What extactaly would a "cure" involve?

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MagicMeerkat
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21 Jun 2011, 2:45 pm

Whenever people like autism speaks and curbie parents talk about wanting a cure, I always wonder what this said "cure" would consist of. Gene therapy? Brain surgery? Or are they just going to throw us all into the robotzicer (okay, I'm a Sonic SatAM fan). I personaly don't think they are ever going to find a cure that dosen't involve abortion; but these curbies talk about a cure like it could be done to autistic people who are already born. I want to know extactaly what they have in mind.



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21 Jun 2011, 2:48 pm

NTs need to be cured, not us. It's a silly world indeed when people who see everything logically and rationally are the ones with "disorders."



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21 Jun 2011, 2:51 pm

A new brain.


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21 Jun 2011, 3:01 pm

Before I found the (non-curebie) parenting subforum here, I was on another one that had a mix of curebie and non.

What did the parents who wanted a cure think it would be? On that board, which was probably representational, they thought would be a diet (GFCF) or medication (yet to be invented) or therapy (such as ABA) that would make their children verbal (if non-verbal) and sociable and flexible.

Interestingly, both curebie and non-curebie parents might do the same thing (such as ABA) but the difference would be in expectations for the outcome. The non-curebie parents would hope the therapy would make their autistic kids move more smoothly through their lives. The curebie parents hoped the therapy would make their kids stop being autistic.

So when curebie parents talk about cure, they are talking about something their kids would ingest (medicine or diet) or therapy(ABA, for example) that would make their kids perceive the world in a more NT way. Clearly no such thing is possible. But it's what they mean by "cure".

If you look at "cure" anecdotes (that involve actual autism and not something mistaken for it) you will see that the child is just as autistic as before but has learned speech, or learned coping mechanisms. Some parents think that autism is rather like an outer layer that can be peeled away by diet, medication or therapy, revealing somebody with typical neurology. This isn't true, but it's a common delusion.



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21 Jun 2011, 3:41 pm

Jory wrote:
NTs need to be cured, not us. It's a silly world indeed when people who see everything logically and rationally are the ones with "disorders."


I absolutely agree.


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21 Jun 2011, 3:45 pm

SammichEater wrote:
Jory wrote:
NTs need to be cured, not us. It's a silly world indeed when people who see everything logically and rationally are the ones with "disorders."


I absolutely agree.


To apply the same question, what exactly would this cure consist of?



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21 Jun 2011, 3:50 pm

Janissy wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
Jory wrote:
NTs need to be cured, not us. It's a silly world indeed when people who see everything logically and rationally are the ones with "disorders."


I absolutely agree.


To apply the same question, what exactly would this cure consist of?


Genocide.

Or awareness education. Either one.



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21 Jun 2011, 3:54 pm

I offer this point of view as the mother of a child with disabilities. As a parent, I want my children to have a happy life; a life where his goals can be achieved with a reasonable amount of hard work, just enough disapointment and challenge to make the reward sweet and well-deserved, and the challenges in life just enough to keep life interesting.

A 'cure' to me would be tools that would allow children to achieve the goals they set for themselves; to allow them to dream their greatest dreams...and see them through to success. I'm pretty sure most parents want this for their children, whether it's conscious or not.

I'm just a visitor here; I don't know any of you personally, but after reading through the posts the last couple of days, I am overwhelmed by the amount of hurt I see in all of these posts. I perceive so much sadness, it seems almost unsurmountable. No parent would wish that for their child.



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21 Jun 2011, 3:54 pm

There isn't a cure yet, and I doubt there will be one anytime soon. I have no idea what a cure would consist of, nor does anyone else here. But if I could snap my fingers and everyone would become logical and rational like Spock, I would definitely do that. To be honest, I believe it is the only way humanity will be able to move forward.


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21 Jun 2011, 4:02 pm

SammichEater wrote:
Jory wrote:
NTs need to be cured, not us. It's a silly world indeed when people who see everything logically and rationally are the ones with "disorders."


I absolutely agree.


NT's don't need a cure. Those with an ASD don't need a cure.

All of us need to play nice.



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21 Jun 2011, 4:15 pm

Gene therapy. There are some Aspies who actually want to be cured. Perhaps you're better off than them: these people have serious sensory issues and are unable to study properly. Rather sad because they are quite intelligent. And they want to have a girlfriend but are unable to.



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21 Jun 2011, 4:15 pm

SyphonFilter wrote:
NT's don't need a cure. Those with an ASD don't need a cure.

All of us need to play nice.


I agree with that. Moreover, I believe we could learn from one/another.



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21 Jun 2011, 6:29 pm

i think they want to kill us all.



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21 Jun 2011, 6:34 pm

Jory wrote:
Janissy wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
Jory wrote:
NTs need to be cured, not us. It's a silly world indeed when people who see everything logically and rationally are the ones with "disorders."


I absolutely agree.


To apply the same question, what exactly would this cure consist of?


Genocide.

Or awareness education. Either one.

And they say we don't have a sense of humour. :lol:

On topic: they'd need to re-wire out brains, so it would probably require extremely precise nano-brain surgery combined with gene therapy to ensure we don't just slowly revert.



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21 Jun 2011, 6:39 pm

They would probably zap us with electricity to try and change our behavior



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21 Jun 2011, 6:40 pm

:? - I think an awful lot of people are SAYING "cure" but THINKING "corrective treatment"

BIG difference between the two...


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