Has anyone seen this criteria?
I am not saying this a good criteria because I don't know enough about that stuff, but which symptoms do you have on it?
GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers-Yes
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers-Sort of
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues-I think so
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior-Yes
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities-Kind of
(b) repetitive adherence-Yes
(c) more rote than meaning-I don't know that this means
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life-Yes
(b) on others-Not really
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development-No
(b) superficially perfect expressive language-Don't know what this means
(c) formal, pedantic language-Kind of
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics-No
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings-Yes
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures-No
(b) clumsy/gauche body language-Yes
(c) limited facial expression-No
(d) inappropriate expression-No
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze-No
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination-Yes
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.)
I don't have all the speech and language symptoms on this one.
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction-Kind of
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level-Yes
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)-I don't think so.......
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity-Yes
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus-Yes
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals-Kind of, more so when I was little
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)-A little bit
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects-No
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
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Canadian, young adult, student demisexual-heteroromantic, cisgender female, autistic
GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers-Yes
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers-No
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues-Yes
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior-Yes
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities-Yes
(b) repetitive adherence-Yes
(c) more rote than meaning-No
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life-Yes
(b) on others-Yes
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development-No
(b) superficially perfect expressive language-No
(c) formal, pedantic language-Yes
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics-Yes
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings-Yes
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures-No
(b) clumsy/gauche body language-Yes
(c) limited facial expression-No
(d) inappropriate expression-Yes
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze-Yes
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination-Yes
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.)
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction-Yes
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level-Yes
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)-Yes
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity-Yes
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus-Yes
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals-No
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)-No
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects-No
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.--Yes
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).--Yes (no delays)
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.-- Yes (no delays)
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia. -- Yes (criteria wasn't met for these)
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(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers-Yes
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers-Sometimes
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues-Most likely
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior-Probably
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities-Sometimes
(b) repetitive adherence-Not really
(c) more rote than meaning-I don't know that this means
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life-not sure quite what this means
(b) on others-not sure
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development-No
(b) superficially perfect expressive language-Don't know what this means
(c) formal, pedantic language-what?
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics-I think so
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings-Sometimes
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures-Yes
(b) clumsy/gauche body language-Yes
(c) limited facial expression-Sometimes
(d) inappropriate expression-Sometimes
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze-Yes
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination-I think so
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction-Yes
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level-Yes
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)-Much of the time
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity-Not quite sure what that means but I think so
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus-Sometimes
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals-Kind of, more so when I was little
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)-Yes
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects-No
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).Yes
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood. Yes
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
I don't fit the criteria for other PDDs.......and as far as I know I don't fit the criteria of schizophrenia.
The set of criteria of the Swedish Gillberg couple are well-known in some areas. I think they are or were used at Tony Attwood's clinic even, but I'm not quite sure on that.
It's interesting to note that a lot of people with a diagnosis of classical autism or PDD-NOS would receive a diagnosis of AS when these criteria are used. This abstract gives the following reasons for that:
It's a long time since I looked at the criteria and asked myself which (still) apply. The more I know about myself, the more I realise which criteria I still fit or always fitted, but never thought I did or never did to begin with because of what they really mean.
Bold ones = fit
DSM-IV-TR 299.80 Asperger's Disorder
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
I'd not be diagnosed with AS.
Dinner now, might do Gillbergs' later though personally, I dislike them.
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But... the two different criteria contradict. *twitchtwitch*
DSM IV: (bolds are true for me)
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people) - Complicated because I'm either extreme. When I do this, I way over do it. It really bothers my sister.
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
By this other sort:
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers - Complicated but I'm pretty sure a person diagnosing me would count this for me. I want friends, but I want friends who matter, not just random peers.
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities
(b) repetitive adherence
(c) more rote than meaning
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life
(b) on others
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development
(b) superficially perfect expressive language - Not sure what its wanting for this, I might qualify
(c) formal, pedantic language
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures
(b) clumsy/gauche body language
(c) limited facial expression
(d) inappropriate expression - Not sure
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination
I seem to rather strongly qualify on both of these. Was diagnosed using the DSM-IV
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities
(b) repetitive adherence
(c) more rote than meaning
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life
(b) on others
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development
(b) superficially perfect expressive language
(c) formal, pedantic language
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures
(b) clumsy/gauche body language
(c) limited facial expression
(d) inappropriate expression
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination (never had such an examination, but I have motor clumsiness)
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.)
