Playing the Autism Card May Be Harmful to Humanity

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Well, it was certainly not meant to cause any kind of offence; rather it was intended to make you smile: It was a joking remark in a light-hearted vein, and I'm sorry that it has been perceived in any other way.

I won't delete it, because things get difficult to follow if we all start doing that, but will gladly hereby withdraw the remark for any offence it may have caused.

Then again, if you insist on deletion, let me know and I'll oblige.

There are a lot of hits on this thread, but how many people are actually trying to understand the material being given here?....even if only a few. that would be a lot, at least according to the principle slow is fast.

Something interesting about brass and bronze...brass has within it the word as and also the consonant base br which is very rich and interesting in that by placing vowels within we can make two seemingly contrary meanings, bar and bear (to give birth). And in bronze we also find br and we find on and at the end of one word we find ss and at the end of the other word z(e). To understand the similarity between between s and z (though they are non-identical), it would be necessary to ponder the meaning of various letters, which is very fun and interesting..The way to do it is to look at the shapes of these letters, plus observe their usage in many different words (contexts) and see how the use correlates to the meanings of the words, such as in "spin" or s used at the end of a word to designate a plural and with z, cozy or zen, and if you really want to think very hard, "zebra.".

Now back to the word "bear:"

From Dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bear

verb (used without object)
23.
to tend in a course or direction; move; go: to bear west; to bear left at the fork in the road.
24.
to be located or situated: The lighthouse bears due north.
25.
to bring forth young or fruit: Next year the tree will bear.
Verb phrases
26.
bear down,
a.
to press or weigh down.
b.
to strive harder; intensify one's efforts: We can't hope to finish unless everyone bears down.
c.
Nautical . to approach from windward, as a ship: The cutter was bearing down the channel at twelve knots.
27.
bear down onupon,
a.
to press or weigh down on.
b.
to strive toward.
c.
to approach something rapidly.
d.
Nautical . to approach (another vessel) from windward: The sloop bore down on us, narrowly missing our stern.
28.
bear off,
a.
Nautical . to keep (a boat) from touching or rubbing against a dock, another boat, etc.
b.
Nautical . to steer away.
c.
Backgammon. to remove the stones from the board after they are all home.
29.
bear onupon, to affect, relate to, or have connection with; be relevant to: This information may bear on the case.
30.
bear out, to substantiate; confirm: The facts bear me out.
Idioms
33.
bring to bear, to concentrate on with a specific purpose: Pressure was brought to bear on those with overdue accounts.

So this is good material, right? All of it can rather easily be related back to (left and right) brain function and is a path to begin to understand autistic encapsulation..What is fascinating to me is that generally speaking the average psychologist or anyone probably understand the basic idea of encapsulation or even, generally speaking, of autistic encapsulation, but no one as far as I know has ever connected it to the idea of human brain function in general. Well, the way is is also the way out. This is material that can and will be applied, though it may take a while to get to the practical application part.

However someone did send me this in an email last night:

No road leads the way.
The road follows behind. --Takamura Kotaro

Generally people, myself included, tend to think we think we know what not know. I was truly astonished when I found out a lot of what I absolutely knew I knew was not even true. This fancy trick of knowing of what we really do not know is accomplished by putting various bits and pieces together into some kind of story. For instance (though this is something I personally never bought except for a brief few moment in time which resulted in the bizarre affect of what I have named autistic encapsulation amplification)---I am what I am, such as autistic, because I was born that way. If you stop and think about it, this leaves a lot of information out. I started to laugh when I wrote the last sentence because the whole concept is so ridiculous.

According to the way the brain naturally works, non-pertinent information is omitted by a device akin to punning: A generalized mental position is charted into shape by an internal diagram of material check points, moving from left to right, in order to translate from a simplified framework into direct action. This is effected by the omission of extraneous information. For instance, if you're applying for a job you do not need to know that because you were treated a certain way as a child the interviewer may represent to your unconscious mind one of your parents..If at the time of the interview you are thinking either he does or he doesn't represent your parent (because you know the former might be true and you are consciously trying to negate that concept, then it will mess the interview up....or, when you walk across the room to pour another wonderful cup of coffee in the morning, you do not need to remember that at the end of the day you drink tea, but you might remember when you make the coffee that you are almost out of coffee filters..(cofee is an interesting word, by the way, as is alcohol, but to understand the former you would need to kind of get the gist of the letters ff and ee:-):-):-)

So here's how this framing making goes. One whacko psychologist, and it appears he was in some ways really whacko, developed this (imo over generalized) concept of what the refrigerator mother (volatile catchphrase) being behind autism, and when he fell into disrepute because of various deceptions and misbehavior,, this catchphrase with its implied theory went out the door with him, and in came a brand new new theory that autism (all the way across a broad spectrum including children who cannot speak, some of whom are physically deformed all the way 'up' to these grown up little professors who are now creative owners of their own business or actually professors in universities or whatever) is something people are born with.Of course psychologists in general are not saying this. They are saying they don't really know and it is both genetic and environmental, so a developmental disorder, but many people who are autistic are leaving out the developmental part and also trying to influence broader society to see it this way.

