Sarcastic_Name wrote:
I haven't seen all the movie yet (watching it at school), but the phantom form "Phantom of the Opera" is difinitely AS or HFA. Obsessive-Romanticism, social ineptitude, generally uncomfortable around people, and doesn't like change unless he wants it. Definitely musically gifted also. It scares me, because I was reminded of myself when watching the movie. I can relate to this character in so many different ways.
EDIT: Finished watching movie, he's definitely still AS or HFA.
I've only seen the film based on the musical (I have no idea what version your refering too), but from that and the little I do know about the original story (I say this because the following is based only on that and may be inaccurate), he seems too good at manipulating people (Christine in particular) to have AS/HFA and wouldn't having limited human contact explain the lack of other social skills and difficulty around people? The obsessiveness maybe, but the other traits don't seem too AS/HFA considering the situation.
I'm pretty sure that in the book he hasn't spent most of his life living down a hole like in the musical (I think he was an architect, but I may be wrong), but still I bet if even an NT spent six-months or so with out seeing or hardly seeing other humans they might still be uncomfortable around them. Even forgetting the isolation, considering his disfigurement he would probably have self-confidence and stigma issues.
ghotistix wrote:
I'm currently reading Margaret Atwood's Oryx and Crake. When I was about halfway through the book, I was trying to figure out if the character Crake had AS when I turned the page and saw a chapter named "Asperger's U.", referring to the university Crake attends.
Here are a couple passages. Some stuff is confusing like the pleebland stuff, but you can just ignore that.
After five or six months Crake loosened up a bit. He was having to work harder than at HelthWyzer High, he wrote, because there was a lot more competition. Watson-Crick was known to the students there as Asperger's U,because of the high percentage of brilliant weirdos that strolled and hopped and lurched through its corridors. Demi-autistic, genetically speaking; single-track tunnel-vision minds, a marked degree of social ineptitude -- these were not your sharp dressers -- and luckily for everyone there, a high tolerance for mildly deviant public behaviour.
"More than at HelthWyzer?" asked Jimmy.
"Compared to this place, HelthWyzer was a pleebland," Crake replied. "It was wall-to-wall NTs."
"NTs?"
"Neurotypicals."
"Meaning?"
"Minus the genius gene."
I love the refreshing way AS is portrayed. Not as a disorder but as a different, sometimes better way of thinking.
Jimmy was becoming annoyed by Crake's way of introducing him -- "This is Jimmy, the neurotypical" -- but he knew better than to show it. Still, it seemed to be like calling him a Cro-Magnon or something. Next step they'd be putting him in a cage, feeding him bananas, and poking him with electroprods.
Did the author of that have Asperger's by any chance?
Sounds like my idea of a dream (Referring to the part, I've highlighted in bold).
EDIT: Interestingly, when I first saw the Film (as in the one based of the Andrew Lloyd Webber version), I thought Raoul was the bad one for stealing Christine but then I often get the wrong end of the stick with films.

. I still think that the phantom in that version isn't so bad ...apart from hanging a few people ...but then he has really bad "issues".
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