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21 Nov 2013, 9:33 am

if anyone on the spectrum is living with a family that doesn't understand them, then you could move to Viera, a community situated in Rockledge, Florida. It has homes that are under $200,000 and those just above it.



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21 Nov 2013, 9:58 am

I can't perceive of the advantage of such a move -- unless the community you've named is one that is ASD-dominant.

Otherwise, what would the benefit be? You might just as well move anywhere else if you had that sort of money available.

On the other hand, if someone on WP one day comes up with a workable plan for establishing an ASD community somewhere -- be that in a block of urban flats or on a self-sufficient farm in B*ttf*ck, Idaho -- then consider me interested.



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21 Nov 2013, 10:17 am

Anybody with two hundred grand to spend on a house would be much better off buying some acreage somewhere way out in the sticks. At least in my experience, the best "AS community" is a community of one, and acreage allows for that. Distances are so great out here that I rarely ever see my neighbors. I have my own little world inside my head, and another on the ground. I think this is the best we can do.



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21 Nov 2013, 10:31 am

my plan is to move needy spectrumites to viera so they can meet up and start a group



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21 Nov 2013, 10:32 am

Thelibrarian wrote:
Anybody with two hundred grand to spend on a house would be much better off buying some acreage somewhere way out in the sticks. At least in my experience, the best "AS community" is a community of one, and acreage allows for that. Distances are so great out here that I rarely ever see my neighbors. I have my own little world inside my head, and another on the ground. I think this is the best we can do.



agreed. i had the idea in my head that aspies would be just like me and everything would be great but thats not reality and i would probably find aspies annoying, especially the ones that have trouble respecting other people.

i would love to buy something in the outer Hebrides, which are those islands just off the north west coast of scotland. The price for stuff up there is amazingly cheap, I was browsing some classifieds a few years ago and saw a 40 thousand pound house with acres of land. The weather there is a lot milder than you'd expect due to the gulf stream, add internet access and it'd be perfect.

Saw this article and bookmarked it a while back, somewhere like this would be amazing. The thought of having a lighthouse to myself....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -225k.html



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21 Nov 2013, 10:43 am

woodster wrote:
Thelibrarian wrote:
Anybody with two hundred grand to spend on a house would be much better off buying some acreage somewhere way out in the sticks. At least in my experience, the best "AS community" is a community of one, and acreage allows for that. Distances are so great out here that I rarely ever see my neighbors. I have my own little world inside my head, and another on the ground. I think this is the best we can do.



agreed. i had the idea in my head that aspies would be just like me and everything would be great but thats not reality and i would probably find aspies annoying, especially the ones that have trouble respecting other people.

i would love to buy something in the outer Hebrides, which are those islands just off the north west coast of scotland. The price for stuff up there is amazingly cheap, I was browsing some classifieds a few years ago and saw a 40 thousand pound house with acres of land. The weather there is a lot milder than you'd expect due to the gulf stream, add internet access and it'd be perfect.

Saw this article and bookmarked it a while back, somewhere like this would be amazing. The thought of having a lighthouse to myself....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -225k.html


Interesting. My family's ancestral home is Islay, which is part of the Inner Hebrides. While I was in the Navy years ago, we spent a lot of time sailing around the outer Hebrides. They were so pretty that while it was only a wild fantasy, I dreamed of jumping ship and swimming to those islands.

One nice thing about living in a place like that is it's too far away for people to commute into a big city for work; the locals are completely different when not contaminated with modern, big city ideas. Extreme rural living is also good for my sensory issues; the peace and quiet where I'm at is almost palpable, and very pleasant.

Back in the 1890's, a doctor named Max Nordau wrote a book titled "Degeneration". In it he noted the huge increase in mental illness as Europe went from rural to urban. His theory is that noise and commotion cause mental problems. I'm not sure that's always the case, but I do think it is the case with us. Living way out here in the solitude and stillness is the ultimate tonic for my AS.



