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26 Nov 2015, 4:38 am

I'm just wondering how much you guys care about people's gender. I don't usually care unless it's a gender specific conversation. I like how easy it is to hide gender on the internet. Unfortunately some people have no clue how to interact with people without knowing their gender.


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26 Nov 2015, 4:42 am

To me it doesn't matter. I am not dating.


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26 Nov 2015, 4:45 am

if it's a conversation about gender, then there's a reason

otherwise:

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26 Nov 2015, 7:35 am

I do believe there are some differences between men and women.
For example, women tend to be more talkative then men. I know differences like these are stereotypical generalizations, but those are formed based on normative experience.
So, it helps to know what someone's gender is.

A short reply from a man is interpreted differently than a short reply from a woman, for example.

I *personally* do not care what gender someone is, though I tend to get along better with guys.
I also do not care if someone doesn't "fit" the gender stereotypes. In fact, most of the females I have been most friendly with over the years have been tomboys. I also have had many guy friends who were very shy and others that were more effeminate.



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26 Nov 2015, 8:29 am

men are called mr, and women are called mrs or ms.
men wear pants and women wear dresses.
men have short hair and women have long hair.
men are hairy and women are smooth.
men are cranky and women are dreamy.
men build objects and women build nests.
men have deep voices and women have high voices.

if all that changed, how would i know what i am talking to?
i care as much as not calling a mr a mrs, or calling a madam a sir.
that is about it though.



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26 Nov 2015, 8:31 am

Doesn't matter to me 8O


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26 Nov 2015, 12:22 pm

i dont like gender. i just pretend i dont have a gender and neither does anyone else.


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26 Nov 2015, 12:23 pm

Gender is just a thing, like having blue eyes or brown.


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26 Nov 2015, 12:32 pm

As someone with gender issues and general confusion related to that, I tend to find alot of it to be either annoying or bizarre, or even restrictive at times.


b9 wrote:
men are called mr, and women are called mrs or ms.
men wear pants and women wear dresses.
men have short hair and women have long hair.
men are hairy and women are smooth.
men are cranky and women are dreamy.
men build objects and women build nests.
men have deep voices and women have high voices.

if all that changed, how would i know what i am talking to?


This is a pretty decent example of some of that. Alot of people tend to not just think of this stuff, but then also try to forcibly apply it to others, and if someone just still doesnt match those categories, something's wrong.

For me, in relation to that list:

I dont really get called "mister" or "missus" or whatever; usually I get "kid". Yes, I know this clashes with my age. I just try not to think about it too hard.

My outfits are extremely gender neutral.

I have long hair and a somewhat feminine body-shape.

My voice range is all over the place. Depends on my mood and level of excitement.
I'm cranky AND dreamy. Usually both at once. Or I'll just space out completely and be neither for awhile.

I dont build anything. It'd be a disaster.

In addition I have enough of an androgynous appearance that sometimes someone will mistake me for a girl.

So with all of that.... and there's way more to it than just that stuff.... yeah, I dont really fit the norm. And what bugs me is always getting people that'll try to get me to fit ANYWAY. Which hurts even more with the general issues I have related to it already; I have enough bloody confusion over the issue without people doing that.

And of course, if I do anything that's far enough outside of my stupid gender role that I'm supposed to adhere to, people can get really funky about it.


Mostly, I just wish people could be more accepting, and stop boxing absolutely everyone into these pre-set "roles" that are apparently the most important things ever. Bah.



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26 Nov 2015, 12:38 pm

Gender.....Bah Humbug!


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26 Nov 2015, 1:15 pm

I hate it when in online games someone says "by the way, I'm a girl, please be nice", she makes a "big thing" out of being a girl, and everyone gives her free items and kisses ass... yuk!



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26 Nov 2015, 1:37 pm

Fnord wrote:
Gender is just a thing, like having blue eyes or brown.

And yet some people get so angry - sometimes violently so - if someone else "changes" their perceived gender or if the perceiver is mistaken in their assignment of someone else. And to some trans people, long-term, enforced misgendering can be traumatic. Clearly to at least those two subgroups, it's a thing, but a really important thing.

Normal development of Self includes sex/gender & occurs at around 3-5 years old. Clearly there are those who have a strong identity as male or female from that age forward, and those who have a strong identity of being a mix or neutral (-ish). That much is neurological & genetic and quite well documented.

I think perhaps the messiness comes in when various societies assign, teach and enforce various values to those inherent identities?


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26 Nov 2015, 3:31 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
I'm just wondering how much you guys care about people's gender. I don't usually care unless it's a gender specific conversation. I like how easy it is to hide gender on the internet. Unfortunately some people have no clue how to interact with people without knowing their gender.

Not at all. I see each person as unique, and also as an entity that changes continually with context and over time.



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26 Nov 2015, 8:10 pm

Not at all, I don't think about it, if I like you, I like you.


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26 Nov 2015, 10:06 pm

I'm not going to treat anyone differently based on gender. And I know this as several people whom I thought were one gender turned out to be the other, and nothing changed in our interactions. Human beings are too complicated and behaviour too varied to restrict it to an expected binary gender stereotype.
I know which way I prefer to be interpreted for myself, but it doesn't bother me if someone independently interprets me as another gender. I dislike people being told what to think in most ways.


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26 Nov 2015, 10:09 pm

According to another thread, gender must mean a lot to me. Who'd a thunk?


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