Do you feel like the odd one out on Wrong Planet?

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01 Mar 2018, 7:20 pm

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Anyone who know's the spectrum well is aware that the Asperger's-type Autism is not even the majority and I'm not even sure if these people are anywhere at all on the spectrum. The truth is, most people with ASD are somewhere in the middle and DO have social skill deficits, communication issues and other distressing symptoms. Why not interview more people in this range? or even a diverse range showing all ends of the spectrum.


Personally it would be nice to see people who have had a hard time with their filter and their process of overcoming it. Even on my most verbally adequate days, I still feel like I can easily say too much. It feels like everything is important so if I leave something out it's too little in my brain.
I can have a normal conversation I suppose but I have been known to seem like I'm arguing when I'm not even though I'm just being really passionate/opinionated.
Remember elevator speeches? Those are the worst. I could never do one of those no matter how much I try so I'll be lucky if I find other work since I suck at interviews. I literally only got this job because I was the only one that showed up that day. I am sure of it because even then I was a bit trippy on my words.



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01 Mar 2018, 7:31 pm

I just feel odd :P



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01 Mar 2018, 7:40 pm

Even though we haven't "talked" much, I like you, Bethanny. You seem pretty sensible.

When I started here in 2014, I felt like the "odd one out," too. So I know how you feel



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01 Mar 2018, 7:54 pm

The irony behind this is hilarious, but yes.



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01 Mar 2018, 8:32 pm

bethannny wrote:
Nickchick wrote:
I feel like the black sheep everywhere I go. This place is no different. In a way it doesn't bother me because I'm very much a loner but it's also frustrating when you are lost and need real guidance
This is for a different reason than you stated...just have qualities/beliefs or whatever that doesn't seem to mesh with either groups. I can connect with lots of people online but mostly on the surface.


It did take me a long time to get a job and it's still not the one I want or feel comfortable in. I have my mom but that's about all. We see my aunt once in a while but I'm not at all close with her.
I have been told what I already knew: that I'm hard to understand.

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Also even beyond ''sites'' there is a video on Youtube called ''things not to say to an Autistic person'' with all these supposedly Autistic adults. Their behavior in the video went beyond ''passing'' - their social skills were pitch perfect as with their interactions with each other.

I am sorry, but there is no way even the highest functioning ''passing'' Autistic adult can socialize with no degree of difficulty. Even more troubling is a lot of these ''Asperger's advocates'' report no other symptoms other than being ''awkward'' which they clearly are not even that.

Something is clearly wrong with this picture.


They did seem very put together. Maybe they rehearsed it enough times but idk I couldn't talk in front of a camera like that. I wish I could. To be able to follow my dreams I need to be able to be comfortable putting myself out there but the idea always scared me. I had a hard enough time just responding to job ads.
I couldn't relate to that video myself but I forget why. I think it was some of their examples of things to say not to an autistic person.


Anyone who know's the spectrum well is aware that the Asperger's-type Autism is not even the majority and I'm not even sure if these people are anywhere at all on the spectrum. The truth is, most people with ASD are somewhere in the middle and DO have social skill deficits, communication issues and other distressing symptoms. Why not interview more people in this range? or even a diverse range showing all ends of the spectrum.

It's videos like this that are making people think the only Autism is the Asperger's type. I can't be the only one frustrated by this?


You're not the only one frustrated. Try being the exact thing that you yourself can identify with and makes sense to your life then in every other thread (a bit of an exaggeration, but not that much of one) is talked about as not existing. While they tout that they themselves are of a certain level equal to or greater than the very thing in their last breath says doesn't exists. Eye Roll please.



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01 Mar 2018, 8:37 pm

I really dislike the concept and label "high functioning." I am differently functioning than some and similar to others. Each have challenges. Sometimes I think I look to feel different than others I alienate myself unnecessarily. Other times I think everyone is so alien to each other, but most others just aren't aware. I like to focus on the ways we connect. This site is a nice way for us to connect, no matter how we may differ.



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01 Mar 2018, 8:47 pm

starcats wrote:
I really dislike the concept and label "high functioning." I am differently functioning than some and similar to others. Each have challenges. Sometimes I think I look to feel different than others I alienate myself unnecessarily. Other times I think everyone is so alien to each other, but most others just aren't aware. I like to focus on the ways we connect. This site is a nice way for us to connect, no matter how we may differ.


I didn't use the high functioning term, I said an ''Asperger's version'' of Autism. And I think you generally know what I mean when I say that. There is more to Autism than that and this seems to be overly represented. And as you said, there's many people who are differently functioning and can not even be put in a box their own symptoms are diverse with many disparities.

I guess my point was, that this site does seem to draw in a certain kind of crowd. There are many people admittedly undiagnosed here or they have been diagnosed with the formerly existing ''Asperger's syndrome''.