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
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GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers-Yes
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers-Yes
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues-No
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior-Yes
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities-Kind of
(b) repetitive adherence-Yes
(c) more rote than meaning-No
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life-Yes
(b) on others-Not really
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development-Yes
(b) superficially perfect expressive language-Yes
(c) formal, pedantic language-yes
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics-Yes
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings-Yes
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures-No
(b) clumsy/gauche body language-Yes
(c) limited facial expression-Yes
(d) inappropriate expression-Somewhat
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze-No
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You do it because you feel you "have to" or "need to" do something, not because you get any particular payoff from doing it.
It means you tend to ritualize the entertainment value out of your hobbies. You don't do it because it's fun or offers any other benefit, you do it because it's become a ritual.
The ones I meet or believe I meet are in bold.
The ones I am not sure about are in italics.
GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities
(b) repetitive adherence
(c) more rote than meaning (I don't understand whether this implies that the interest isn't really understood or whether this implies that the purpose of having the interest isn't for a practical application. If this means that the interest isn't really understood then I don't meet this criteria, but if it means that the purpose of having the interest isn't for a practical application then I definitely do meet this criteria.)
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life
(b) on others (I definitely met this criteria when I was younger but do not now.)
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development
(b) superficially perfect expressive language
(c) formal, pedantic language
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures
(b) clumsy/gauche body language
(c) limited facial expression
(d) inappropriate expression
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.)
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people) (In certain areas I definitely lack this, but in certain areas I think I don't.)
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects (I met this when I was younger, but don't think I do now.)
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
I think it makes sense to include the PROPOSED DSM-V CRITERIA FOR AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER, too.
Autism Spectrum Disorder
Must meet criteria A, B, C, and D:
A. Persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across contexts, not accounted for by general developmental delays, and manifest by all 3 of the following:
1. Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity; ranging from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back and forth conversation through reduced sharing of interests, emotions, and affect and response to total lack of initiation of social interaction,
2. Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interaction; ranging from poorly integrated- verbal and nonverbal communication, through abnormalities in eye contact and body-language, or deficits in understanding and use of nonverbal communication, to total lack of facial expression or gestures.
3. Deficits in developing and maintaining relationships, appropriate to developmental level (beyond those with caregivers); ranging from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit different social contexts through difficulties in sharing imaginative play and in making friends to an apparent absence of interest in people
B. Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. Stereotyped or repetitive speech, motor movements, or use of objects; (such as simple motor stereotypies, echolalia, repetitive use of objects, or idiosyncratic phrases).
2. Excessive adherence to routines, ritualized patterns of verbal or nonverbal behavior, or excessive resistance to change; (such as motoric rituals, insistence on same route or food, repetitive questioning or extreme distress at small changes).
3. Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus; (such as strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interests).
4. Hyper-or hypo-reactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory aspects of environment; (such as apparent indifference to pain/heat/cold, adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or touching of objects, fascination with lights or spinning objects).
C. Symptoms must be present in early childhood (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities)
D. Symptoms together limit and impair everyday functioning. I don't understand whether this means that the symptoms limit my everyday functioning or whether this means that the symptoms limit and impair what would be considered everyday functioning by a normal person. I am capable of functioning, but my everyday functioning lacks certain aspects of what would be normal everyday functioning for most people. Does that mean that I meet this criterion or not?
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GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers - Yes
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers - Relatively speaking, yes
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues - Yes
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior - Sort of
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities - Yes
(b) repetitive adherence - Yes
(c) more rote than meaning - Somewhat
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life - Yes
(b) on others - No
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development - No
(b) superficially perfect expressive language - Only when I was younger
(c) formal, pedantic language - Only when I was younger
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics - Yes
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings - Sometimes
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures - No
(b) clumsy/gauche body language - Yes
(c) limited facial expression - Yes
(d) inappropriate expression - Yes
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze - yes
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination - Yes
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.) - Yes
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You do it because you feel you "have to" or "need to" do something, not because you get any particular payoff from doing it.
It means you tend to ritualize the entertainment value out of your hobbies. You don't do it because it's fun or offers any other benefit, you do it because it's become a ritual.
