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03 Apr 2011, 9:15 am

Quoting Yesid:

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One thing not do is to try to block them out. This does not help. In fact, it makes them worse.


I agree. At the same time, learning not to obsess over them. See them for what they are.

I believe intrusive thoughts are themselves a form of self harm. They bring irrational fear and emotional pain. And since my mind is the producer of these thoughts, I am hurting myself if I put any stock in them. When they happen I acknowledge them for what they are and that I created them and then I tell them to get lost, take a hike. My intrusive thoughts are not about hurting myself or anyone else, but they are about something bad happening to people that I love and being powerless to prevent it.



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17 Apr 2017, 11:20 am

I do, and for a while I thought it was OCD, but I realize I was just getting too spun up over thoughts.

Which makes more sense. Some of the OCD stuff didn't make sense to me.

As somebody said earlier, I'm more OCD-ish.

Interestingly enougy, I did notice some OCD-ish traits in The Accountant movie, but they're easily explained by his autism.

I read that autism can look like OCD, in certain lights, and that makes sense.

Interesting thread, this. Helps to remind myself I'm not alone, here, as well. Kudos!


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17 Apr 2017, 12:20 pm

I am prone to thinking about suicide a lot. Whilst I have made efforts to banish these destructive thoughts, they still pervade around my mind on occasion.

The severity of my learning difficulties is so severe that I don't believe I can do anything with my brain. At this juncture my diagnosis is only ASD, but I suspect I have APD, inattentive ADHD, dyspraxia and dyslexia, too.

I have no imagination. I can read but don't seem to process the information with any great ease. And perhaps worst of all, I seldom remember anything anyone says. For these reasons I am convinced there's something severely wrong with my brain. It's kind of like I am in a conscious coma.

Why would anyone want to continue living if they can't offer anything to the world?


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18 Apr 2017, 3:46 pm

I have intrusive thoughts all the time. They really bother me a lot and I sometimes get scared or uncomfortable when they occur. I usually will just yell something like "QUIET!" or "GO AWAY!" (usually silently, but sometimes I will accidentally do it out loud and it gets embarrassing then :oops: )


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23 Apr 2017, 10:01 pm

I have really, really terrible intrusive thoughts about hurting my students. I know it's not "me" thinking them, because I'm generally worried and afraid of the thoughts; and besides, it's not like I haven't had the opportunity while alone with them to hurt them. Never have, and I never will, obviously, but I still worry about it several times a day.

Gotta love that anxiety.


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23 Apr 2017, 11:14 pm

I first noticed these thoughts when I was 12 and they scared the f**k out of me. They would usually center around me hurting somebody I loved. I thought I was a psychopath. I attempted suicide a month after I noticed them. As I've grown older I am able to control them more.
They are by far the worst symptom of OCD out there.


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24 Apr 2017, 12:28 am

I have two types of thoughts. The first are behavior thoughts like while cutting up vegetables I suddenly think 'I could stab myself in the neck' but as soon as the thought is in my head I tell myself it would be a very stupid thing to do. All I would achieve would be a bloody mess and end up in a locked ward. This sort of thought also turns up when I'm trying to cross roads and I stand there trying work out which cars would be fast enough to be fatal. This horrifies me because while I do not have anything against suicide per se, I am morally opposed to it involving other people.

The other type I have is the repetitive ones like 'and then her husband walked in'. I started having this one as a child and I have no idea why. The other one is 'and then she died' I have no idea if the thought is about me dying or someone else. These repetitive ones show up a lot when I'm anxious.

As to how I deal with them, quite simply I don't. I don't believe anything would get rid of them. They are just a part of me sadly.


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24 Apr 2017, 2:17 am

http://www.sound-mind.org/obsessive-thinking.html


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24 Apr 2017, 12:51 pm

Yes, I've experienced intrusive thoughts. Some are about actions, I've never acted on them or wanted to, it's just an intrusive thought. Some are just thoughts that aren't about actions but are intrusive and untrue.


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24 Apr 2017, 6:54 pm

I've had OCD symptoms since I was 7 that have varied in severity and included intrusive thoughts. I've had bouts of persistent intrusive thoughts about a few things in particular but also experienced more 'random' intrusive thoughts such as the thought/ urge to touch or lick something disgusting.

For me, medication (fluoxetine/ Prozac) and seeing a psychologist has helped. I'm just lucky that while I've had some pretty intense episodes, I've not had to deal with the thoughts all day, every day like some people do.


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15 Jun 2017, 8:54 pm

Greetings and factual Salutations to all.

I don't mean to intrude however upon seeing this post I had a compulsion to state the facts:

Intrusive thoughts can be caused by a multitude of conditions from OCD to depression or others, but are most linked to factual anxiety.

Basically an intrusive thought is something completely opposite to what a person thinks.