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01 Mar 2018, 9:14 pm

I certainly do. I classify myself as moderate functioning. I have no job (not for lack of effort - I just keep hearing nothing back from places), live with my parents, have never been in any sort of romantic relationship (and don't desire one), and can't drive. I have no special talent, ability, or skill, and my obsessions can't possibly be of any sort of use (currently my main one is Cenobites from Hellraiser, and is definitely a full-on obsession). I have selective mutism, and there's no possible way I can pass as NT no matter how hard I try. Also, I was diagnosed when I was in fourth grade - not super early, but not later in life, either (it seems most people were one or the other). And to top things off, I have the soul of a dragon, which means I'm probably never going to completely fit in anywhere.


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01 Mar 2018, 9:26 pm

dragonsanddemons wrote:
I certainly do. I classify myself as moderate functioning. I have no job (not for lack of effort - I just keep hearing nothing back from places), live with my parents, have never been in any sort of romantic relationship (and don't desire one), and can't drive. I have no special talent, ability, or skill, and my obsessions can't possibly be of any sort of use (currently my main one is Cenobites from Hellraiser, and is definitely a full-on obsession). I have selective mutism, and there's no possible way I can pass as NT no matter how hard I try. Also, I was diagnosed when I was in fourth grade - not super early, but not later in life, either (it seems most people were one or the other). And to top things off, I have the soul of a dragon, which means I'm probably never going to completely fit in anywhere.


You're perfectly fine, I had a lot of weird obsessions too that people would never understand.

I would love to sick a ''chatterer'' on a few people, starting at my stepmother years back :lol:



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01 Mar 2018, 9:53 pm

bethannny wrote:
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I certainly do. I classify myself as moderate functioning. I have no job (not for lack of effort - I just keep hearing nothing back from places), live with my parents, have never been in any sort of romantic relationship (and don't desire one), and can't drive. I have no special talent, ability, or skill, and my obsessions can't possibly be of any sort of use (currently my main one is Cenobites from Hellraiser, and is definitely a full-on obsession). I have selective mutism, and there's no possible way I can pass as NT no matter how hard I try. Also, I was diagnosed when I was in fourth grade - not super early, but not later in life, either (it seems most people were one or the other). And to top things off, I have the soul of a dragon, which means I'm probably never going to completely fit in anywhere.


You're perfectly fine, I had a lot of weird obsessions too that people would never understand.

I would love to sick a ''chatterer'' on a few people, starting at my stepmother years back :lol:


Chatterer's my favorite :D


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01 Mar 2018, 10:10 pm

I do feel the odd one out and for exactly the reasons you quote , I don't suffer as much as 99% of people here ( well not from my ASD ) my comorbids are what I suffer from :roll:


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01 Mar 2018, 10:11 pm

You go around and around like a Ferris Wheel :jester:



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01 Mar 2018, 10:22 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
You go around and around like a Ferris Wheel :jester:


yeah , boring , one direction and the shittest ride at the fair :lol:


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01 Mar 2018, 10:30 pm

Yes, but I often feel like the odd one out in general. Partly due to neurological differences, NVLD, and always the new kid since move every few years growing up and moved around as adult ( it’s all I know) and if live somewhere more than 3 Years it’s home:)


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01 Mar 2018, 10:32 pm

Gazelle wrote:
Yes, but I often feel like the odd one out in general. Partly due to neurological differences, NVLD, and always the new kid since move every few years growing up and moved around as adult ( it’s all I know) and if live somewhere more than 3 Years it’s home:)


I wonder if 'always the new kid' is beneficial or a hindrance if you are on the spectrum?


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02 Mar 2018, 4:53 am

bethannny wrote:
It seems most people on this site are very high functioning and quite a few are employed, have families and are self diagnosed. That just seems somewhat I don't know... alienating to me.


It seems to me that relatively few people here have families or are employed in long term, full time employment. Many people are self diagnosed but as long as they are honest about that I don't see a problem with it. For many of us there were no diagnoses to describe us when we were younger and services for adults are still very poor to non existent in many places.

What I find frustrating is that people assume that because I have a full time job with a lot of responsibility, I can't possibly be impaired in any way. Put me in any social situation though and my impairments are immediately very obvious. I am far from high functioning in a social context. I don't have a family and can't comprehend how anyone can have the organisational ability or personal mental resources to look after children. I can barely look after myself some days. I can just about manage to do all the things associated with owning my own home provided I get some help from my one friend.

Most people in real life probably just see me as someone who is odd and has no social skills. At school I was just the weird kid who sat in the corner and never joined in with anything but still managed to pass all except one of their exams - they were effectively just memory tests anyway.

Do I feel like the odd one out here? I feel like the odd one out everywhere I go, both in real life and on the internet. Despite my diagnosis being Autism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 / Asperger's Syndrome I certainly don't feel like I am high functioning most of the time.


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