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29 Oct 2010, 5:38 pm

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Do you have trouble dealing with, or analysing, your own emotions? I find it hard to describe how I feel, though I can describe many things that annoy me or please me.


Sometimes yes. Other times, no, not at all.

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I also seem to be more emotionally 'flat' than other people, unless I'm agitated. I mostly seem slightly sad all the time, which I've noticed in other autistics.


Yes, i tend to be emotionally flat. I can relate to that too, usually i think i am projecting a down look (and people have told me this "you should smile more"), when to me the feeling is sometimes more like sadness mixed with wonder/curiosity or concern. Some people have said i'm very intense too, brooding.

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I wouldn't normally describe myself as sad, though - because I don't notice how I feel. I've had quite severe depression before, and that was like falling into a deep hole; it was nothing like how I normally feel. [/QUOTE[

I've got chronic depression, its been with me off and on my whole life, with only letups being intermittent. For me depression is like the horizons on life narrowing and drawing closer. I'm probably more aware of my feelings too, its just sometimes i cannot communicate them to other people.

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I think we are both high-functioning if we have autism. I hold a decent job down (for now) and I come off as eccentric, but I don't think people look at me and think, 'disabled person'. Maybe I'm deluding myself. :lol:


I've never held a job beyond volunteer work. This is not just the result of autism but also other things, but the autism is a big factor.

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have dyspraxia and can't do sport apart from swimming or most delicate tasks (like sewing), but that's a different condition to autism, although it's often comorbid. Nearly all dyspraxic people have autistic traits, but not all autistics have dyspraxic ones.


I don't have that really, i was a bit uncoordinated as a kid sure but eventually i got into physical activities like martial arts and yoga, and did well enough. Actually, once i got away from the competitive environment of physical education in the US (and plalced in special education classes) I was much more OK with my body and its abilities.



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30 Oct 2010, 3:17 am

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I got a score of 40 and I can relate to the way you think. I also want to read when having conversations with people. I stare at signs and memorise license plates when walking and talking with someone on the street.

Do you have trouble dealing with, or analysing, your own emotions? I find it hard to describe how I feel, though I can describe many things that annoy me or please me. I also seem to be more emotionally 'flat' than other people, unless I'm agitated. I mostly seem slightly sad all the time, which I've noticed in other autistics. I wouldn't normally describe myself as sad, though - because I don't notice how I feel. I've had quite severe depression before, and that was like falling into a deep hole; it was nothing like how I normally feel. Do you seem emotionally flat? Do you have a bit of a flat voice? Do you try to use correct grammar when speaking?

Don't worry if you don't know how you come across, because I have no idea unless people tell me. I've had to ask them why they think I'm unusual, which was a difficult thing for me to do.

Also, do you get excessively annoyed when you're expecting something to happen, and then it doesn't? I mean, most people get annoyed when their train is late, but I nearly cry.

I think we are both high-functioning if we have autism. I hold a decent job down (for now) and I come off as eccentric, but I don't think people look at me and think, 'disabled person'. Maybe I'm deluding myself. :lol:

I have dyspraxia and can't do sport apart from swimming or most delicate tasks (like sewing), but that's a different condition to autism, although it's often comorbid. Nearly all dyspraxic people have autistic traits, but not all autistics have dyspraxic ones.


Just to say : I am dyspraxic too and scored 38. From what I have read in dyspraxic forums, the results tend to be higher than average (25-35) with this condition.



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30 Oct 2010, 5:12 pm

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Just to say : I am dyspraxic too and scored 38. From what I have read in dyspraxic forums, the results tend to be higher than average (25-35) with this condition.


From my observation of dyspraxic people (I've known 3, besides myself), they are usually more high-functioning in terms of theory of mind and general self-awareness than most aspies. I think maybe they score higher because they have more of an inkling of how their behaviour is strange. I don't think they usually have more severe autism. My knowledge is limited, though.



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30 Oct 2010, 6:50 pm

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For example seeing the Sun as a symbol for God, the moon as a symbol for a Prophet, and stars as symbols for clergy.
I really like that analogy. It paints a pretty picture.



