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25 Oct 2014, 2:38 pm

I've read your post. You are experiencing therapeutic abuse. You are in danger. These are serious offenses that need to be dealt with at once. First, stop cease and desist all contact with this therapist now. If your therapist should further initiate any contact with you or those you know, contact the police. At this time, you may initiate a medical practice suit. First contact a lawyer (employment law) and contact the medical board to submit your complaints. For public record, you may check your therapists medical licensing status an how they are funded.

OP, without too much detail here, I am a survivor of therapeutic abuse. The clinician who hurt me is currently being investigated and I've been in close contact with lawyers. The statute of limitations is a factor as to why this clinician is not facing criminal charges, but there are still real consequences for her. Imperatively, therapeutic abuse must be dealt with or it will escalate. Your therapist may be hurting others and will continue unless it's dealt with properly.

For general advice: if any therapist should ever inappropriately touch you, is exposing him/herself, takes personal items from you (e.g., financial information), is inflicting racial or sexual comments, is being coercive and forceful, is putatively under the influence of drug or alcohol at the office, etc. call emergency services (dial 911). If you feel in danger at any time, immediately pick up your belongings and walk out the door. Never go back. Report what happened.

Remember: we all have human civil rights. To not tolerate being violated. OP, you are of legal age so nobody can force you.


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25 Oct 2014, 5:04 pm

OP. I feel so sorry for you. JSBach lover nailed it for me. You need to go to a social worker who is specialised in dealing with autism spectrum disorders and please take your father with you, who needs help as well.
I think I can work out the approach of your current therapist from your description, which is to change your behaviour by making you so disgusted with yourself, that you look at yourself as someone you don't want to be and hence change into something more akind to the sort of person your father wants you to be.
The reason the above approach won't work, is that to change one's behaviour you need to have respect for the person who is trying to change you. You don't have to like that person, but you need to respect them.
All my life, the people who have changed the way I behave, are the people I love and respect. You obviously don't respect your current therapist. I don't like him either from your description of him.
Hope you have the courage to talk to your father and tell him that you are no longer willing to continue seeing this therapist. You are however willing to investigate other alternatives, namely seeing a social worker specialised in autism spectrum disorders and taking your father along with you.



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25 Oct 2014, 5:18 pm

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Your best bet would be to get a micro recorder and record what is transpiring and if indeed this person is doing what you claiming he is doing I'm sure there could be some ethics violations. Furthermore if your not ordered by any courts to see this person and if you are over 18 YOU have the right to leave and discontinue any future appointments.


This. Please, don't let him do this to you. You don't deserve it. Is there any way you can record and report him?


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25 Oct 2014, 5:50 pm

I think we might have unintentionally overwhelmed Girlwithaspergers. I think I have been part of this problem, I apologize.

To Girlwithaspergers. Yes you are in a tough spot but you do have something going for you a lot of posters don't. You know you are being wronged and have not internalized what you are being constantly told. This shows you have great inner strength and character. This is no small advantage for you.

You need to know you are not alone. While we are not psychically there we are real people who understand and are rooting for you to find a way through to better times.


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25 Oct 2014, 7:49 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I think we might have unintentionally overwhelmed Girlwithaspergers. I think I have been part of this problem, I apologize.

To Girlwithaspergers. Yes you are in a tough spot but you do have something going for you a lot of posters don't. You know you are being wronged and have not internalized what you are being constantly told. This shows you have great inner strength and character. This is no small advantage for you.

You need to know you are not alone. While we are not psychically there we are real people who understand and are rooting for you to find a way through to better times.


Very well said, ASPartOfMe. I wish you the best of outcomes, Girlwithaspergers. I hope you feel comfortable sharing how it all works out for you.


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25 Oct 2014, 9:05 pm

First things first, stop seeing this therapist they don't own you and you are not obligated to keep seeing them even if they don't terminate you as a patient, you can terminate with them to or you can even just stop going and just find a new therapist. Aside from that though you should report them for this nasty behavior, if you do see them again I'd suggest getting some kind of video of this behavior for use as evidence so his lying wont work. Are you his only 'patient'?


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25 Oct 2014, 9:09 pm

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I have read your post several times... and I think your therapist wants you to get angry. You said that you have entirely changed your personality three times just trying to get him off your back. Isn't it possible that he wants you to see that you are not a slave to your "condition?" Asperger's isn't a curse. Having it doesn't mean you have to be anxious, or depressed, or unemployed, forever. People... regular folks face up to their anxieties and overcome them every day. But then millions and millions of regular folks, NTs, succumb to their worries and anxieties and take all kinds of meds to "feel better."

You are young. You have your whole life ahead of you. I think your doc is trying to put you in touch with your POWER... your power to change, and he doesn't want to just stroke your anxieties and comfort you... like the other 99.9% of helping professionals.


That is BS, what the therapist is doing is definitely abuse if its what is described in the OP....calling the patient 'ret*d'? how is that trying to help put them in touch with any inner strength? Most of what was described is stuff that is unethical for therapists to do...


