opinion on the system, Really, the old DSM 4 had severity levels as well, it just used different names instead of numbers 1, 2 and 3. My opinion almost one year later is they just should have refined the old system rather then scrapping it and starting over since I think most people diagnosed with Asperger's would score in the level 1 and 2 areas with those with classic autism scouring 3 in most things however I find the wording very confusing and blending in the current 3 level system. The old way of Asperger's for mid-high functioning and Classical autism for those who could not talk or do much of anything independently was easy to understand for me. I haven't been revaluated however I think I would score between 1-2 on everything.


Classic autism includes people described as high functioning as well as those described as low functioning. "Classic autism" previously meant being diagnosed with autism instead of PDD-NOS or Asperger's Syndrome, and the literal actual classic autism (as in Kanner's work) described children who would be described as high functioning today.

Also the "old way of Asperger's for mid-high functioning and classical autism for those who could not talk or do much of anything independently" never existed.


Yes your right however I read often that many people who had the major delays as young children and later caught up to what we would consider high functioning would often get re-evaluated as having AS anyway, in my opinion that is how the DSM 5 should have been changed to, to include any high functioning autistic as having the AS label. I think what the old system was as I will better phrase as "unofficially morphing into" was a better and more understandable system then what we have now.



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27 Mar 2014, 12:05 am

I would say I am a 1 for Social, I would say 0 for RRB, I require no support for this, I only have minor issues with smells and minor vocal ticks. I don't have any specific special interest. I have very broad and general interest.


I have spent my whole life never getting any type of support for any of these issues though, and manage to do ok, I have a degree, good full time job, and home.



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27 Mar 2014, 12:56 am

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Yes your right however I read often that many people who had the major delays as young children and later caught up to what we would consider high functioning would often get re-evaluated as having AS anyway, in my opinion that is how the DSM 5 should have been changed to, to include any high functioning autistic as having the AS label. I think what the old system was as I will better phrase as "unofficially morphing into" was a better and more understandable system then what we have now.


I disagree. I don't know that the "Asperger's" label did anyone any favors, beyond the "Aspie" identity. The diagnostic entity was a good thing and meant that people would be diagnosed whereas before they wouldn't. What you describe is actually one of the reasons AS as a diagnostic entity separate from autism was a problem.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:58 am

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I would say I am a 1 for Social, I would say 0 for RRB, I require no support for this, I only have minor issues with smells and minor vocal ticks. I don't have any specific special interest. I have very broad and general interest.


I have spent my whole life never getting any type of support for any of these issues though, and manage to do ok, I have a degree, good full time job, and home.

I don't want to set off any controversy or negative feelings, but I'm interested. Why do you think you were diagnosed with ASD, and do you agree or disagree with the diagnosis?



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27 Mar 2014, 8:37 am

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If you were not diagnosed with classic autism and were diagnosed as Aspergers or something else before how is your diagnosis changed?

This is something I'd like to have an answer for. Do I need to be reassessed? Is the diagnosis automatically updated? If I need to fill in any official forms or anything, what should I write? Basically, what happens to my DSM-IV diagnosis? Is it still valid? I'd be grateful for any information on this. I was diagnosed under the DSM-IV with "moderate Asperger's Disorder" so I suppose that would mean ASD level 1, possibly 2 in some areas, but really I'm not sure. I'm not getting much support at the moment, but feel that I need it.


Could someone please help me with this? I read that your previous diagnosis still stands, but you should call it ASD, is that true? How would I know my ASD level?



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27 Mar 2014, 10:25 am

I guesstimate that I would be a 1.5. I'd be somewhere between a 1 and a 2. The number system is very confusing. I think they should have just stuck with the labels.


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27 Mar 2014, 10:32 am

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jenisautistic wrote:
If you were not diagnosed with classic autism and were diagnosed as Aspergers or something else before how is your diagnosis changed?

This is something I'd like to have an answer for. Do I need to be reassessed? Is the diagnosis automatically updated? If I need to fill in any official forms or anything, what should I write? Basically, what happens to my DSM-IV diagnosis? Is it still valid? I'd be grateful for any information on this. I was diagnosed under the DSM-IV with "moderate Asperger's Disorder" so I suppose that would mean ASD level 1, possibly 2 in some areas, but really I'm not sure. I'm not getting much support at the moment, but feel that I need it.


Could someone please help me with this? I read that your previous diagnosis still stands, but you should call it ASD, is that true? How would I know my ASD level?


You would need to get re-evaluated for new ASD, for needing services (possibly intensive support). Also you will get the level. Many still use the old labels casually and the DSM-5 does not have to be used.


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27 Mar 2014, 11:47 am

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DVCal wrote:
I would say I am a 1 for Social, I would say 0 for RRB, I require no support for this, I only have minor issues with smells and minor vocal ticks. I don't have any specific special interest. I have very broad and general interest.


I have spent my whole life never getting any type of support for any of these issues though, and manage to do ok, I have a degree, good full time job, and home.

I don't want to set off any controversy or negative feelings, but I'm interested. Why do you think you were diagnosed with ASD, and do you agree or disagree with the diagnosis?


I am positive I am on spectrum. I don't have a very formal diagnosis like many, mine was based on three 45 minute sessions talking to a psychologist. She said I definitly had some traits of being on the spectrum, especially with the social issues. A more formal diagnosis would have required expensive testing, so I decided based on what she said I was on the spectrum.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:46 pm

DVCal wrote:
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DVCal wrote:
I would say I am a 1 for Social, I would say 0 for RRB, I require no support for this, I only have minor issues with smells and minor vocal ticks. I don't have any specific special interest. I have very broad and general interest.


I have spent my whole life never getting any type of support for any of these issues though, and manage to do ok, I have a degree, good full time job, and home.

I don't want to set off any controversy or negative feelings, but I'm interested. Why do you think you were diagnosed with ASD, and do you agree or disagree with the diagnosis?


I am positive I am on spectrum. I don't have a very formal diagnosis like many, mine was based on three 45 minute sessions talking to a psychologist. She said I definitly had some traits of being on the spectrum, especially with the social issues. A more formal diagnosis would have required expensive testing, so I decided based on what she said I was on the spectrum.


I remember you mentioning before that your main issues were social; do you think the new diagnosis of Social Communication Disorder would be a better fit for you?


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28 Mar 2014, 3:04 am

Lumi wrote:
Nesf wrote:
Nesf wrote:
jenisautistic wrote:
If you were not diagnosed with classic autism and were diagnosed as Aspergers or something else before how is your diagnosis changed?

This is something I'd like to have an answer for. Do I need to be reassessed? Is the diagnosis automatically updated? If I need to fill in any official forms or anything, what should I write? Basically, what happens to my DSM-IV diagnosis? Is it still valid? I'd be grateful for any information on this. I was diagnosed under the DSM-IV with "moderate Asperger's Disorder" so I suppose that would mean ASD level 1, possibly 2 in some areas, but really I'm not sure. I'm not getting much support at the moment, but feel that I need it.


Could someone please help me with this? I read that your previous diagnosis still stands, but you should call it ASD, is that true? How would I know my ASD level?


You would need to get re-evaluated for new ASD, for needing services (possibly intensive support). Also you will get the level. Many still use the old labels casually and the DSM-5 does not have to be used.

Thanks, I see. That's bad news, there's no way I could afford to have another evaluation. But more recently I read that there's a caveat which states that those with a formal diagnosis shouldn't need to be re-evaluated or take any action, the diagnosis automatically changes to ASD. Perhaps it varies from country to country and service to service.