Since When Do Vaccines have MERCURY in Them?!
I'm sorry, wasn't it assumed that you were so inflamed and agitated with my postings that you no longer would frequent them? Don't you care about your health? So what's your agenda? Need an outlet? Sexually frustrated? LOL - omg.
Actually I'm due to give birth on Halloween, I'm just in a hormone driven bad mood.
My health is perfectly fine, I'm just telling you to grow up. Everyone reads the sludge you spew out, but you wont read our facts. It's like talking with a two year old. What's the matter? Do you need your bottle? Aww poor dear, I think you need to be changed. I bet my unborn baby is more mature than you.
3. he says the peer-reviewed literature is junk, scientists are part of a conspiracy and are evil, etc yet he cites sources claiming to be based on the peer-reviewed literature. so which one is it? If you believe in the peer-reviewed literature,a ccept its conclusions. if not, stop relying on sources that claim to be based on it (their claim, not mine).
1. ethyl mercury and elemental mercury are different substances, with different properties. he just goes on and on about elemental mercury. But he has no problem, apparently, with amalgam (mercury and silver) used as fillings for teeth. is 'different substances have different properties' so hard to understand?
Oh - I forgot to mention, I also don't *do* demeaning posts. Sorry.
You want an answer, be respectful, or I will drop you like a hot piece of sulphar.
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Natives who beat drums to drive off evil spirits are objects of scorn to smart Americans who blow horns to break up traffic jams. ~Mary Ellen Kelly
1. ethyl mercury and elemental mercury are different substances, with different properties. he just goes on and on about elemental mercury. But he has no problem, apparently, with amalgam (mercury and silver) used as fillings for teeth. is 'different substances have different properties' so hard to understand?
Oh - I forgot to mention, I also don't *do* demeaning posts. Sorry.
You want an answer, be respectful, or I will drop you like a hot piece of sulphar.
Yeah, you don't *do* demeaning posts.

I'm sorry, wasn't it assumed that you were so inflamed and agitated with my postings that you no longer would frequent them? Don't you care about your health? So what's your agenda? Need an outlet? Sexually frustrated? LOL - omg.
Actually I'm due to give birth on Halloween, I'm just in a hormone driven bad mood.
My health is perfectly fine, I'm just telling you to grow up. Everyone reads the sludge you spew out, but you wont read our facts. It's like talking with a two year old. What's the matter? Do you need your bottle? Aww poor dear, I think you need to be changed. I bet my unborn baby is more mature than you.
After your pathological tirades last night against the good doctor Ayoub whose sole agenda is to educate the masses, correct faults and rectify misdeed, you exhibited nothing but totally outrageous and sickening behavior in your posts here. Not to mention your entirely shameful communication with this one - do me a favor - you have zero place to tell ANYONE how to be. You're an embarrassment to yourself.
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Natives who beat drums to drive off evil spirits are objects of scorn to smart Americans who blow horns to break up traffic jams. ~Mary Ellen Kelly
5. there's the usual thing about it all being a conspiracy by Bill Gates and the pharmaceutical industry. How does this square with the use of vaccines in the EU (the EU recently fined microsoft) or in Cuba (last time i checked, US businesses didn't even do business in Cuba, much less run the place - Cuba pays no copyrights to US corporations, etc)?
I'm sorry, wasn't it assumed that you were so inflamed and agitated with my postings that you no longer would frequent them? Don't you care about your health? So what's your agenda? Need an outlet? Sexually frustrated? LOL - omg.
Actually I'm due to give birth on Halloween, I'm just in a hormone driven bad mood.
My health is perfectly fine, I'm just telling you to grow up. Everyone reads the sludge you spew out, but you wont read our facts. It's like talking with a two year old. What's the matter? Do you need your bottle? Aww poor dear, I think you need to be changed. I bet my unborn baby is more mature than you.
After your pathological tirades last night against the good doctor Ayoub whose sole agenda is to educate the masses, correct faults and rectify misdeed, you exhibited nothing but totally outrageous and sickening behavior in your posts here. Not to mention your entirely shameful communication with this one - do me a favor - you have zero place to tell ANYONE how to be. You're an embarrassment to yourself.
When did I insult any doctor? I disputed facts, but never once insulted anyone here, with the exception of you.
