30 Dec 2009, 1:55 pm
Horse wrote:
Heres a nice picture of myself
Nice considering I headbutted a moving car the night before. Ended up with a pretty cool scar though.
Nice considering I headbutted a moving car the night before. Ended up with a pretty cool scar though.
Oh my goodness, that looks so painful. I hope it's not permiment and I hope it healed up quickly.
30 Dec 2009, 2:04 pm
30 Dec 2009, 2:29 pm
30 Dec 2009, 2:30 pm
Horse wrote:
Heres a picture of me as a baby
You are hilarious!! !
30 Dec 2009, 2:48 pm
30 Dec 2009, 3:55 pm
prism_tail_rainbows wrote:
bleh
huge jew nose is.. obvious.
At least one genuinely gorgeous person bothered to respond.
LipstickKiller and bdhkhsfgk are also pretty cute.
30 Dec 2009, 4:02 pm
30 Dec 2009, 4:11 pm
Yupa wrote:
prism_tail_rainbows wrote:
bleh
huge jew nose is.. obvious.
At least one genuinely gorgeous person bothered to respond.
LipstickKiller and bdhkhsfgk are also pretty cute.
Just to let you know, I'm a boy
30 Dec 2009, 4:35 pm
sunshower wrote:
elderwanda wrote:
sunshower wrote:
millie wrote:
sunshower wrote:
harlequinsenor wrote:
As a pretty woman though I don't think AS would affect her much on any substantial romantic level in terms of relationships considering that men are usually expected to make the initial advance.
You have no idea.
i have to agree with Sunshower, here.
Surely, the incredible beauty, coupled with the "invisible disability of AS" could actually lead to a whole host of other problems, particularly for young women. There could be issues of being targeted and manipulated sexually and/or on dates etc., sexual assault, date rape. Of course there may also be heightened expectations regarding "appropriate behaviour" from others, which may create added pressure to try to fit in and adhere to the group.
We need to be careful about assumptions regarding how it is for others on the spectrum......
Yes, being at least a relatively pretty/attractive woman with AS can cause a whole host of other "invisible problems" (alongside the usual ones you hear people talk about on WP). It certainly doesn't make dating any easier; the social complexities involved in the right ways to react when being hit on/having someone you just consider a friend try to take the friendship further/trying to deal with attention from more than one person at a time/and then ESPECIALLY with trying to deal with the things millie makes reference to, such as sexual manipulation, are beyond comprehension.
It's a whole new ball game, and it certainly doesn't someone make it any "easier" to find a relationship. Just because someone makes an advance towards you, doesn't mean your feelings are reciprocated. And vice versa. It isn't that easy.
And you don't even need "incredible beauty" to be in this situation. The combination of being pretty/relatively attractive and socially naive/socially blind is enough. I couldn't imagine the sort of difficulties and dangers someone like Heather Kuzmich would face on a daily basis.
I agree with all of this. I'm going to try to resist the temptation to make this another one of my 20-paragraphs of anecdotes posts, which I know I'm prone to do. But, even though I sometimes have my doubts and insecurities about whether or not I'm actually on the autistic spectrum, this is one topic that I know all too well. When it comes to being socially clueless, this was the area where I excelled.
I've never considered myself attractive, but when I was in my teens and early 20's, I was reasonably fit and good-looking, although not in a model kind of way. I was also unbelievably naive and gullible, and had no clue what appropriate or inappropriate behavior was when it came to how I was treated by men or how I conducted myself. I knew some basic stuff, so I thought I was wise. But I managed to fall prey to all kinds of sexual manipulation and abuse, as well as probably hurting some other people myself, without even realizing it until years later, because of a total lack of understanding about how the social-sexual-dating world works.
As far as the rest of the thread goes, I don't know. It's nice to see people's pictures if they want to share. There are a number of people on WP who I might put in the "beautiful" category, if I was inclined to categorize people like that, but it wouldn't have anything to do with their physical features, or whether or not they are capable of taking a picture of themselves without holding the camera two inches away from their chin. It would have to do with the way they present themselves in their posts. Some of them are people who are sure no one else likes them, and some are people who seem confident with who they are. Some seem to be obviously autistic and some not so much. Some are very young and some are older than me. Some are fat, and some are skinny. Anyway, that's all I'm saying about that. WP isn't a beauty contest.
I think this topic is often overlooked and needs some serious discussion. Maybe we should consider making it a thread in Love and Dating/Womens Forum? Any volunteers?
I currently find myself in this sort of position and I think that I do get sexually manipulated at times. One friend I hooked up with asked me why I reciprocated, and I said because I felt I could trust him, and he said I shouldn't.
I agree with what's been said so much and totally think it ought to be made into a thread. I think the Womens forum might be the best place if we want to avoid guys (especially younger guys) getting snarky. I'm only saying that because I made a comment in the Adult forum and some young guy told me (in a nice way) that it probably wasn't a topic for girls and that there's no such thing as nice girls.
He was just young and I pointed out to him that I had been nice. 
By the way, hi girls, my name is Kelly and I live in Australia (NSW north coast). Might think about posting the topic.
30 Dec 2009, 4:41 pm
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Yupa wrote:
prism_tail_rainbows wrote:
bleh
huge jew nose is.. obvious.
At least one genuinely gorgeous person bothered to respond.
LipstickKiller and bdhkhsfgk are also pretty cute.
Just to let you know, I'm a boy
Yep, I know.
But you are quite cute, if you don't mind my saying so.
