are there any IQ studies that've been done on aspies?

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i was looking for some but didn't have any luck. i'd like to know if there's merit to the idea that aspies are higher IQ on average than NTs and i'd like to compare the different subtests to see if the results for aspies are more skewed in favour of a certain area of intelligence such as verbal IQ rather than visual-spatial IQ.

Last edited by crippling autism on 14 Dec 2017, 4:24 am, edited 2 times in total.

The closest I have seen is people reffer to studies, of which apparently 2/3 aspies have a higher than average iq. I havent seen any of said studies linked though.

I've spent my life in schools for autistics and the majority of students haven't been geniuses.

But yeah often there's an area someone with autism excels at. I think of it as a part of the brain not impaired by autism working at a high level as a compensation. Nature trying to achive a balance.

Aspies frequently do well in the “verbal” subtests, not so well in the “performance” subtests.

I once scored 150 verbal, 90 Performance.

The geniuses may be better off in normal schools instead of schools for autistics if they can handle normal schools adequately.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=e ... B+iq&btnG=

Since your question was broad I did a broad search so there are other studies mixed in the results. When looking for actual research use scholar and have a specific question for better results. Happy hunting.

Are there any verbal subtests online similar?

Many IQ studies have been done but how relevant the results are is questionable. This link shows there is quite a difference depending on what and how the testing is done. I personally do better on nonverbal reasoning and I'm not alone among people with autism. I kick butt at the Raven's Progressive Matrices because it suits how my brain works.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4287210/

I suck in nonverbal reasoning. I'm pretty good in verbal reasoning.

That's why I don't like the whole IQ thing. If a test leans toward verbal reasoning it's great for people who are good at that not so good for people who are not. The Wechsler test only has one nonverbal reasoning section, all the other sections are verbal. It's a bias.

The Weschler's actually has about as many "performance" subtests as "verbal" subtests----at least the one I took, which was called the WAIS.

This is a good discussion of the problems.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... stic-kids/

It makes for sad reading because when kids are tested they get a number based on a certain type of test and if the test doesn't show their ability, people think they are not intelligent rather than the test is inadequate.

Autistics who are intellectually disabled are not diagnosed with Aspergers so by eliminating that group of people Aspies would on average have a higher IQ or intelligence than the general population.

I've never believed the myth of the high I.Q Aspie. Most of us who were diagnosed with Asperger's before the DSM changes were required to just score above 70 to receive an Asperger's diagnosis (among other things - no speech delays etc.).

What I believe is that are I.Q's are fairly in line with NT's but we tend to have more processing and executive function problems than the average non-autistic person. There is also a very high percentage of Aspie's with CAPD and Dyslexia.

That is such a good point. My sister doesn't have ASD but at school she was assessed and labelled with learning difficulties which people assumed meant she was stupid. Because people always viewed her as stupid, she internalized their view. It wasn't until she was in her 40's that someone suggested she could have dyslexia. Turns out she has severe dyslexia and she's actually quite bright. With proper assessment by a neuropsychologist, that took dyslexia into account, she has quite a high IQ. It makes me sad she spent so much of her life believing what people told her to believe.

well, by definition intellectually disabled peoples are a very small minority of the population so i doubt they would weigh down the overall median IQ of a population too much.
personally i'm just skeptical but i have a hunch that there is something to it, a lot of great minds in history (and today) seem to show various aspie traits and if this board is any indicator, a lot of people here seem very bright i must say. anyway i don't see any reason to necessarily dismiss it as a myth without any evidence to support that assertion.

well regardless of the intelligence aspect, i do think that aspies are more inquisitive and willing to go against the grain which could be a source of innovation. maybe more creative too. i guess these things are hard to measure but that's what i've observed at least and heard anecdotal evidence for.