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10 Dec 2016, 7:03 pm

Our senses are extreme. we live in a fantasy world. our personalitys are governed by our obsessions. We cant act naturally so we have to obsess over one thing. I have rarely had a moment in my life where i wasnt obsessed with something. hence why alot of us are nerdy. our peripheral vision is terrible. people on my campus spot me all the time and i never see them. i just realized today how bad our peripheral vision because our concentration is insane. Or maybe thats just me. It feels like others talk with thier minds. We are all messed up in the head, but bright in our own ways. Every situation is a social situation, but I see it as a task to be done.



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11 Dec 2016, 5:10 am

I didn't even know the peripheral vision one was "a thing", but can definitely attest to people telling me they waved to me in my car or in a hallway and I "ignored them". Actually If I didn't wave back, I was simply unaware.



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11 Dec 2016, 7:22 am

Hm, odd. I've heard some Autistic people have better peripheral vision than "central vision".



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11 Dec 2016, 9:07 am

Exuvian wrote:
I didn't even know the peripheral vision one was "a thing", but can definitely attest to people telling me they waved to me in my car or in a hallway and I "ignored them". Actually If I didn't wave back, I was simply unaware.

this is exactly what i mean. happens 24/7 lol



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12 Dec 2016, 3:13 pm

It also feels like we act consciencely in the world. Most people act subconsciously. We act conscienscously because we are high functioning. If we were low functioning, we would be like those that need taken care of. That is why our behaviors come across as awkward and such. I feel as if within miniutes people can tell we are on the spectrum. If we didnt have our obsessions I feel like we couldn't function. Or we'd be super hypersexual or something. I found this thread fascinating.viewtopic.php?t=122615



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12 Dec 2016, 3:32 pm

I think my peripheral vision is ok but I have very bad depth perception. I'm not sure if it's that I live in a fantasy world or just that I shut the real world out to degrees.



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13 Dec 2016, 5:22 am

My peripheral vision is excellent and I definitely don't live in a fantasy world. I'll agree with obsessions though :)


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13 Dec 2016, 6:10 am

I think what's happening is we're seeing too much and can't filter out all that noise to notice people.

Autism to me is that our senses are so bombarded that our brains have developed a coping mechanism by making us have a great attention to detail, so we just look at what it right in front of us. This extends to having a very focused interest in one subject and usually on just one part of that subject. It also makes us resistant to any changes because the comfort of routine takes away all that chaos we face everyday by just going outside and experiencing our environment.
It's much like the Intense World Syndrome theory that says we're experiencing so much that our lack of empathy is caused by having too much of it, or rather too much emotion so we shut down.

And there are also a large number of neurological studies that have found the social areas in typical brains are underdeveloped in autism.


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13 Dec 2016, 8:04 am

I disagree with the OP.

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Our senses are extreme.

Not for everyone; some of mine are, others are so weak that i can call them 'absent'
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we live in a fantasy world.

No, we (i) retreat there often to recharge or defend against overstimulation, but i don't "live" there
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our personalitys are governed by our obsessions.

To no further degree as that of an allistic (~NT) person, see the previous point
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We cant act naturally so we have to obsess over one thing.

Disagree strongly: i can easily behave naturally, but my "natural" is different from "the norm"
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our peripheral vision is terrible.

Mine is perfect, a lot better than my 'central', this is why i am awful in catching and throwing, but i have almost superhuman situational awareness, always knowing that happens around me
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It feels like others talk with thier minds.

For me, it is the opposite, i feel like others are talking without using their minds.
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We are all messed up in the head, but bright in our own ways.

"We are not weird, we are wired differently"
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Every situation is a social situation, but I see it as a task to be done.