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31 Oct 2010, 5:06 am

People with Dyspraxia often have Autistic traits so it is more likely someone with Dyspraxia will get high scores on this test. I agree with others though if they don't cause a person any problems then I doubt the person is actually Autistic. I mean have I done all these Autism/Aspergers type of tests and I often score quite high. However I don't think I am Autistic, but I do have Autistic tendencies and I have been told I do. Mind you being completely content alone with no friends, and prefering solitude probably isn't exactly normal.



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31 Oct 2010, 11:31 am

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lostD wrote:

Just to say : I am dyspraxic too and scored 38. From what I have read in dyspraxic forums, the results tend to be higher than average (25-35) with this condition.


From my observation of dyspraxic people (I've known 3, besides myself), they are usually more high-functioning in terms of theory of mind and general self-awareness than most aspies. I think maybe they score higher because they have more of an inkling of how their behaviour is strange. I don't think they usually have more severe autism. My knowledge is limited, though.


I know that I am going to sound stupid but I still do not understand what theory of mind is. Even after reading the wikipedia article twice.

The ones who score higher (25-35, I do not think that 15-25 is really high, am I right ?) generally have severe dyspraxia, which tend to create social difficulties (early in childhood). But this test is highly subjective.

I know that I tried to be honest and make most of my answer fall into the grey area (well, I really could not for some of them) because I cannot tell whether my problems are really important or not compared to some people.

You know, loving the number 7 (and most odd numbers apart from 1, 11, 111 etc) does not mean that I am obsessed with numbers for example (this is silly but the gap between the two is important enough to show my point) but I am pretty sure that some people would have "agreed" with this sentence just because they like some numbers.

It's just like my best friend who does not believe that I am dyspraxic and will say "well, I am clumsy too, I may as well be dyspraxic" while she obviously has no idea of what it is to have dyspraxia and what other problems one can have.

So, basically, this test is a great tool with people who are not depressed or suffer from very low self esteem first, because they have a tendency to exagerate their problems because they feel bad (I know that, I was a teenager once and adolescence is awful when you are rejected and are learning about what your parents had been told about "your problems" which you are were not aware of as a child).
Then, well, let's say that it's a great tool if you ask someone else to do it for you as well to compare (not always a great tool however, I had a highest score with my brother, thanks XD) and if you are objective and well informed about the various existing conditions.

For example, my best friend did the Aspie Quiz, and she score quite high compared to what I would have guessed, and talking to her about that I realized that she had exagerated some answers because she has no knowledge about the various conditions which are part of the test.

For example, "I like being alone sometimes, I think that partying is cool but I always do something stupid, therefore I have no social skills". (She is bipolar and gifted and somewhat of an introvert, but very social.)

And "I do not understand social rules" means "I do not understand why we have to party and get drunk every week or go shopping with other girls twice a day."

Really ? Well, I do not understand body language and implicit orders for example, that's another kind of problem isn't it ?

I am not angry at them but I really think that we should take the results of these tests carefully. Obviously, there will be some high score due to misunderstanding.


(I am still grateful that the Aspie Quiz exists because I did it to convince myself that I should seek at least a diagnosis of dyspraxia.)


I would be interested to see the score of one of my friend because she is depressed and almost blind which means that she has a lot of social difficulties (and a tendency to think that what happens to her is the worst that could ever happen to anyone but that's part of her personnality) and narrow interests (archery, archery and archery). :lol:


Oh, by the way, I was not saying that we have more severe autism, just higher score than most non autistic people. But to tell where if the autistic traits are an aquired consequence of our difficulties or something we are born with is difficult, I think it depends on the way we are affected.
I am faceblind, this could explain the fact that I do not understand body language at all (even the obvious gesture like someone who wants to shake hands) but people who do not have this condition may understand body language pretty well but be unable to use it properly.

[I know, some autistic people can understand body language and this diversity is impressive and interesting.]



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02 Nov 2010, 12:09 am

Thanks for the replies.

I've been reading more about AS and what I'm learning is making me feel disturbed but also strangely comforted.

