any NT's in relationships with Aspies?
I used to be in a relationship with an NT and I have AS. I found it a bit difficult, not due to my behaviour but due to the distance between us.
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THOUGHT IT WAS THE END.
THOUGHT IT WAS THE 4TH OF JULY.
I WOKE UP AND THEN I REALISED,
I WAS NOT WHAT I HAD ALWAYS TRIED TO EMULATE.
INSTEAD A SHADOW OF FORMER GLORY.
AND THEN I CRIED.
Joined: May 24, 2005
Posts: 5
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:43 am
Post subject: any NT's in relationships
with Aspies?
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I have recently begun to suspect that
my husband has Aspergers. He was
diagnosed with ADD/depression, but
that just didn't seem to explain all his
behaviors. I've been trying to learn more
about it. Anyone else out there who might
have some input?
Let's start with the basics:
1)...What does he do that makes
you Hmmmm? about his diagnoses?
2)...What are the general characteristics
does he exhibit(I will probe deeper
with more information)?
3)...What do you do? and don't
do that brings out these traits?
4)...What external influence cause
these characteristics to come out?
Hmmmmm?
Laplantain,
have you ever heard of delphi forums? Their is a forum called "AS and their partners" to discuss some of the issues that come up in AS/NT. Just be careful you don't go to one called "as partners" where a bunch of NT women have a big aspie bash fest that they call "venting".They don't let aspies on it either. Unlike "as partners" both NTs and Aspies are allowed to post, and the enviorment in friendlier and more positive.
Have you ever heard of delphi forums? Their is a forum called "AS and their partners" to discuss some of the issues that come up in AS/NT. Just be careful you don't go to one called "as partners" where a bunch of NT women have a big aspie bash fest that they call "venting".
OMG!! I just looked there, that is an awful forum. The contempt and ignornace there is awful. Especially one poster who I was read who was referring to other AS husband as A$$Pies!
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I live my life to prove wrong those who said I couldn't make it in life...
Well, I am reading Loving Mr Spock, and it all sounds a lot like him, although I took the aspie quiz myself and scored a 98, which it said was pretty high but not high enough to be considered aspie. Then he took the quiz to humor me, and he came out less aspie than I did!
The main thing is that he is totally unable to accept that someone else could be feeling something different than him, even when our baby cries he just does not respond with any kind of empathy or understanding. Just as an example, if he feels the baby something hot out of the microwave without checking it, the baby will cry. Then he will say, "It's not too hot. I'm very sensitive to heat and it wouldn't be too hot for me." Well, the baby spit it out, it's steaming hot, and he's a good eater who will eat anything. He still insists that it isn't too hot.
Another example, he refuses to give light massages because he likes hard massages and doesn't understand why anyone else wouldn't. He never believed me when I was pregnant and said I was nauseous or craved something. In fact, he started to claim that HE was the one who was nauseous, craving foods, etc.
So we get into all these "discussions" about things that normally wouldn't even be issues, but to him are really hard to figure out. It takes him a really, really long time to even understand the tiniest little feeling or even stuff that just seem like common sense.
Well, I guess I'll try that other forum that someone posted about. I haven't seen it, but I guess I can understand that maybe they want to let off some steam because sometimes it can be very frustrating.
Do not be so rude! It is not his fault that he cannot feel empathy! I am sure that underneath this he is a lovely person with a huge heart. If you go on that forum with the anti-AS rednecks, you may have your brain nullified by their overwhelming stupidity!
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THOUGHT IT WAS THE END.
THOUGHT IT WAS THE 4TH OF JULY.
I WOKE UP AND THEN I REALISED,
I WAS NOT WHAT I HAD ALWAYS TRIED TO EMULATE.
INSTEAD A SHADOW OF FORMER GLORY.
AND THEN I CRIED.
about our son, he is 1 1/2 yr old, and he just spent his whole afternoon trying to figure out how to open our front door with my keys. When he was 7 mos, he could already sit for 30 minutes at a time and look at a book. That seems like a heck of a long attention span for a little baby, huh?
Joined: May 24, 2005
Posts: 8
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:47 pm
Post subject: what he does
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Well, I am reading Loving Mr Spock, and
it all sounds a lot like him, although I took
the aspie quiz myself and scored a 98,
which it said was pretty high but not high
enough to be considered aspie. Then he
took the quiz to humor me, and he came
out less aspie than I did!
The main thing is that he is totally unable
to accept that someone else could be
feeling something different than him,
even when our baby cries he just does
not respond with any kind of empathy or
understanding. Just as an example, if he
feels the baby something hot out of the
microwave without checking it, the baby
will cry. Then he will say, "It's not too hot.
I'm very sensitive to heat and it wouldn't be
too hot for me." Well, the baby spit it out, it's
steaming hot, and he's a good eater who will
eat anything. He still insists that it isn't too hot.
