New thread starts, and bumping-up old threads (necrobumping)

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27 Apr 2018, 6:31 pm

Voluntarily limiting both new thread-starts, and necrobumping can help maintain that important dynamic of WP.

I would include the question of whether to post a new reply, or quote a previous post in a given thread.

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* Limit New Thread Starts to 1 Per Day, Per Member?
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* How do You Regard The NECROBUMPING Of Old Threads on WP?
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27 Apr 2018, 7:13 pm

Bumping old threads is really annoying. For example, a thread that says "got exams next week and I'm nervous" and people reply and stuff and then the thread dies off, then 8 years later somebody bumps the thread by replying "it's normal to be nervous, I hope all goes well in your exams next week"...AAARRRGGHHH!! !!

I know newcomers who don't know how to use the site yet unintentionally bump old topics, but still, it's annoying. I sometimes bumped old threads when I was new here, and members would attack me for it and I got offended, but now I know why members got so pissed off with me! I relate completely! :P


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27 Apr 2018, 7:21 pm

I don't think there should be a one-thread-per-day limit on new posts. Sometimes I have more to say than that.

You could easily prevent necrobumping by locking threads idle for more than a year (or some other arbitrary age), and deleting threads older than say 5 years.

I hate necrobumping too, while I have no objections to no limits on new threads.


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27 Apr 2018, 7:36 pm

There doesn't seem to be a rule for necrobumping here. Usually in other forums there's time limit and a mod will lock such threads and ask users not to bump old threads. The problem with this and other forums is old threads with a similar topic are shown. Such as:

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27 Apr 2018, 9:11 pm

I would be opposed to limiting people to one new thread per day. Maybe if we had way too many new threads, but we don't, so let people create their threads.

I find necrobumping annoying, and would be in favour of auto-locking threads that haven't had a reply in 30 days or so. If people want to talk about a topic from an old thread, they can create a new one.


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27 Apr 2018, 10:34 pm

I also find necrobumping to be extremely annoying.


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28 Apr 2018, 2:04 am

I do think a constant flood of new posts can be somewhat annoying, but I feel like it's the nature of this website. A lot of it is new members who recently found out about Autism, so they're very excited and full of questions, and they start a lot of threads about topics that get covered frequently.

I must be the only one who actually likes necroposting :oops:

It is kind of confusing sometimes when someone replies to something someone said years ago, who doesn't even post here anymore, but a lot of times it is something new someone has to say that's relevant to the topic. Sometimes it's so relevant, that making a new thread and taking it out of context just wouldn't work.

I hate when sites prevent necroposting, and I have something relevant to add to a discussion, but I feel like if I started a new thread it would get zero replies, so I never bother.


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28 Apr 2018, 4:05 am

I assume that the old posts are just one click away because there is valuable information in the archives, and there is no point in everyone re-posting for a newer query. If the thread does not answer a new reader's point, they can at least get some continuity by reviving it.
I once quit a volunteer group for re-opening an issue that had been "settled" at the previous meeting, but I don't see any such protocol being violated here. For the questioner, it is either re-open, or open a new one, which generates just as much traffic on the index. The only thing I might change is the colour of the older dates, to make it easy to see where a thread is jumping in time.



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28 Apr 2018, 4:09 am

EzraS wrote:
There doesn't seem to be a rule for necrobumping here. Usually in other forums there's time limit and a mod will lock such threads and ask users not to bump old threads. The problem with this and other forums is old threads with a similar topic are shown. Such as:

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I can’t find it but there was a thread a few years ago when Alex said he was ok or liked it.

It used to really bother me when I first joined especially when I realized I had replied to a ten year old question without realizing it. I felt as if I had been conned somehow. Now I am used to it and have even necrobumped a few threads myself. I would not necrobump a thread that is more then two or three years old. The topic might be the same but with so many things about autism be it science or attitudes changing so quickly 10 year old threads are often the online version of historical documents


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28 Apr 2018, 4:34 am

Some threads are OK to be bumped, for example the "You Might Be Aspie If..." thread or something like that. But when people drag up old threads that were full of attacks and arguments, or a thread asking for advice to a situation that was probably solved or overcome 10 years ago, that's when it's annoying.
Bumping threads that are a few months old isn't necrobumping to me.

However I love going into the subforums here and seeing new threads. A few years ago the whole first page of GAD was full of new threads each day but it's not like that any more. :(

I do love the idea of older threads being a different colour though.


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28 Apr 2018, 5:18 am

Joe90 wrote:
Some threads are OK to be bumped, for example the "You Might Be Aspie If..." thread or something like that. But when people drag up old threads that were full of attacks and arguments, or a thread asking for advice to a situation that was probably solved or overcome 10 years ago, that's when it's annoying.
Bumping threads that are a few months old isn't necrobumping to me.

However I love going into the subforums here and seeing new threads. A few years ago the whole first page of GAD was full of new threads each day but it's not like that any more. :(

I do love the idea of older threads being a different colour though.


Yes to the second to the last point. The traffic has been slowing on WP in the last year or two. So I don't see the need to limit the number of new threads.



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28 Apr 2018, 5:52 am

I don't understand necrobumping, especially of threads asking for advice on something when the time has long gone by. At that point, there's a good chance the problem in question has already been solved. It's simply a matter of looking at the date the thread was initially posted.

I can't begin to count how many threads I've seen necrobumped here on WP and another forum I frequent lately, and it annoys me. If a thread does get necrobumped, I honestly think it should just be locked ASAP. That way, any further necrobumps are pre-emptively prevented, and everyone is spared a headache.


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28 Apr 2018, 6:06 am

The only topic that irks me by recurrence is driving. I wish there was a quick way to link to my previous posts on the subject.



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28 Apr 2018, 8:05 am

I don't think old threads should be deleted. I have had to go back to threads years back to get info I needed from old posts when I have done some research projects. Rather than necrobumping, if someone wants to refer to an old thread, they should just refer to it rather than restart it.

As far as new threads, Sometimes I might start a couple of threads like I did yesterday. As long as the threads are not repeats with a different title, it should be ok to start more than one on one day.


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28 Apr 2018, 8:27 am

Don't think new threads should be rationed.

Yes to the different colour idea.



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28 Apr 2018, 9:32 am

Wrongplanet will produce a list of related topics at the bottom of the page. There are four at the bottom of this very page (threads about threads). The youngest is 2013, the oldest is 2008.

Someone reading this thread is prolly noticing that list, but is at the same time NOT noticing the dates on them, and is checking those conversations out as we speak, and is now eager to respond to some post made eight years ago.

That seems to be the main mechanism that causes necrobumping. The "related topics" list.