The lack of social skills in particular is something I've been reflecting on.  My childhood is something I think about often as it was the only time in my life I felt genuinely happy.  I'll spare most of the details, but I was the naughty child in school and this role became my character through most of high school.  I was frequently suspended and very often ejected from the classroom, and would spend most lunch breaks writing lines in detention. I remember drawing pictures on my GCSE exams and instead of answering questions I would write letters to the examiners discussing random topics.  People who knew me from school find it very very strange that I went to university much less that I finished grad school.

I always felt different.  This will sound strange but from a very young age I remember it seeming absurd that other people actually existed and had genuine feelings like myself.  It's only in the last few years (twenties) that I've been gradually accepting That others also have feelings, hopes, abilities, aspirations, etc.  I basically lacked empathy and it's a new concept I'm only now starting to understand.

The other aspect that I relate strongly to is special interests.  They were never very narrow (like memorizing train model numbers) but I would often find a topic I'd become deeply interested in, such as electronics and programming microchips, and would spend a lot of time reading and learning and purchasing accessories for these activities.  I went through similar phases with cryptography/cryptanalysis, studying the stock market, studying biblical prophecies, and writing computer programs.  These interests have been my companions for many years.  This brings me on to the next point...

I've been very isolated socially since I was around 17; before then I had one main close friend and was reasonably ok with others.  I recall vividly making a conscious decision to learn more about different subjects (those mentioned above) instead of wasting time walking around town with my friends who didn't stimulate me much.  I barely left the house after this point except for essentials and was always eager to get back to my interests which gave me much stimulation and excitement.  It was only last year (age 26) when my uncle told me his kids don't like to be 'isolated, away from people' that I took it as a subtle hint I was on the wrong path.  Since then I've been trying to get out more, but it's hard going and I still feel happier with my interests than I do with people.

So these are some of the ways I'm seeing how my life has had elements of AS: social awkwardness, withdrawal, interest in different special subjects, lack of empathy, etc.

Does any of this match up with AS?  How can I be diagnosed professionally, as an adult in the USA?  Can I get better?  Should I be mad at all those teachers who just threw me out of class and made me waste all those breaks writing lines in detention?       

  
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23 Jun 2013, 3:37 pm

hi i scored 40 on aq test and a lot of people have said i have aspergers so maybe there righ.t having trouble being officialy diagnosed but keep trying im 37 only just trying to get answers now just want to knew .
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23 Jun 2013, 8:29 pm

As others have said, it's only a "disorder" as such if it causes clinically significant impairment in functioning, so you don't need to worry that you might have disorder you didn't know about unless you are experiencing serious problems and need to locate the source.

Aside from having a diagnosable disorder, you could well be somewhere on the autistic spectrum in a milder sense. Learning about the characteristics associated with being on the spectrum could help you to understand your own eccentricities and perhaps work on areas of weakness. My recommendation is to read up on it in your own time but try to keep an open mind and don't let yourself or others start labeling you as having a disorder unless you are really certain and you definitely are having problems.


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29 Sep 2013, 8:57 pm

Of course you would have some, but not all of the traits. If you're interested, I would sugest you seek a proffesional diagnois. Knowing more about ways to better cope with your paticular struggles and explore your talents can be very inspiring.

I took both the AQ test and the aspie quiz. I think I scored pretty high :?

my scores

AQ swore = 42

Aspie Quiz
Aspie Score = 181/200
Neurotypical score = 28/200

Of course I had major issues growing up, esspecially in school, dispite my high IQ. I had an extreamly large vocabulary, but I never knew what people expected of me. It's interesting to note that my son was diagnosed with high funtioning Autism and he had more significant problems including speech, and other devalopmental delays.

On the empathy side, I'd say that both my son and I are extreamly empathic (making eye contact with anyone way to intence for comfort), but I'm emotinally blind. When I finally discover that someone was annoyed or upset by my behavior, I feel terrible, but I'm usually the last to know.



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29 Sep 2013, 9:01 pm

scores in signature. i figured this out when i was 48, although i've had my suspicions over the years. you are well within what i perceive as the curve for more common screening for this diagnosis in our school years, by about ten years.