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25 Oct 2014, 9:13 pm

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Big difference between "Aw, you poor darling, blah blah blah" and telling her that what she says is "nonsense, ret*d, BS, etc.". If you think the latter is even slightly appropriate, I hope you never, ever work with people. Ever.

Her therapist is refusing to feel sorry for her, in my opinion. He wants her to have courage... be brave, and face down her demons.


Surely, then, a better way of putting things would be "be brave, have courage, face down your demons!".

Maybe... maybe not. This therapist is not going to buy into her misery. She is going to have to come from somewhere else to reach him. He is forcing her to feel it. Being "nice" for one second will shatter that whole... Gestalt.


Well then they should not be a therapist...therapists are supposed to help people with their problems, 'not buying into the patients misery' is not a good approach for that at all as some validation of what the patient is going through is necessary to provide proper support and treatment. Therapists are supposed to be more nice than mean or at least neutral I mean there probably is a such thing as too nice of therapists that need to be more neutral but that would still be better than an abusive one.


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25 Oct 2014, 11:16 pm

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Therapists are supposed to be more nice than mean or at least neutral I mean there probably is a such thing as too nice of therapists that need to be more neutral but that would still be better than an abusive one.

There are many different schools of psychology. The ones that most of us are familiar with are the ones, where we go in and tell the "doctor" what hurts, and he says, "Aw you poor dear. Here are some pills to take. Make a follow up for two weeks, and we'll see how you are feeling." He stands up with a big smile and moves you towards the door.

But our OP sounds like she may be experiencing a much more intense kind of psychotherapy. She's furious with her father, and her therapist. She says things like, "He accuses me of faking and I've changed my entire personality about 3 times just to shut him up to no avail." She's trying to manipulate her therapist and it isn't working. She's pretending, and fussing and fuming, threatening, and blaming him. He is waiting for a genuine relationship to begin. Just my opinion of course... we have very little to go on... and no one agrees with me.

Notice (if you are interested) how she says he complains about her looks, and her clothes, and her possessions, and how she is presenting herself. This is transference. She cares about his opinion... she cares a whole lot. Transference... feeling transference is exactly like falling in love. It makes you karaaazy... because it hurts so much. Her relationship with this doctor mimics her relationship with her father. Just my opinion please... she asked for one, and Im giving.


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25 Oct 2014, 11:30 pm

tall-p wrote:
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Therapists are supposed to be more nice than mean or at least neutral I mean there probably is a such thing as too nice of therapists that need to be more neutral but that would still be better than an abusive one.

There are many different schools of psychology. The ones that most of us are familiar with are the ones, where we go in and tell the "doctor" what hurts, and he says, "Aw you poor dear. Here are some pills to take. Make a follow up for two weeks, and we'll see how you are feeling." He stands up with a big smile and moves you towards the door.

But our OP sounds like she may be experiencing a much more intense kind of psychotherapy. She's furious with her father, and her therapist. She says things like, "He accuses me of faking and I've changed my entire personality about 3 times just to shut him up to no avail." She's trying to manipulate her therapist and it isn't working. She's pretending, and fussing and fuming, threatening, and blaming him. He is waiting for a genuine relationship to begin. Just my opinion of course... we have very little to go on... and no one agrees with me.

Notice (if you are interested) how she says he complains about her looks, and her clothes, and her possessions, and how she is presenting herself. This is transference. She cares about his opinion... she cares a whole lot. Transference... feeling transference is exactly like falling in love. It makes you karaaazy... because it hurts so much. Her relationship with this doctor mimics her relationship with her father. Just my opinion please... she asked for one, and Im giving.


No kind of legal psychotherapy involves abusive language like name-calling, berating or accusing them of things when they admit things to the therapist. Even if the patient was without a doubt purposely trying to 'manipulate' that kind of treatment is inexcusable, doesn't sound like there is anything could that would come out of this psychotherapy.

Also I think you shouldn't try to psychoanalyze people over the internet, I mean those seem like fairly normal things people complain about actually and the personality changing sounds like it either has to do with mental health issues or she feels so pressured she's litterally attempted changing her personality to get some relief from all that pressure.

From the sound of it the therapist is a lot like her father, in my opinion this is not a good thing....they sound like egotistical sociopaths and are liable to make any mental issues she has worse. Doctors don't have to say 'aww poor thing' but they certianly should not say 'you always come to me with this BS you ret*d.' Especially in therapy there is probably some kind of abuse going on if the therapist is doing things to put the patient on edge, make them uncomfortable and things like that.


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28 Oct 2014, 11:23 am

We have not heard from Girlwithaspergers in a few days. Do you have any updates to share with us? I hope you have made the right decision to leave this therapist since you are 18 and can do so without parental permission.



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29 Oct 2014, 7:27 am

Unfortunately, no decision has been made and my family is giving me a hard time. I am having a lot of problems that this guy won't help w/


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