This is just how most if not many people 'think. They/we leave out this or that information because it is convenient, and this 'thinking' fits in with current trends and tendencies in society as well as influences them, reinforcing ones own fake story, which is very real to oneself, whatever this story is. And then people will fight with and gang up against whoever disagrees with them-- no real evidence required. You kind of just have to feel it and so believe in it.

Found this just now in Wikopedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Bettelheim

Can ideas change the brain]? One one thing for sure certain ideas (and also lack of these ideas) affect the functioning of certain glands. If we think someone is out to get us or if we think someone really likes us, this will affect the functioning of the brain. I think it is something we already know.

And how about what we do not know (such as if I have a naive theory of mind)? There must be some perceived (or 'unperceived':-) functional value to this. Haven't quite figured it out yet.......

Why are words so important? I am thinking speech is very important, both external and internal. In that word "speak" we find the word "peak". A peak, for one thing, is the top of a mountain is the final level, but it can also represent the final of integration (proceeding) action.

If a child does not speak there could be many reasons...

It is also interesting that the word "here" is a homophone for the word "hear," and in "hear" we find the word "ear," and also in the words, bear, fear, near, and many other words. So this means something. No coincidence. (And the vowel combination "ea" you might want to look at, such as, off the top of my head, in "flea" and in "eat." Nuff said...have a nice day or night, depending upon where you are in the world. In this book I read on Islamic mysticism by Henry Corbett, what is called the black beyond black represents a certain state of mystical realization....

From what I have written so far you can see there is a way of looking at etymology.than is strikingly different from the way which is commonly presented. There are different ways of looking at many things, but we generally process data according to what we know, our own subjective context and perspective---we define 'reality' by the way we frame things, and the way we frame things defines 'us'..This is like being trapped within a circle. The evidence I have given easily presents a new perspective---that (at least some) ancient people had some kind of hand in consciously designing language, and that these people were aware of their own brain function and how it related to the external world. Moreover, it is possible to use root roots and the device of punning, which approximates right brain function, to convey certain subtle information, sort of like a language within a language. So there is a shape to looking at things, a way to approach by topology, and this again relates back to the subject of encapsulation in general, autistic encapsulation, and also what in psychology is known as object relations theory.

Don't have much time to write today, but please read my last two messages on the documentary\ thread as they begin touch on a very subtle but important point relevant to this topic of how playing the autism card may be harmful to humanity.

To the people from Autism Speaks, please do not get all bent out of shape from reading what I have written and will be writing about the ABC segment on autism. I do understand you are trying to help people from a very sincere and genuine altruistic motivation, and surely are helping people. Of course. However, sometimes it is necessary to look very carefully in order to see things from another angle, and I am just using this as a learning tool. It is all grist for the mill....

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5789569.html#5789569

To continue, I am going to gradually be presenting a theory of autism that actually makes sense, and I am learning as we go along.. Merely placing people who have similar psychological symptoms but to varying degree on a spectrum may serve some kind of diagnostic function to be sure, but it doesn't make pure and simple sense, and that is what we want to do (presumably). .It would be a higher goal.

I do not have as much time to write because of the holiday season, but to anyone who is finding this thread interesting, it is going to get even more interesting.. Some of the material we will be enquiring into is the subject of payment---what is the inner meaning of payment and why is payment sometimes a prerequisite in order to receive certain benefits (and no, I will not be asking for money:-).. We will also be looking at how brain function relates to the organization of groups, continue on the subject of language and the brain, and perhaps look at at some basic object relations theory and tie it in with the subject of encapsulation. Ultimately the aim is to understand how encapsulation works in general, which I think we are a;ready beginning to understand, then how it may relate to autism and finally how we can help both ourselves and others by the application of what we have learned.

Possibly a new model will come out of this understanding which will combine both psychological and behavioral approaches and can be applied to autistic people on many different levels of functioning..

To continue--why is this thread getting so many hits? Well, for one thing, everybody wants to blame someone else for harming humanity, so I guess people will jump on this:-) Aside from this and hopefully just a few thought police who are afraid I am going to prematurely take some people's shells away from them, which I would not do, even if I could, I think the main readers are those who are interested in language who must be discovering this thread little by little and finding what I have been writing about word roots and brain function quite fascinating, which it should be, as the implications of looking at human brain function through the device of word roots is profound, and also, I think another hook is that people do not know much of anything about autism, and they want to know more, so this is magnetic.