You are acting like a cult member. You're narrow-minded and refucing to listen to any point of view besides your own. If we don't bow down and say 'oh Yes jjstar, you're so right! I see the light the Truth, it's so clear!' then you think it's a personal attack. Newsflash, people can disagree and debate and it not be personal, you just crossed the line about five pages ago.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.| BIO
Time for CDC to Come Clean
Posted March 1, 2006 | 12:09 AM (EST)
Correspondence newly obtained under the Freedom of Information Act raises troubling new questions about CDC's role in the Thimerosal scandal. Thimerosal is the mercury-based vaccine preservative that has been linked to epidemics of neurological disorders, including autism, in American children born after 1989.
Responding to scientific studies linking dangerous levels of mercury to a range of health disorders, the CDC in July 1999 recommended that the nation's vaccine makers eliminate Thimerosal as a preservative, "as soon as possible."
But the newly released documents show that behind the scenes CDC was quietly discouraging Thimerosal's removal. In a July 1999 letter, vaccine producer SmithKline Beecham tells CDC that it is ready to produce non-Thimerosal DTP (Diptheria/Tetanus/Pertussis) vaccines immediately and has sufficient inventories to supply the entire U.S. market during the remainder of 1999 and the first half of 2000, by which time other vaccine manufacturers would have their Thimerosal-free DTP vaccines on line.
Thimerosal-laden DTP vaccines containing 25 micrograms of mercury apiece were then being administered to American infants at two months, four months and six months -- far exceeding EPA's recommended safe level for mercury. Had CDC accepted SmithKline's offer, it could have immediately reduced the mercury exposures to vaccinated six-month-old children by 40%.
However, in November, CDC mysteriously sent a letter back rejecting SmithKline's offer. Then, on July 14, 2000 CDC published a deceptive press release promising to require that all vaccines be Thimerosal-free as soon as "adequate supplies are available." This was a full 12 months after the agency had denied SmithKline's proposal.
"If CDC were basing its decision on safety alone, it would have taken SmithKline up on its offer. That's a no-brainer," said a federal health official who requested anonymity. "So there were other considerations beside safety that were guiding their decision making."
Among these "other considerations" were CDC's important concerns for the preservation of the vaccine program, a bureaucratic impulse for self-preservation, and protecting the economic interests of its vaccine industry friends.
"Immediate withdrawal would send a strong message; 'We messed up!'" the health official told me. "And I don't think they wanted to send that message to parents, the public or those considering legal action."
"There was also concern," says the federal official, "that an immediate withdrawal might discredit the international vaccine programs for which CDC is an important partner." The World Health Organization has urged CDC against the banning of Thimerosal in U.S. vaccines since that prohibition might discredit WHO's third world inoculation programs. WHO, with U.S. funding, is now injecting children in developing countries with the same amounts of Thimerosal we were giving American kids at their highest exposures, but in a shorter time period. In May 2001, WHO committed to "develop a strong advocacy campaign to support the ongoing use of Thimerosal."
But CDC insiders argue that CDC's primary concern was the economic impacts on its pharmaceutical industry partners. "The big consideration was cost," says the federal health official. "A lot of CDC's friends in the vaccine industry had stockpiled Thimerosal-based vaccines. If they couldn't sell them the costs would total in the tens of millions of dollars."
On July 14, 2000 CDC promised to complete the transition to Thimerosal-free vaccines for children by first quarter 2001. But, probably for the reasons stated above, its commitment sometimes seems half-hearted. CDC continues to promote the use of Thimerosal in vaccines. The agency continues to send its top spokesman Roger Bernier around the country to testify before state legislatures to derail state efforts to ban Thimerosal in vaccines. Last week Bernier was testifying against a proposed Thimerosal ban in Maryland.
CDC continues to exert muscular efforts to derail studies of American cohorts -- the Amish, Christian Scientists, and home-schooled children -- who were not exposed to Thimerosal vaccines. Preliminary studies of these groups indicate very low levels of the neurological disorders, including autism, that have been associated with Thimerosal in vaccinated populations.