Another example, he refuses to give light
massages because he likes hard massages
and doesn't understand why anyone else wouldn't.
He never believed me when I was pregnant and
said I was nauseous or craved something. In fact,
he started to claim that HE was the one who was
nauseous, craving foods, etc. So we get into all
these "discussions" about things that normally
wouldn't even be issues, but to him are really
hard to figure out. It takes him a really, really
long time to even understand the tiniest little
feeling or even stuff that just seem like common
sense. Well, I guess I'll try that other forum that
someone posted about. I haven't seen it, but I
guess I can understand that maybe they want to
let off some steam because sometimes it can be
very frustrating.
And her son......!
about our son, he is 1 1/2 yr old, and he just
spent his whole afternoon trying to figure out
how to open our front door with my keys. When
he was 7 mos, he could already sit for 30 minutes
at a time and look at a book. That seems like a
heck of a long attention span for a little baby, huh?
Hmmmm? NT-Jedi, Hmmm! I say Aspie-Jedi they
be. Hmmmm-Ummm-Hnnnnn? Precious be
your gifts and learn to understand them
NT-Jedi, That be what I say....hmmmmm-Ummm-
Hnnnn!
In otherwords you have gifted walking geniuses?
One is asleep and the other is very-Oooh-Soooo!
very awake! Learn what you can about educating
the younger one and with patience and loving
guidance you can also probly awaken-somewhat
the sleeping one, Hmmmmm-Ummmm-Hnnnnn?
Sleeping Aspie-Giant Jedi he be!
Sincerely,
Yoda-Ghosthunter
I browsed through the "AS Partners" forum on Delphi, and found it quite interesting. Granted, most posters are disgruntled women who divorced their aspie husbands (or are in the process of doing so), often after many years of marriage, when their children are on their own. One can see that most of these marriages were mistakes, and both sides are partly guilty and partly innocent. The biggest blame should go to the fact that none of the spouses knew about AS when they were getting married. If they knew, they would be able to avoid the mismatch. But they didn't. I think that it is pointless and unfair for NT wives to blame their aspie husbands for being aspies, but I can understand their disappointment.
When I get past the negativity of the threads, however, I find many posts quite fascinating. They include quite detailed descriptions of mindblindness, and "aspieness" in general. Let's face it, many of these traits are not assets, and it's not easy to realize "from within" how exasperating to others they may be. A look from the outside, even if negative, can be a valuable lesson. Many aspie guys are portrayed on the forum as not being able to see past their noses. Frankly, I find it believable, as I have trouble considering other people's feelings and needs as well. The forum is a very good resource for learning on other people's failures, in order to, hopefully, avoid one's own.
Because of your post, Magic, I went to check out some of the posts in that forum.
Some of what they are saying really strikes a nerve in me. I read one thread about these woman's husbands walking out of the room while they are talking, or wanting them to be there at their husband's notice, but their husband not responding to them when they want attention.
That is one of the main reasons why I am reluctant to ever get into a serious relationship. I'm not sure I could handle another person's demands for attention. When I spend time with people, it is on my own terms. I guess you are right, Magic, some of what they've said is helpful in seeing ourselves from the outside.
On the other hand, some of their sarcastic remarks and nasty comments are really uncalled for. "Ass-pie," I mean, come on. Very mature
. And then drawing their kids into it and saying "Dear god, I hope he's not AS too!" and something along the lines of "The difference between being married to an aspie and owning a cat is that you can put the cat down if it bites you." ![]()
I am happy. I realise the mistakes I have made and I am willing to accept people as family as long as they forsake their predjudices.
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THOUGHT IT WAS THE END.
THOUGHT IT WAS THE 4TH OF JULY.
I WOKE UP AND THEN I REALISED,
I WAS NOT WHAT I HAD ALWAYS TRIED TO EMULATE.
INSTEAD A SHADOW OF FORMER GLORY.
AND THEN I CRIED.
Last edited by Malcolm_Scipo on 08 Jun 2005, 12:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
Yes, Civet, that forum is a difficult read. There is a lot of bitterness and little love. One can wonder what made many of those couples get together in the first place, when they obviously do not fit each other. It follows from that forum that sharing life with an aspie can be quite stressful and unfulfilling for an NT, especially if they expect a "normal" relationship. The result is an unending misunderstanding, alienation, and an inappropriate behavior on both sides.
In my case, oh well, I was never in danger of destroying any NT's life. I guess I am too weird (or otherwise unattractive) for any NT woman to even look at me.
I don't think that after 20 years of marriage a disgruntled wife would act on a prejudice. Rather the reason are years of bad experience, and resulting bitterness and regrets. True, some comments on the forum are quite rude. But as an aspie should not be blamed for being an aspie, an NT should not be blamed for being an NT, and being "incompatible" with their aspie spouse. Many posters on that forum wasted their lives in unfulfilling relationships, and it's no wonder that they are unhappy and angry.