I am not buying the story that is commonly given, at least by many here, about autism being primarily a genetic phenomena-- I think some kinds of autism probably are and other kinds are not---and I am also questioning the functional value of the device of placing people on a spectrum. I can see it as a kind of lame diagnostic 'tool,' but it really does not make that much sense. Does it just not make sense to me? No. It probably does not make much sense to most people in the field of psychology, and this is evidenced by reading various material on the internet, almost all of which refers to autism as a developmental disorder, but bear in mind that most if not all human disorder is in some way developmental.

Fourthly or whatever, I am presenting from the angle of social science which is a different and much needed twist, and there is a recent hint that this material will be looped back to the formation of groups (community) and also linked to a new way of looking at things--- looking itself becomes a transformational action by which the conscious processing of data can transform the mind, so will make a new kind of sense that will lead to the escape from bondage by the ultimate parting of the waters of the Red (read) Sea (see). So (sew, sow, sou:-) have a fun day....love, littlebee

Hmm,,,what to write today?....have to be quick....

What is a group and how does it work? To any psychologists reading here, and at this point I suspect there are quite a few, this book I mentioned which I found in a free box many years ago and was going to throw out a couple of weeks ago when weeding but instead decided to read is Experiences In Groups by W.R. Bion, an English psychoanalyst who specialized in studying groups I A paperback copy is about thirty-five dollars and at this point in time I would call that material quaint, even archaic, so of limited value, but I may be using some of that material on the future in order to make certain points. It is in no way necessary to read this book in order to understand anything I will be writing here, but if you are have a bunch of money it might be an interesting addition to your library..

.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Bion

The main point (though he didn't exactly come right out and say it) is that the way the group organizes and processes data as a unit and also the way that individuals unconsciously try to shape the group reflects the organization of the human brain. He did seem to kind of see it, but his clarity was limited by trying to place too much psychoanalytical constructs upon his analysis..

So to continue. Is the readership of this thread a group? Since at this point no one seems to be speaking except myself (though anyone is welcome to) this would not seem to constitute a group, at least surely not according to the standards of Bion, but could it still be a group?

First of all, he was a psychiatrist, which I am not--ain't:-) and he was coming from a position of authority, which I am not, unless knowledge is considered as a form of authority, then maybe.Also he was working with people who were, as he put it, "neurotic," who were putting down good money for a solution to their problems. Well, you would assume that if you put down your money then you are going to work to get your money's worth, but that is not necessarily true. People could be putting down their money as part of a self-defeating dynamic, which actually most of his clients were, at least according to his description of the little if any transformation that transpired in his groups (but I have not quite finished reading the book yet.

Basically, his insight was that people in a group would organize in certain primitive ways that reflected their own natural intinct to form a group (because all people are always in some kind of a group, according to him,--even people who are isolated (the implication being that humans evolved as a part of a group and so their own brain structure reflects this). And he observed three basic primitive group formations---what he called fight or flight, pairing, and dependent (on a leader), all of which are based on an attempt to use the group to avoid facing reality. Then there was what he called the Work group, a more sophisticated form of group, whose intent was to correlate various subjective data more scientifically in an attempt to face reality. I will talk about this later.

One thing that makes his work archaic is that what he was explaining was couched in psychoanalytic terminology verging on the vague (I read somewhere he was a fan of Lacan), and this is kind of interesting, as what is the meaning and function of being vague, asdie from it being an in vogue (at that time) literary and philosophical style)? Imo, he was approaching from an existential perspective in the sense that people came to him for help in finding a definition, but he would not give them one, but not so much because he was a therapist helping them to discover their own individual definitions, but because he was studying how people respond to the lack of definition. That is disingenuous, and he tries to excuse it away later in the book by acknowledging his own motive and possible unawareness of it is playing into the group formation, but no cigar. Moreover, in terms of the third kind of primitive group formation which he calls the dependent group, he is not factoring himself into the equation, such as, for instance, if he were a better facilitator the group might not be so dependent upon him. I think if any reader looks carefully it is easy to see that his own study and the book he intends to write about it is going to color what he is doing. And maybe he was just not a good group leader for various psychological reasons of his own.

Now to segue into the subject of payment and how it applies to brain function. In order for something to have value it must have some kind of material value. Is a form, such as the concept of a group, material? For instance, if an autistic person or anyone forms some kind of protective shell, in order for it to perform its function as a shell, it must be a 'real' shell, in that it has some kind of parameters in relationship to the brain and body of the person who is being protected; however the intention of the shell is to protect from reality..In this sense 'real' is both real and not real. So how is reality ultimately defined? It is defined by the deed, which interestingly is the same word for action and also for the claiming of charted and owned territory.

So can thinking be a deed, or is only walking across a room or moving ones hand to touch ones face in the category of a deed? And is all thinking a deed or is there indeed a distinction to be made between one kind of thinking and another?

I'd better stop wearing my Kinks T-shirts. That could be harmful to society.