30 Dec 2009, 4:42 pm
Yupa wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Yupa wrote:
prism_tail_rainbows wrote:
bleh
huge jew nose is.. obvious.
At least one genuinely gorgeous person bothered to respond.
LipstickKiller and bdhkhsfgk are also pretty cute.
Just to let you know, I'm a boy
Yep, I know.
But you are quite cute, if you don't mind my saying so.
This really shows how subjective such a topic is. They would not have been my picks, though I do not find them unattractive at all.
Yupa, did you share a picture? I'm curious.
30 Dec 2009, 4:42 pm
Yupa wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Yupa wrote:
prism_tail_rainbows wrote:
bleh
huge jew nose is.. obvious.
At least one genuinely gorgeous person bothered to respond.
LipstickKiller and bdhkhsfgk are also pretty cute.
Just to let you know, I'm a boy
Yep, I know.
But you are quite cute, if you don't mind my saying so.
I don't
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30 Dec 2009, 4:45 pm
Let's throw in my lot. I'm not exactly gorgeous, but I've come to accept how I look. That's already a big advance, for me at least.
30 Dec 2009, 4:59 pm
mysassyself wrote:
sunshower wrote:
elderwanda wrote:
sunshower wrote:
millie wrote:
sunshower wrote:
harlequinsenor wrote:
As a pretty woman though I don't think AS would affect her much on any substantial romantic level in terms of relationships considering that men are usually expected to make the initial advance.
You have no idea.
i have to agree with Sunshower, here.
Surely, the incredible beauty, coupled with the "invisible disability of AS" could actually lead to a whole host of other problems, particularly for young women. There could be issues of being targeted and manipulated sexually and/or on dates etc., sexual assault, date rape. Of course there may also be heightened expectations regarding "appropriate behaviour" from others, which may create added pressure to try to fit in and adhere to the group.
We need to be careful about assumptions regarding how it is for others on the spectrum......
Yes, being at least a relatively pretty/attractive woman with AS can cause a whole host of other "invisible problems" (alongside the usual ones you hear people talk about on WP). It certainly doesn't make dating any easier; the social complexities involved in the right ways to react when being hit on/having someone you just consider a friend try to take the friendship further/trying to deal with attention from more than one person at a time/and then ESPECIALLY with trying to deal with the things millie makes reference to, such as sexual manipulation, are beyond comprehension.
It's a whole new ball game, and it certainly doesn't someone make it any "easier" to find a relationship. Just because someone makes an advance towards you, doesn't mean your feelings are reciprocated. And vice versa. It isn't that easy.
And you don't even need "incredible beauty" to be in this situation. The combination of being pretty/relatively attractive and socially naive/socially blind is enough. I couldn't imagine the sort of difficulties and dangers someone like Heather Kuzmich would face on a daily basis.
I agree with all of this. I'm going to try to resist the temptation to make this another one of my 20-paragraphs of anecdotes posts, which I know I'm prone to do. But, even though I sometimes have my doubts and insecurities about whether or not I'm actually on the autistic spectrum, this is one topic that I know all too well. When it comes to being socially clueless, this was the area where I excelled.
I've never considered myself attractive, but when I was in my teens and early 20's, I was reasonably fit and good-looking, although not in a model kind of way. I was also unbelievably naive and gullible, and had no clue what appropriate or inappropriate behavior was when it came to how I was treated by men or how I conducted myself. I knew some basic stuff, so I thought I was wise. But I managed to fall prey to all kinds of sexual manipulation and abuse, as well as probably hurting some other people myself, without even realizing it until years later, because of a total lack of understanding about how the social-sexual-dating world works.
As far as the rest of the thread goes, I don't know. It's nice to see people's pictures if they want to share. There are a number of people on WP who I might put in the "beautiful" category, if I was inclined to categorize people like that, but it wouldn't have anything to do with their physical features, or whether or not they are capable of taking a picture of themselves without holding the camera two inches away from their chin. It would have to do with the way they present themselves in their posts. Some of them are people who are sure no one else likes them, and some are people who seem confident with who they are. Some seem to be obviously autistic and some not so much. Some are very young and some are older than me. Some are fat, and some are skinny. Anyway, that's all I'm saying about that. WP isn't a beauty contest.
I think this topic is often overlooked and needs some serious discussion. Maybe we should consider making it a thread in Love and Dating/Womens Forum? Any volunteers?
I currently find myself in this sort of position and I think that I do get sexually manipulated at times. One friend I hooked up with asked me why I reciprocated, and I said because I felt I could trust him, and he said I shouldn't.
I agree with what's been said so much and totally think it ought to be made into a thread. I think the Womens forum might be the best place if we want to avoid guys (especially younger guys) getting snarky. I'm only saying that because I made a comment in the Adult forum and some young guy told me (in a nice way) that it probably wasn't a topic for girls and that there's no such thing as nice girls.
He was just young and I pointed out to him that I had been nice. By the way, hi girls, my name is Kelly and I live in Australia (NSW north coast). Might think about posting the topic.
Nice to meet you Kelly! Thanks for the offer, that would be great. I'm from Australia, QLD - I live between Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast.
30 Dec 2009, 5:25 pm
dddhgg wrote:
Let's throw in my lot. I'm not exactly gorgeous, but I've come to accept how I look. That's already a big advance, for me at least.
Haha I honestly assumed you looked like the guy in your avatar picture despite the fact its a cartoon character. You look pretty cool.
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