Suicidal Ideation--10x as likely if you have Asperger's?

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Happy Thanksgiving (or is it Columbus Day?), everyone.

I just found this one on the news pages of Psych Central; what do you think?
http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/10/13 ... 76016.html

Not surpising: especially for old undiagnosed AS.

I actually thought it was much worse than that

I'm not surprised either. Hopefully, like it says in the article, services will be increased.
I agree that there is under-reporting of depression by people with Aspergers. Many don't seek help because of the difficulty of speaking with a therapist or even making the appointment.
As well as an increase in services, there needs to be a change in how these services are accessed and delivered for people with AS.

I believe it.

I used to have passively suicidal thoughts quite frequently. I haven't had any for more than 18 months now. I'm certain that they were caused by my salicylate acid sensitivity, as once I detoxed the acids, it was bye bye to depressive & suicidal thoughts. Good riddance!

Feel free to read the thread in my sig for plenty more info.

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"Two-thirds (66 percent) of the respondents reported suicidal thoughts, 35 percent reported plans or attempts at suicide, and 31 percent reported depression".

While not a surprise I feel completely sick to my stomach.

We all need to be mindful of this reality as we post or reply on this board.

The moderators need to listen when people here complain they feel stigmatized or bullied and if need be ignore Alex's "Let them be stupid" policy. There is just too much at stake.

There is a popular school of thought here that the most vile hate speech needs to be allowed to expose what ?they? think. Others advise people having problems toughen up, grow a pair etc. This tends to come from people who have had some success in the NT world through pure will power and pain and want to share what worked for them, some feel resentment at what they feel as laziness. We need to stop assuming because we can everybody else can. The capability might be there someday but right now a lot of us are too fragile to handle the rough and tumble of the mainstream internet.

A lot of the neurodiversity movement is of made up of people who got diagnosed in middle age. For a lot of us it was a positive, even joyful experience. We need to remind ourselves that many here got diagnosed early and know who they are, and don't like it. They have a large part of their life of ahead on the spectrum. We need to take into consideration that while we have grown an identity separate from having friends for most young adults self worth revolves around having friends having sex etc. And there are extrovert aspies with a basic need of socialization and poor ability to get it. I do believe a lot of our problems are not Aspergers per say but discrimination and ignorance towered us. For many they believe it's the mostly autism that is making there life hell. We talk about wanting NT's to just listen to us. We need to just listen and not invalidate to what our fellow specrimites who hate their autism/aspergers lives are about.

As mentioned before somehow we need society to spend a lot more on understating Adult autism and providing services for us.

As for those of you thinking about suicide I have no great words of wisdom. All I can say is I do enjoy having these online conversations with you I do care and I really would like for you to stick around

I am completely not surprised at all about what this article says either.

Not surprising at all. I wonder why they're surprised that the "lifetime" suicidal ideation was higher than the (presumably current?) depression, though: just because you've been depressed doesn't mean currently are - or even if it's depression in one's lifetime, feeling suicidal can be a momentary thing - for instance, in a meltdown - but depression is more lasting.

It's higher for people with AS. It's also higher for people in all kinds of tough situations, including being gay or trans for example, just because of the social rejection involved and the difficulty finding one's place in the world.

I don't think it's directly related to AS. I think it's related to the stress of growing up with a lot of pressure from the world around you, from other people and even from your own senses.

If suicidal ideation were caused directly by AS, then the worse your autism the more likely you'd be suicidal, but it seems to be unrelated. In fact, it's the people with subtle ASDs who get the most pressure from other people and the most rejection from society.

If you have depression and ASD, your depression was not made inevitable by your ASD, nor is it unbeatable because you have an ASD. They aren't nearly as strongly linked as that. People with ASDs can and do live happy, fulfilling lives.

I read that the rate is 28 times higher but tha tmight pertain to autistics in a particular age range.

I recently came across a similar article on the subject on http://www.sciencedaily.com/.

My first thought was, ?that?s not surprising?.

Interestingly, I always figured that everyone at some point or another had suicidal thoughts. I mentioned that to my wife. She responded that she never, ever had such a thought pass through her mind. I was a bit blown away.

I agree with this. I was diagnosed as an adult, and prior to the diagnosis I didn't know what was wrong with me. All my life I've been told it's "my fault" for the way I am, and that I "need to change". This was before anyone knew I had Aspergers.

It did have an impact on me. I felt like all the problems in my head were my fault and that I'm just being lazy and stupid for not changing. I started to feel like I will never succeed in life with my plans or dreams. Which then progressed into depression, and actual suicide attempts.

The mind is awful.

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No point leaving my feelings out in the open for all to see .

It was here for 24 hours and not one person commented on what I had to say .......

Can't say I'm remotely surprised. I'm suffering from suicide ideation myself.