Sure, everytime a second person is around, the situation is social, this does not need to be a problem though



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13 Dec 2016, 8:13 am

This is what it feels like in this body:

1. Noise- the noises small children make, bikes, angle grinders, and most of all, people who knock on windows. It grates me

2. Extreme focus- everything is in HDR vision, always 24/7.

3. Difficult to hear people saying stuff, especially when I am busy. I have to "replay" the sounds in my head to avoid having to ask them to repeat themselves.

4. Obsession over projects, and stressing whether there will be a family gathering, or other social engagement that will ruin the plans or mean I will have less time to spend on project.

5. Stressing about gift shopping (a yearly occurrence)


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13 Dec 2016, 9:16 am

xile123 wrote:
Hm, odd. I've heard some Autistic people have better peripheral vision than "central vision".



Yeah. If he means it literally thats ridiculous.Autistics have the same eye anatomy as everyone else.

But if he means it figuratively (- like that autistics dont notice things peripheral to their obsessions, or that they cant deal with unexpect stuff coming out of left field) then that might actually be a good metaphor for autism.



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13 Dec 2016, 9:35 am

I guess my peripheral is bad because im so obsessed with one thing haha. I guess i got things i gotta work on



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13 Dec 2016, 9:36 am

pensieve wrote:
I think what's happening is we're seeing too much and can't filter out all that noise to notice people.

Autism to me is that our senses are so bombarded that our brains have developed a coping mechanism by making us have a great attention to detail, so we just look at what it right in front of us. This extends to having a very focused interest in one subject and usually on just one part of that subject. It also makes us resistant to any changes because the comfort of routine takes away all that chaos we face everyday by just going outside and experiencing our environment.
It's much like the Intense World Syndrome theory that says we're experiencing so much that our lack of empathy is caused by having too much of it, or rather too much emotion so we shut down.

And there are also a large number of neurological studies that have found the social areas in typical brains are underdeveloped in autism.


yeah thats what i mean



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13 Dec 2016, 9:38 am

izzeme wrote:
I disagree with the OP.

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Our senses are extreme.

Not for everyone; some of mine are, others are so weak that i can call them 'absent'
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we live in a fantasy world.

No, we (i) retreat there often to recharge or defend against overstimulation, but i don't "live" there
Quote:
our personalitys are governed by our obsessions.

To no further degree as that of an allistic (~NT) person, see the previous point
Quote:
We cant act naturally so we have to obsess over one thing.

Disagree strongly: i can easily behave naturally, but my "natural" is different from "the norm"
Quote:
our peripheral vision is terrible.

Mine is perfect, a lot better than my 'central', this is why i am awful in catching and throwing, but i have almost superhuman situational awareness, always knowing that happens around me
Quote:
It feels like others talk with thier minds.

For me, it is the opposite, i feel like others are talking without using their minds.
Quote:
We are all messed up in the head, but bright in our own ways.

"We are not weird, we are wired differently"
Quote:
Every situation is a social situation, but I see it as a task to be done.

Sure, everytime a second person is around, the situation is social, this does not need to be a problem though


i meant they just naturally talk to each other and connect. I definitely do not speak much because i think over every word. Do Normal people just speak in inneudos and round aboutish ways?



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13 Dec 2016, 10:11 am

I'm not really obsessed over anything. Either that, or i'm completely oblivious to what i'm obsessed over.


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13 Dec 2016, 12:10 pm

Jhob5 wrote:
Exuvian wrote:
I didn't even know the peripheral vision one was "a thing", but can definitely attest to people telling me they waved to me in my car or in a hallway and I "ignored them". Actually If I didn't wave back, I was simply unaware.

this is exactly what i mean. happens 24/7 lol


Me too! My friends could be walking right past me in the hallways, and I wouldn't see them until they literally stood in my way and said my name.

I can agree with the people talking with their minds thing. I always feel like I'm two steps behind everyone else in every conversation I have. I always complain about movies too, because the characters are always "talking with their faces", as in, having a dialogue with their facial expressions, but for me it's like suddenly having the film switch to a foreign language with no subtitles. I feel like I miss out on a lot of the plot.


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