It's time for the CDC to come clean with the American public. Its tactics of deception and obfuscation are jeopardizing the credibility of the entire vaccine program, and therefore posing an enormous danger to public health.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f- ... 16550.html
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Natives who beat drums to drive off evil spirits are objects of scorn to smart Americans who blow horns to break up traffic jams. ~Mary Ellen Kelly
National Vaccine Reform Group Questions Experts' Motives
By Todd Zwillich
WebMD Medical NewsMay 18, 2004 -- An expert panel says conclusively that the mercury-containing vaccine preservative thimerosal does not cause autism in children. But a national, parent-led vaccine reform group says the panel is practicing politics, not medicine.
The expert panel, convened by the Institute of Medicine, also concludes in a report that the common measles, mumps, and rubella combination vaccine, also called MMR, does not cause autism as some have suspected.
"The evidence favors a rejection of a causal relationship of thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism," says Marie McCormick, MD, professor of maternal and child health at the Harvard School of Public Health and the panel's chairwoman. McCormick says the 13-member committee was unanimous in its conclusions.
Thimerosal was used for decades to prevent bacterial contamination in many different vaccines. The chemical is a mercury-based preservative with the potential to cause neurological and developmental problems.
Under mounting pressure from the public and Congress, companies began removing thimerosal from vaccines in 1999. Now all universally recommended childhood vaccines are available with no thimerosal.
Tuesday's conclusions are the last of a years-long review of vaccine safety by the committee elected by the Institute of Medicine. They appear to put a period on a long-running debate raging among families, scientists, and in the courts over whether thimerosal or individual vaccines are responsible for the alarming rise in childhood autism cases since 1990.
A 2001 report from the same committee concluded that there was "inadequate" evidence to accept or reject a link between thimerosal and neurological disorders including autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
Experts said that several studies released since 2001 convinced them to reject the link. Five published studies "are consistent in providing no link," McCormick says.
At the same time, 14 studies have concluded that the MMR vaccine does not lead to autism in vaccinated children. Two studies found an association, though the committee said that researchers used poor methods in their study design and the study was of poor quality.
"The weight of that evidence is pretty substantial since all of the studies go in the same direction," McCormick says.
Activists 'Stunned'
The conclusions anger vaccine activists who have been fighting to expose what they see as evidence that multiple childhood vaccinations are dangerous for children.
Barbara Loe Fisher, president of the watchdog group the National Vaccine Information Center, says she is "stunned" by the committee recommendation that researchers discontinue active study of vaccines and autism and look instead at possible genetic factors in overall mercury metabolism.
"They're saying that the case is closed," Fisher tells WebMD. She suggests that the panel was acting to protect large government research grants at their home universities.
"This is extremely political, not scientific," she says.
Vaccines Still Recommended
Despite the findings, experts recommend that children under 6 receive thimerosal-free vaccines. "This is a precautionary measure to reduce the exposure to mercury from all sources. In terms of autism, vaccines do not represent the risk," McCormick says.
Experts note that not vaccinating children against diseases can be dangerous.
"The risks of the diseases that are being prevented with these vaccines are very, very real," says Steven Goodman, MD, associate professor of oncology and epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and a member of the panel.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news ... utism-link
If you can read what you posted, you can read this.
I know, I know!! You have to experience death as child before you can say anything about infant mortality.

These disease are NOT cured by modern medicine, their symptoms have merely been eradicated. Do you understand the difference between removing a symptom and healing the whole organism, because I don't think you or the other naysayers do. Repeating mantras that *there's no link* without providing solid evidence - ANY evidence that hasn't been tainted by the CDC or FDA - would suffice, otherwise you just look and sound like a repetitive fool. Head's up.
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Natives who beat drums to drive off evil spirits are objects of scorn to smart Americans who blow horns to break up traffic jams. ~Mary Ellen Kelly
You seem very intent on steering the subject away from its objective - which is to bring awareness to the toxicity of mercury in vaccines, but you know what? The truth will surface in spite of your feeble attempts trying to prevent that from happening. And in the end result you and your cronies will be held accountable for every iota of mis-information and harm - direct or indirect - as any criminal who prevents the truth from beaing learned will be. You were being disrespected? I have zero respect for liars.
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Natives who beat drums to drive off evil spirits are objects of scorn to smart Americans who blow horns to break up traffic jams. ~Mary Ellen Kelly