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15 Nov 2005, 2:57 pm

Well, I am a hipercorrect person. I have perfect orthography, perfect pronunciation and speaking, do you have the same issue? (of course, I'm talking about when I'm speaking spanish, because I still need to learn more english...)



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15 Nov 2005, 3:07 pm

I don't pronunciate anything goodly.



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15 Nov 2005, 4:27 pm

I doubt any mortal, lest Jove have shone upon him with favor, has perfect pronunciation, diction, spelling, punctuation usage, and fluency. As a good example of irony (on alt.usage.english, they called it Skitt's Law), take a look at what hadapurpura wrote:

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Well, I am a hipercorrect [sic] person. I have perfect orthography, perfect pronunciation and speaking, do you have the same issue?

Although hadapurpura excuses himself from perfect English, the fact remains that he has made some mistakes: He misspelled hypercorrect as hipercorrect. He wrote a run-on sentence, breaking parallelism in the process: "I have perfect orthography, perfect pronunciation and speaking, do you have the same issue?" A good revision of that sentence would be, "I have perfect spelling, perfect pronunciation, and perfect fluency. Do you have the same issue?"

Overly formal, pedantic language is a diagnostic criterion for Asperger's syndrome, according to Gillberg and Gillberg's definition. Many of us probably share this feature, but I doubt any of us would claim complete perfection. By the way, hypercorrection usually means correction to the point of error. In the past, throne was spelled trone and pronounced likewise; someone eventually decided it would be more etymologically correct to spell it throne because it comes from Greek, even though the th in Greek would be pronounced like a normal t in English. People eventually started pronouncing the word as it was written. There are other hypercorrections that really are wrong in contemporary English, but I cannot think of any examples off the top of my head.



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15 Nov 2005, 4:49 pm

I think Hadapurpa is a she, and seeing how you spell favour reminds me that perfection is only relative :wink:



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16 Nov 2005, 9:27 am

I can be quite a perfectionist, especially when I am writing. I also tend to notice mistakes other people make in spelling and/or grammar. In pronunciation, well, let us just say that it's a little off normal. It is not incorrect, but there are more correct (especially for the area I live in) ways to say different words that apparently I do not follow.

Hey, I'm American, but I spell favour with an "ou". Always have, always will. And I've gotten marked down on my (British English) literature papers because of this. :roll:


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16 Nov 2005, 12:01 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
I doubt any mortal, lest Jove have shone upon him with favor, has perfect pronunciation, diction, spelling, punctuation usage, and fluency. As a good example of irony (on alt.usage.english, they called it Skitt's Law), take a look at what hadapurpura wrote:
hadapurpura wrote:
Well, I am a hipercorrect [sic] person. I have perfect orthography, perfect pronunciation and speaking, do you have the same issue?

Although hadapurpura excuses himself from perfect English, the fact remains that he has made some mistakes: He misspelled hypercorrect as hipercorrect. He wrote a run-on sentence, breaking parallelism in the process: "I have perfect orthography, perfect pronunciation and speaking, do you have the same issue?" A good revision of that sentence would be, "I have perfect spelling, perfect pronunciation, and perfect fluency. Do you have the same issue?"

Overly formal, pedantic language is a diagnostic criterion for Asperger's syndrome, according to Gillberg and Gillberg's definition. Many of us probably share this feature, but I doubt any of us would claim complete perfection. By the way, hypercorrection usually means correction to the point of error. In the past, throne was spelled trone and pronounced likewise; someone eventually decided it would be more etymologically correct to spell it throne because it comes from Greek, even though the th in Greek would be pronounced like a normal t in English. People eventually started pronouncing the word as it was written. There are other hypercorrections that really are wrong in contemporary English, but I cannot think of any examples off the top of my head.


Hi!! ! I'm a she. And I know I don't have a perfect english, that's why I say I'm a hypercorrect person when speaking spanish, of course, a second language is a different thing, it's not very probable to be hypercorrect when speaking a second language, like english in my case.



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16 Nov 2005, 12:36 pm

For nerumuos resanos byenod the one i am iullstrtaing hree i dnot crae mcuh for sllpenig. I fgirue if the msesgae was caler eoungh so you cluod crorcet me, it was cealr eougnh to go whtiuot crorcetion.


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16 Nov 2005, 3:29 pm

Maybe so, but it can still make the reader's eyes bleed. :P



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16 Nov 2005, 6:56 pm

Namiko wrote:
Hey, I'm American, but I spell favour with an "ou". Always have, always will. And I've gotten marked down on my (British English) literature papers because of this. :roll:[/color]


Hero...Simple as that.
Though...Being an Australian we use "British English" for most of our words, yet I tend to spell some words like colour as color, cos I'm lazy. hehe

Many people have called me a "nitpick" for the way I constantly correct peoples' spelling, and sometimes pronounciation. Though I, too, can sometimes be incorrect.

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17 Nov 2005, 6:36 am

*grins* Me and a few of my Australian Aspie friends get asked if we have an English accent: I think it's because of our use of correct diction! What is orthography though?


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17 Nov 2005, 6:38 am

Hand-writing I believe.



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18 Nov 2005, 7:45 am

Well in that case Hadapurpura, you are the exception! It would appear that Aspies are far more prone to disgraphia than perfect orthography!


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18 Nov 2005, 11:12 pm

Nomaken wrote:
For nerumuos resanos byenod the one i am iullstrtaing hree i dnot crae mcuh for sllpenig. I fgirue if the msesgae was caler eoungh so you cluod crorcet me, it was cealr eougnh to go whtiuot crorcetion.

I can understand that, but it sounds like crunchy, slurred gibberish to my inner ear.


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19 Nov 2005, 5:00 am

PhoenixKitten wrote:
*grins* Me and a few of my Australian Aspie friends get asked if we have an English accent: I think it's because of our use of correct diction! What is orthography though?


Cooee cobber, me headsmarts be nodding a yes, coz I be an Oztrailyen and I use the goods Queens English perfunctly.



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19 Nov 2005, 11:10 am

yes, when reading it, the words in your head sound all scrambled, but you understand their meaning.


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