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The 'IQ' Study
Yeah, great research, totally solid 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
Nah, shoddy research, totally racist 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
Have you ever been to Dunedin? A perfect place.. 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
Cannabis = empathy = downplay your intelligence 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
The effect was only found in 23 of the 40 kiwis in the study of 1000 people 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
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16 Nov 2012, 5:58 am

Hi, as you may be aware, cannabis is starting to be decriminalised all over the world (see Colorado, Washinton, Uraguay).

There is still a lot of ignorance surrounding this plant and it's constituent chemicals. Let's knock it on the head.
Let's have your myths, and I'll show you the science to knock them down.


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16 Nov 2012, 6:01 am

I perform certain tasks better, after consuming cannabis. My ability to play music is a good example.


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16 Nov 2012, 6:40 am

I have not experimented with this... but I am of the belief that it is not noxious.

If it was legal I would try it today.



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16 Nov 2012, 6:55 am

FightingAspie wrote:
I have not experimented with this... but I am of the belief that it is not noxious.

If it was legal I would try it today.


Good for you sir. Just a little point: Cannabis cannot be 'legal' or 'illegal', only acts relating to it can be legal or illegal, so to be strictly accurate you'd say "I would use it today if that activity was legal."

Similarly, the 'War on Drugs' is actually a war on some people who are perceived to use some drugs.


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16 Nov 2012, 7:05 am

I donno i use to like it supposedly but nowadays I just paranoid and anxious.

It became really bad for me. Made all my worst traits that much worst.

Real bad sensory issues.

Really paranoid of other people.

Can hardly speak.

I can be quite dim witted, and it makes my time management that much worst.

Amplifies negative and depression.


Seriously other than the ocassional novelty it's the worst thing going.

I also found I'd get extremely dependent on it, as it caused great anxeity while off it, and just the same had a great deal while high.

It was crazy I literally had people believe I was full on autistic at points.



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16 Nov 2012, 7:24 am

When Im about to have a panic attack it calms me down also when I am about to have a meltdown and when negative self hating thoughts manifest in my head a few puffs make it go away and by the time the effects wear off I forget why I was freaking out and hating myself in the first place.


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16 Nov 2012, 7:51 am

I think there are definitely benefits to relieving anxiety and pain. Like anything, it affects people differently so you can't say it's a magical drug because that's not the response everyone has. Just like any drug, it's not risk-free.

I've never had success with prescription drugs for anxiety so I tried weed and it had huge benefits. The fact that I worried less helped me concentrate and made me more sociable.



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16 Nov 2012, 7:57 am

I think the illegal status of it accounts for much of the anxiety and paranoia some people report. If it were legal for recreational use and people didn't worry that they would be 'discovered' I think a lot of the anxiety would go away. I've had my rec for over 4 years now and it's a game changer.



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16 Nov 2012, 8:32 am

Rascal77s wrote:
I think the illegal status of it accounts for much of the anxiety and paranoia some people report. If it were legal for recreational use and people didn't worry that they would be 'discovered' I think a lot of the anxiety would go away. I've had my rec for over 4 years now and it's a game changer.


The hell, being caught has never ever ever been a worry of mine.

It's the fact that even a regular person seems more autistic when high, I seriously think your in denial if you think it actually helps.

In my experience people that say that are usually in a form of dependency.

Most research sugguests for spectrum folk, it makes thing much worst on the long term and only appears to lessen the symptons.

Granted I'll try to keep an open mind, and now that I'm less paranoid of my autistic traits will try again.



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16 Nov 2012, 8:39 am

depends widely on the person, even for many NT's it is a social lubricant, like alcohol.

dependency also happens with most medicine, so to say it is a detractor without keeping that in mind skews the picture.



and if you have that research then please post it here, allow us a chance to read it and check up on its peer review.


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16 Nov 2012, 8:51 am

I found it made my language usage significantly more difficult, and I could lose entire concepts (such as "names").



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16 Nov 2012, 9:08 am

I have no idea what the hell this "study" you are talking about is, and I don't think anyone but you does.

Please explain.

As for me, it has basically no effect on me. Zero. I don't know, why, but it doesn't.

But, I think drugs should be fully decriminalized, like prostitution. Both have existed since before recorded history, and hell, even are throughout many mammals. All that criminalization does is create a black market which fuels dangerous, powerful, criminal organizations which would be a bunch of poor punk kids otherwise, and that was proven in the 1920s in the USA. And, statistically speaking, usage has always been level. It's always been the same, legal or not.

So, legalize it, tax it, profit from it, make the least harmful stuff as cheap as possible and you'll not only have less crime, but less usage and less harm to people's lives. I don't know why the hell anyone has an issue with what one person does in the privacy of their own home that harms no one else.

But, tell that to politicians who have made their careers striking fear into the hearts of parents, local police departments who justify larger staff than necessary due to dealing with indirect and direct "crime" artificially created by these laws, for-profit prisons who are artificially majority-filled by these laws putting these people behind bars (and the small towns where this is their sole business now) and all those people whose entire careers have been in the DEA. This is why politicians never address it (including our president).

Last note: As I said earlier, it does nothing for me, so I don't do it. I'd just rather actually be able to visit places like Mexico, which have amazing history, but the same 500-year old Unesco World Heritage towns on my "bucket list" also have people's hacked up bodies ending up in their town square all the time from this garbage failed "drug war," making it a wee bit too risky to even consider it these days. We need to scrap that and bring back the "war on poverty." Priorities...



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16 Nov 2012, 9:17 am

When I was using cannabis it sent my epilepsy into remission and I have not had a seizure for two years. Another thing it was having a positive effect on my PTSD that I had since April 1974. I found that smoking spliff or eating spacecake made me crave a big hug and has an effect on my music collection. I also has some form of creativity that developed (the dampkring effect). It is not available here in the UK except by street dealers and it is still classified as a class B 'controlled'drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971. It would be nice for some coffeeshops to open here in the UK like there is in Amsterdam because the Netherlands is the only country that one can be in-and have a hassle free spliff or spacecake.

I do not like the way people use children and young people as an excuse to harass users it is like saying that cats being allowed to use catnip sends out the wrong message to kittens I wish propagandists in the media would not use children to emotionally blackmail people into the continuation of these illogical prohibition laws. :arrow:



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16 Nov 2012, 1:19 pm

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16 Nov 2012, 1:20 pm

Cannabis use makes achieving REM sleep more difficult.


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16 Nov 2012, 2:15 pm

Hey hey, look here...I've never drank to the point of being drunk, have only drank a handful of times in my life despite three years of college living, have never done a single drug ever and won't smoke weed even when it's properly legal despite living in Washington...because I'm a crazed control freak. As calming as drinking is supposed to be in social situations, the second I notice any change in my perception, I start to panic for fear of 'losing control.' Yeah, it's a problem. Anyway, if cannabis seriously benefits those with an autism spectrum disorder, then I'm all for its uses being legalized.


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