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21 Nov 2013, 11:24 am

woodster wrote:
Thelibrarian wrote:
Anybody with two hundred grand to spend on a house would be much better off buying some acreage somewhere way out in the sticks. At least in my experience, the best "AS community" is a community of one, and acreage allows for that. Distances are so great out here that I rarely ever see my neighbors. I have my own little world inside my head, and another on the ground. I think this is the best we can do.



agreed. i had the idea in my head that aspies would be just like me and everything would be great but thats not reality and i would probably find aspies annoying, especially the ones that have trouble respecting other people.

i would love to buy something in the outer Hebrides, which are those islands just off the north west coast of scotland. The price for stuff up there is amazingly cheap, I was browsing some classifieds a few years ago and saw a 40 thousand pound house with acres of land. The weather there is a lot milder than you'd expect due to the gulf stream, add internet access and it'd be perfect.

Saw this article and bookmarked it a while back, somewhere like this would be amazing. The thought of having a lighthouse to myself....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -225k.html


it wouldn't have to be all aspies. they would just add to the NTs already living there.



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21 Nov 2013, 11:43 am

Thelibrarian wrote:
Anybody with two hundred grand to spend on a house would be much better off buying some acreage somewhere way out in the sticks. At least in my experience, the best "AS community" is a community of one, and acreage allows for that. Distances are so great out here that I rarely ever see my neighbors. I have my own little world inside my head, and another on the ground. I think this is the best we can do.


That is my DREAM. My ideal situation. I will never have that kind of money, but if I did, that scenario is exactly what I'd be aiming for.

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21 Nov 2013, 11:46 am

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Anybody with two hundred grand to spend on a house would be much better off buying some acreage somewhere way out in the sticks. At least in my experience, the best "AS community" is a community of one, and acreage allows for that. Distances are so great out here that I rarely ever see my neighbors. I have my own little world inside my head, and another on the ground. I think this is the best we can do.


That is my DREAM. My ideal situation. I will never have that kind of money, but if I did, that scenario is exactly what I'd be aiming for.

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As our British poster noted, the problem isn't the price of the real estate so much as it is an almost total lack of any means to support one's self. It is also the case that if one moves to an unpopulated area, one doesn't need a huge amount of acreage.

Living the lifestyle I advocate, I can say that it is the ideal for aspies.



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21 Nov 2013, 11:51 am

but see viera is near rockledge which has support groups



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21 Nov 2013, 11:55 am

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but see viera is near rockledge which has support groups


No, there are no support groups out where I live. In fact, I've never met another aspie face-to-face--at least not one who would admit to it. The problems with crowded areas are other people and the noise and commotion that cause sensory issues. Therefore, I would recommend you try living in an uncrowded area before dismissing the idea. I say this on the grounds that we aren't sick as much as having needs different from NT's. We need quiet and stillness more than any kind of therapy or support.



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21 Nov 2013, 12:04 pm

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but see viera is near rockledge which has support groups


No, there are no support groups out where I live. In fact, I've never met another aspie face-to-face--at least not one who would admit to it. The problems with crowded areas are other people and the noise and commotion that cause sensory issues. Therefore, I would recommend you try living in an uncrowded area before dismissing the idea. I say this on the grounds that we aren't sick as much as having needs different from NT's. We need quiet and stillness more than any kind of therapy or support.


it's also near melbourne which has support groups. living in the country is great. the problem though is if you do, you may never meet an aspie face to face.



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21 Nov 2013, 12:08 pm

HDLMatchette wrote:
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but see viera is near rockledge which has support groups


No, there are no support groups out where I live. In fact, I've never met another aspie face-to-face--at least not one who would admit to it. The problems with crowded areas are other people and the noise and commotion that cause sensory issues. Therefore, I would recommend you try living in an uncrowded area before dismissing the idea. I say this on the grounds that we aren't sick as much as having needs different from NT's. We need quiet and stillness more than any kind of therapy or support.


it's also near melbourne which has support groups. living in the country is great. the problem though is if you do, you may never meet an aspie face to face.