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29 Sep 2013, 9:11 pm

I scored a 21 on the AQ test and I have an Aspergers diagnosis

some of the questions have to do with personality type, for instance, I would definitly much rather go to a theatre than a library and i'm not good at remembering dates or numbers like some aspies are.


I am also okay with change, I don't like doing the same thing over and over again such as using the computer all day. Even though I dont necessarily like talking to people, I do like getting out of the house and going to events. I prefer a busy life so I won't be in the house all day on the computer.


Not all aspies are the same.



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I just scored this apparently high score (35) on an AQ test after seeing it on Facebook. I'm a bit confused by this score as I'm not really familiar with what Autism is, and find it strange I would only realize now at age 27. The strange thing is I just told my gf and she said she wasn't surprised and that even one of our friend's mentioned to her that I seemed autistic a few weeks ago. I asked her to sit the test and she scored a 10.

Can anybody help me understand this? I suppose I could tell you a bit about myself. I'm quite bookish and studious and currently work as a postdoc research scientist. I can be socially awkward with people I don't know very well, and I've been told I can drift off very easily in conversations. I can sometimes come up with one liners that make people laugh but conversing is usually difficult unless it's a technical subject. When in a social group setting I tend to lose track/interest of what people are talking about and usually prefer to open my Ipad and read or surf the web, though if people start playing games (e.g. cards) I like to join in and enjoy it.

I also see connections a lot between things that don't seem related to others, and when I try to explain their relatedness I'm never able to persuade anybody (usually my gf). For example seeing the Sun as a symbol for God, the moon as a symbol for a Prophet, and stars as symbols for clergy. Or for example feeling that mould on out-of-date bread is a symbol for how we need to work hard so opportunities (nutrition) are not lost (mould). This approach to thinking is ongoing and I apply it to everything constantly. I don't see it as a burden however and derive enjoyment from searching for common themes in unrelated things.

I do enjoy some types of sport (e.g. soccer) and play them reasonably well. I don't have any locomotive problems. I also like to write extensive notes in the margins of books and I read almost exclusively non-fiction. I could go on but I hope that gives you some idea of me and how it ties in with this high score. Is this really a 'disorder'? I don't feel there is anything wrong with me at least, although my girlfriend told me tonight it is a disorder when I withdraw myself socially and others feel I'm ignoring them.



Thanks for reading and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.


""I also see connections a lot between things that don't seem related to others, and when I try to explain their relatedness I'm never able to persuade anybody"

So much this. QFT.



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18 Sep 2016, 1:49 pm

Hi Combo.

Seeing "connectedness" where others don't - take a look at this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/L ... tiveAgency

With that being said, I do that too (somewhat) - I like your ideas. :)

I didn't figure out I had AS until I was 32 (6 years ago). People can find out at any age. A few people "noticed" it in me before I took the tests, so when I told them it was no big deal. Others still don't believe it's true. :D (I'm female, btw, so it may present differently with me.)

According to most psychological/psychiatric thought, a condition is a "disorder" if it significantly interferes with daily functioning and/or quality of life. Take that as you will. When it comes to the autism spectrum, that may vary - "if you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism."

Don't know if this helps you any :D but, welcome.


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18 Sep 2016, 7:08 pm

Combo posted this question in 2010 the last year he posted on Wrong Planet. I hope by now he found answers.


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It definitely sounds as if you may have Asperger's Syndrome. A large number of people with Asperger's Syndrome & higher forms of autism don't even know they have it because it doesn't impair their lives in any way. You seem to have inherited all of the good from it & none of the bad. That's definitely a good thing.



that's amazing to me I just took this online on a whim and mine has impaired my entire life, i got the same score, I didn't really notice til i got out of the structure of school that i was basically non-functional in life. in school environments I am fine. I love school. like i've partially taken a lot of certifications and stuff at community college like solar energy, medical transcription, computers, paralegal etc just because I like doing it so much. well three of those i completed. nursing and paralegal I didn't finish when I accepted there was too much human interaction. I can't imagine having this and not noticing.