ASPartOfMe wrote:
babybird wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
babybird wrote:
When I was young we used to call each other "mong" or "joey".
Huh?
American grade school kids have been calling each other "spaz" since before my time in the early Sixties, and "ret*d" since at least my time. I have never heard "mong" or "joey". A 'joey' is a baby kangaroo AFAIK. What does "mong" mean?
Well I'm UK so its more than likely a cultural thing. Mong comes from Mongol which people used to call those with downs syndrome and joey comes from Joey Deacon who was a guest on a children's show in the 80's. He had some kind of condition. The very next day across the UK all the kids were calling each other "joey". It is the same as "spaz". This is a term we also like to use as well.
Mongoloid was indeed the old term for Down's syndrome.
I thought Mongoloid was a term for people from Mongolia. I just looked up both those words on google & I'm rite. I wonder why/how Mongoloid became a term for Down's Syndrome
TheOther wrote:
I know I am in the minority on this, but things like this don't bother me.
I think it is possible to use words which are offensive without necessarily being a bigoted person.
Autistic people have certain characteristics which stick out, and people are going to notice this and reference it. It is just human nature to see and work in patterns (which is why we see 'faces' in certain fronts of cars, and see how clouds look like different objects).
Speaking of the word ret*d, it strikes me as really interesting how many words used to describe mentally impaired people have been invented over the years.
Words like idiot, stupid, ret*d, imbecile, etc have all at one time been objective medical term used to describe a certain set of symptoms.
People invariably then adopt the word as an insult, and then the word changes to reduce stigma. People then adopt the new word as an insult, and the cycle continues.
I think it is far healthier to laugh it off. Everyone has some problem that someone else is insensitive to. I choose to not take myself so seriously such that maybe I can enjoy the humor in it a little. It beats the hell out of feeling sad all of the time.
I like how you think. I think words like ret*d have become slang words & do not have people with diagnosed things like Down Syndrome in mind. The meaning of ret*d has changed & some could apply it to Down Syndrome but it no longer means a person with Down Syndrome. In fact I also think a lot of the people who use the word ret*d would not apply it to someone who they knew had Down Syndrome. I call myself ret*d sometimes but I am NOT thinking or comparing myself to someone with Down Syndrome when I do it. I just looked the word up on google & it says
adjective: ret*d
dated•offensive
less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.
"the child is badly ret*d"
informal•offensive
very foolish or stupid.
"in retrospect, it was a totally ret*d idea"& I am using it to mean I'm not grasping things my peers are. I'm NOT saying people with Down Syndrome don't grasp things & I'm being like them, I just mean I personally do not grasp things & I do NOT have Down Syndrome in mind or am comparing myself to people who do in any way. I actually did not know till recently that the word ret*d used to be a diagnostic label for people with Down Syndrome. How could I know that I'm being offensive to people with Down Syndrome when I had no clue that the disorder had anything to do with them other than that they may both have problems grasping things but I was NOT thinking about them when I used it.
I do not have a clue why the word Autistic means Troll now & think the only thing we can really do as a community about this is to push to change the word Autistic to a different word. Everyone will get a new diagnostic term to use & the word Autistic will be used only as a slang term.