In my factual instance I've had intrusive thoughts insult me, say I think things I don't or predominantly they try and state that I think factual and such things as concerns my best friend when I don't and never would.

Mine sound or imply to myself that I'm blaming near on everything onto and such be it good or bad when such things are not because of or due to anyone and I never thought otherwise especially not as concerns herself unless it's how she calms me and I miss her and positive and good things which thanks to her I experience.

People with OCD, Autism, Aspergers, any form of anxiety and obsessive disorder can get such, but so do neurotypical people.

The difference is the reaction:

For myself instantly when I get such I have to compulsively deny them, state I don't think whatever when I never did, even though I know thanks to my best friend herself and my maternal parent I don't have to state such.

I know my OCD and intrusive and such whatever target my best friend because I think of her both naturally and slightly obsessively due to the OCD, because she's my centre. Even now when busyness has not let her reply for a while which I completely understand, she still is my centre and key to my happiness.

I know thanks to her I can enjoy things, feel and do what I want without it being to do with any one single person or thing, and hence when chances come I try to.

But with OCD, it takes what you love, your most principle and core facts, values and sometimes factual morals and tries to give you opposite thoughts. Neurotypical people simply force them away or ignore them.

People with OCD or in my case Autism, Aspegers and multiple subtypes of OCD which was caused by me over thinking and such when I didn't have to years ago, cannot just let them go.

The proper method that sees the most results is cognitive therapy:

When you have the intrusive thought, don't factually fight it, let it play out and accept it.

I personally cannot do that, because to accept such to me is admitting I think it or factually agree when I don't agree, think such and I know I don't. It's just automatic and intrusive compulsive thoughts that I end up over thinking.

My best friend knows this and understands better than anyone save my maternal parent and carer who also understands as much and such.

Before recently, I've been factually fine, I would message my best friend as usual, then calm like I usually do thanks to herself then progress and do other things which I know she'd encourage or go past my factual bad moments knowing such means nothing my automatic and intrusive whatever try to say.

Then out of nowhere recently my intrusive and such started obsessing towards herself when I never think anything towards herself least of all or anyone else.

The only things I do think are how I miss her as I don't and such she does also, how I hope she's okay and hope all is okay for herself and with herself and other such things. She knows I think none of any of the other intrusive whatever that come randomly up or I myself end up thinking automatically I was going to get intrusive whatever saying.

It can be different things for different people. For me, I treasure my best friend and I never wish to lose herself, anymore than I would my maternal parent who I don't wish to lose either. For a while I struggled with not getting any emotions even though both my best friend and my maternal parent understood.

My best friend told me that just because you don't feel something all the time or get the same reaction internally every single time doesn't mean anything. My maternal parent stated the same and as usual both were correct.

During that time I used to think myself how I'm calm because of and thanks to best friend, because near on I always was calm thanks to herself and because of herself, even though I knew thanks to herself and my maternal parent again that I can and could be such from other things too.

My intrusive thoughts and automatic OCD decided to take such and automatically start saying I thought the words 'because of' as concerns my best friend on things I don't and didn't at all. My best friend is my centre, I never wish to lose herself so naturally my OCD tries to go against such, saying things opposite to what is the actual case and what I think.

For some it can be other things. A teacher will get intrusive thoughts stating about endangering their students when they never would, never think such and in fact their students mean a lot to them.

Intrusive thoughts are intrusive because they aren't what we actually think. They are opposite.

And near on always they are accompanied by rumination, over thinking, obsessing over things you don't think and wouldn't ever think or do, and a self doubt that you'll have the urge or will do whatever you won't. The fact we have to remember about intrusive thoughts are that they aren't real, they are not what we think and they are just random or intrusive opposite thoughts that we will not act on.

Compulsions are a different matter entirely. I have two, one to state I don't think whatever as concerns my best friend when I don't think any whatever anyone which is because of myself, not anything or one else's doing not that I ever thought otherwise.

The other isn't really just a compulsion, it's something I say because it's also true, I do think it and it's the most natural thing I feel and think. And that is me saying 'I hope my best friend is okay' which I do, as I don't and such she does also.

Usually with over thinking and OCD there are three subjects that intrusive thoughts come under:

Anger and rage based

Religious blasphemy

and Sexual based.

Mine when I was younger and mostly have always been the latter, saying I think whatever I don't or whenever I hear certain words that they refer to whoever they don't especially not myself.

Another factual side effect and add on for those who have intrusive thoughts, OCD and such usually is the compulsion to do rituals or compulsions to alleviate the intrusive thought created stress, anxiety or unsettledness and to confess about such things.

Such are the facts I have found and confirmed in research and such.

No offence sought to any I simply stated the facts due to another compulsion I have to state facts.

Apologies for how I type also, it's part of my own Autism and Aspergers as I only state facts and truth.