You're right; I've never met another aspie face-to-face. Though I certainly have no objections to meeting other aspies, my life is as good as I can hope for without having done so. It's a small price to pay, especially with WP literally at the touch of my fingers.



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21 Nov 2013, 12:14 pm

I am getting desperate to move out, but I can't at the moment due to different circumstances, but as soon as I am sorted and ready, I will get my own place. I am getting seriously stressed out living at home, because my brother and I don't get along at all, and he won't move out, so I guess it's got to be me. Plus my mum has two sisters and a brother, and neither of them seem to have many friends at all (even though they're middle-aged NTs) and so they all find somebody's living-room to all hide out in at week-ends, and when they decide to choose our living-room, the house becomes almost as hectic as a clubhouse, and I've just got to get out. At least I have more friends to see than my NT relatives, so I get out and see them. Makes me feel good too. But I do like time to myself and the noise of activity and interaction from other people just drives me crazy. Not only people, it's also my cat what is doing my head in too, all she does is miaw, miaw, miaw and doesn't know when to stop. Yes I know I can't expect peace when living with people - which is why I'm looking into moving out in the not-too-distant future. The only thing what stresses me out is moving somewhere with noisy neighbours.

Sadly I can't just up and move to Canada, I know I get highly irritated with the pressure of my family but I still like to be near them.


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21 Nov 2013, 12:21 pm

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I am getting desperate to move out, but I can't at the moment due to different circumstances, but as soon as I am sorted and ready, I will get my own place. I am getting seriously stressed out living at home, because my brother and I don't get along at all, and he won't move out, so I guess it's got to be me. Plus my mum has two sisters and a brother, and neither of them seem to have many friends at all (even though they're middle-aged NTs) and so they all find somebody's living-room to all hide out in at week-ends, and when they decide to choose our living-room, the house becomes almost as hectic as a clubhouse, and I've just got to get out. At least I have more friends to see than my NT relatives, so I get out and see them. Makes me feel good too. But I do like time to myself and the noise of activity and interaction from other people just drives me crazy. Not only people, it's also my cat what is doing my head in too, all she does is miaw, miaw, miaw and doesn't know when to stop. Yes I know I can't expect peace when living with people - which is why I'm looking into moving out in the not-too-distant future. The only thing what stresses me out is moving somewhere with noisy neighbours.

Sadly I can't just up and move to Canada, I know I get highly irritated with the pressure of my family but I still like to be near them.


well if you wanna check out Viera, this is their site: http://www.vierarealtyinc.com/



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21 Nov 2013, 12:23 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I am getting desperate to move out, but I can't at the moment due to different circumstances, but as soon as I am sorted and ready, I will get my own place. I am getting seriously stressed out living at home, because my brother and I don't get along at all, and he won't move out, so I guess it's got to be me. Plus my mum has two sisters and a brother, and neither of them seem to have many friends at all (even though they're middle-aged NTs) and so they all find somebody's living-room to all hide out in at week-ends, and when they decide to choose our living-room, the house becomes almost as hectic as a clubhouse, and I've just got to get out. At least I have more friends to see than my NT relatives, so I get out and see them. Makes me feel good too. But I do like time to myself and the noise of activity and interaction from other people just drives me crazy. Not only people, it's also my cat what is doing my head in too, all she does is miaw, miaw, miaw and doesn't know when to stop. Yes I know I can't expect peace when living with people - which is why I'm looking into moving out in the not-too-distant future. The only thing what stresses me out is moving somewhere with noisy neighbours.

Sadly I can't just up and move to Canada, I know I get highly irritated with the pressure of my family but I still like to be near them.


Joe, how about Scotland, as one of the other posters discussed? I understand Scotland is a good ways from East Anglia. But it is also a cheaper and less crowded place to live. An NT computer programmer friend of mine just bought six acres with a house outside of Edinburgh. His wife is from Oxford and said that same place would have cost at least twice as much in southern England.