Not showing proper deference to authority figures?

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i was also diagnosed with opposition defiant disorder when i was about 8. it did not progress to antisocial personality disorder thankfully.

i never felt that the commands of people who tried to herd me were worthy of obedience. to me it seemed that i was superior to them in every way and that they dared to try to tell me what to do was just a waste of their energy.

i ignored the directives of everyone when i was a small child.

it was not a philosophical opinion i had, it was a flaw in my response to authoritarian exertions.
i somehow enjoyed refusing to do what the teachers told me to do. the more strenuous and cranky they became, the more focused i was on annoying them by my stubborn refusal to accede to any of their demands.

if they laid a finger on me, then it was "on for young and old" as far as i was concerned and i was eager to tempt them into assaulting me for some reason that i can not clearly determine.

it is just an inherent resistance and almost aggression i have for authority that impinges upon my autonomy i guess.

sometimes, i even feel like seeking potential authoritarian confrontation in order to blithely affront them by my leaden impermeability to their efforts.

it gets physical if they try to physically restrain me and i seem to have no reverence for their dignity when i confront them.

but nowadays, i just do my thing at home alone and i do not want to walk in their world any more.

I wouldn't even use the word "shocked" It's far worse than that. I remember when there was a substitute for my GP. He kept trying to push the script he had to me. When I had walked out of the room, I lost my way so I ended up overhearing what he said to the nurse. "she's strange she won't take the medicine"

They seem to think that just because they have a degree they know all about how to treat me. While it may be true that you know about the human body, you don't know hardly anything about my personal chemistry.

I think my regular GP has given up trying to script me but at the same time this means I don't get help for my gastritis because I've given up trying to explain myself.

I got fired from work twice over not properly recognizing an authority type and subsequently getting into conflict with them. And I'm perfectly willing to get fired again over a similar conflict in the future. At the same time I don't recommend it.

Last weekend I went to collect my prescription from the pharmacy, a different pharmacist was on duty. I requested a two month supply, she corrected me and said one month supply of each, I thought she had misheard so I corrected her, she glared at me and repeated her previous statement.

When my name was called by the assistant I queried why I was not receiving a two month supply as I had requested. She passed on my question to the pharmacist, who came out from the preparation area, and asked me loudly why on earth did I think I could receive a double month supply, I replied by asking her what was her rationale for refusing my request, that really annoyed her and she announced (looking past me to the other waiting customers) that we don't supply more than one month at a time to those on the medical card.
At which point she turned on her heel and quickly disappeared into the storage room.

I think I was supposed to accept the 'low status' she bestowed upon me and behave accordingly.

If I am paying even a small amount for a service, then I expect to be served as a customer.
In a restaurant if I am not satisfied, I will complain and move on. The same applies to medical professionals or services I have paid tax towards.

Yes, this thread confirms the level of insanity of "normal" human behaviour.

One small experiment (2 minutes at 36:00) goes a long way towards understanding the significance of autistics for progress and innovation. The autistic element is essential for reducing spurious complexity in human societies.

Autistics learn and play differently. Autistics communicate and enjoy themselves by sharing information and knowledge, and not by negotiating social status and reputation.

I don't show deference, but, I believe not primarily because of my AS, but because authoritarianism is evil. A necessary evil in the case of the police and judiciary (an institution that because of the power we defer to them must be constantly under our scrutiny).

I work as a security guard presently, so I am for the most part on my own recognizance. My supervisors and I have a good relationship, due primarily to the fact that I am dependable. I don't treat them any differently than I treat anyone else. They don't seem to me to crave submission, they only ask me to do my job, and treat me, I imagine as they would treat anyone else. The only time I got into any trouble regarding work hiarchies was at an office job I had for a couple years at the county. When one of my dotted-line bosses asked me to do a task, and my newly added boss got angry about it. But she was primarily angry with the co-worker who went under her head rather than through channels (government workers do love their channels).

I do respect knowledge and skill, but the need for authority is a nasty hold-over from our brutish past that we should endeavor to shed.

I follow orders really well but I don't brown nose and stroke their egos and sometimes even point out their mistakes if the person in charge is very questionable. Their authority given to them only social wise or even within a limited area ( like a police or supervisor), they're not perfect beings that are deities they're human just like everyone else with all the flaws and all that. Just because you have your position doesn't mean you deserve it like a guy that gets to be a supervisor but only because he is related to the boss so he goes around being a douchebag because he knows he's "untouchable" or that police officer that expects you to kiss up to them and do everything they say even know they really can't make you do it.

People don't like being corrected, especially in a field the specialize in they feel it is a direct attack. Doctors will get hissy if you try to correct them on something and assume you're one of those people that think they know everything because of WebMD. Nevermind some doctors refuse to join the modern era and use computers, misdiagnose people, or try to push prescriptions on people for their own monetary gain.

Yup, I recognize a lot of the stories in this thread. With medical doctors I've learned to play dumb and they happily eat it up. I think the social status goes to their heads. I've met some incredibly smart people (I.e. who went to the best math grad school in the world (I was a student in another dept.)) and I never heard them trying to impress others with how smart they are. Only medical doctors.

On the other end of it, after I accumulated an "impressive" degree (for this "cow town" I live in), I got to see how often people would treat me differently after they knew, as opposed to before. It's nauseating, but I'm not above using peoples' predjudices to my benefit. Social status really does matter a lot to many people. The most disturbing examples I've seen have been in emergency rooms. They would first always assume I was on drugs (and no, I never used drugs, not even pot) without any tests, not even a pupil response or an eye tracking test. My only conclusion is that it was how I looked, and since my manner of dress was not not of any sub-culture that it was simply racial.

And, as someone mentioned above, they didn't realize at all when they were in a situation where they would never receive feedback about their mistakes. I.e. guessing that someone was on drugs and trying to get rid of them before doing any tests (which always showed them to be wrong thank god).

I think the reason they do that is because a drug user is considered a "lowly" person and thus it is acceptable to be mean/unjust to them and that that feels so good that people subconsciously want to maintain the situation even if It isn't true. I.e. not doing tests that might ruin their fun.

You would you would think that in a life-or-death field people be more careful and put their egos second. I read of a case of a native American guy in an ER who was assumed to be drunk and was "punished" by being made to wait for 34 hours. It turned out that he was not drunk but rather had an infection and had died of shock some hours before someone finally checked on him (rigor had already set in). A nurse from another hospital kept telling the nurse in charge that the man didn't seem to be breathing, but she just laughed it off. That's how intoxicating feeling superior can be.