OK, then I wouldn't have that.
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You do it because you feel you "have to" or "need to" do something, not because you get any particular payoff from doing it.
It means you tend to ritualize the entertainment value out of your hobbies. You don't do it because it's fun or offers any other benefit, you do it because it's become a ritual.
OK, then I wouldn't have that.
I suspect this is one of those things that is a matter of professional observation - they deem it as more rote than meaning, and I suspect that to any of us, we perceive it much differently, with far more meaning.
This evaluation is based on feedback I have gotten from other people.
GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers - socially skilled neurotypicals only
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities - to some extent
(b) repetitive adherence
(c) more rote than meaning
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life
(b) on others
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development
(b) superficially perfect expressive language
(c) formal, pedantic language
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures
(b) clumsy/gauche body language
(c) limited facial expression
(d) inappropriate expression
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination - Not sure. I definitely have fine motor skills issues, but not so much gross motor difficulties.
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.)
This is how the shrink assessed me.
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level - I don't meet this criterion anymore, probably.
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
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Leading a double life and loving it (but exhausted).
Likely ADHD instead of what I've been diagnosed with before.
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I am not saying this a good criteria because I don't know enough about that stuff, but which symptoms do you have on it?
GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers-Yes
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers-Yes
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues-Yes
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior-Yes
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities-Yes, most of the time
(b) repetitive adherence-Yes
(c) more rote than meaning-I don't know what this means either, so maybe
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life-Yes
(b) on others-Yes, at least some of the time anyway
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development-Yes
(b) superficially perfect expressive language-No, not really
(c) formal, pedantic language-Yes
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics-Yes
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings-Yes
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures-Yes
(b) clumsy/gauche body language-Yes
(c) limited facial expression-Yes
(d) inappropriate expression-Yes
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze-Yes
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination-For a few things. I don't have Aspergers though, I have classic autism. I think most people with Aspergers have dyspraxia--I doubt I would qualify for that even though I am not the most graceful person.
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.)
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction-Yes
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level-Yes
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)-Yes, sometimes (not all the time though)
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity-Yes
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus-Yes
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals-Yes
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)-Yes, a lot
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects-Yes
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.--Yes
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).--No I had a language delay: no words until 2 1/2. While I could speak sentences on my third birthday, a month later I regressed to completely non-verbal and it took another 2 1/2 years to get back to speaking sentences again.
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.--Not sure about this one
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.--I have classic autism
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I'll try this.
GILLBERG'S CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
1.Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction
(at least two of the following)
(a) inability to interact with peers - not inability, but difficulty.
(b) lack of desire to interact with peers
(c) lack of appreciation of social cues
(d) socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior - as I've learned that things are inappropriate, I've stopped doing them, if possible. But yes.
2.All-absorbing narrow interest
(at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities
(b) repetitive adherence
(c) more rote than meaning
I suspect some of my adherence to my interests would be seen as "more rote than meaning" such as reading RPG rulebooks over and over and over again, but I get something out of it and would define it differently. Definitely repetitive, though.
3.Imposition of routines and interests
(at least one of the following)
(a) on self, in aspects of life
(b) on others
4.Speech and language problems
(at least three of the following)
(a) delayed development
(b) superficially perfect expressive language
(c) formal, pedantic language
(d) odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics
(e) impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings
5.Non-verbal communication problems
(at least one of the following)
(a) limited use of gestures
(b) clumsy/gauche body language
(c) limited facial expression
(d) inappropriate expression
(e) peculiar, stiff gaze
6.Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination
(All six criteria must be met for confirmation of diagnosis.)
DSM-IV DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR ASPERGER'S DISORDER
A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people) - I went back and forth, but I usually have to talk myself into it. No spontaneity.
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
Okay, I do have self-help skill and adaptive behavior delays, although I think most professionals do not even pay attention to this and most diagnosed with AS fail this criterion.
F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia. - I meet the criteria for autism, so I don't meet this one. It's another one that is not typically followed.
Most centres will use a combination of diagnostic criteria. The way ASDs are diagnosed is quite subjective as differing tools are used from diagnosis to diagnosis.
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6 year old boy with PDD-NOS
7year old girl with ADD, but has been very manageable
Me: Diagnosed bi-polar, medicated for 20 years now.