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16 Nov 2007, 9:51 pm

I kinda missed the bus that gives out free and helpful power when you ride it.

All the autistic power I hold is...complete social retardation, some cognitive impairments and the ability to remember every fight the Hulk has participated in.



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17 Nov 2007, 6:58 pm

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I have Aspergers, schizophrenia, Agoraphobia, and a severe Anxiety disorder BUT I concider myself no different from my fellow man.

Methinks you may be exaggerating your list of diagnoses here. Part of the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's is that you can NOT meet the diagnostic criteria for Schizophrenia. So, being simultaneously diagnosed with Asperger's and Schizophrenia is impossible.
To respnd to the rest of your post, I will agree with your opposition to the militant/separationist/assumption of superiority mentality that some people have. We need to be able to live in normal society. However, we don't necessarily need to pretend to be NT. We need to learn to use whatever talents and abilities we have to our advantage. This goes for everyone, NT and Aspie. Everyone has different skills and needs to learn how best to use their own set of skills.


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17 Nov 2007, 7:16 pm

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Wow. So now you are telling that the fact I have no friends, no job ( and on disability) and no hobbies ( by my definition) can not be simply be attributed to AS?

Yes. There are plenty of people with no friends, no job, and no hobbies that do not have AS. There are plenty of people with AS who have friends, jobs, and hobbies. Clearly, there is something separating the people with friends/jobs/hobbies from those without them other than whether they have AS or not.
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How do you know where am on the autistic spectrum?

In your profile you indicated that you are diagnosed with Asperger's. You also stated this explicitly in several of your previous posts. My information on this subject comes direcctly from you, not my own assumptions. Why are you trying to attack me over your placement on the autistic spectrum? I view the whole "spectrum" as essentially the same thing, so to me it doesn't matter if you have Kanner autism, AS, HFA, or PDD-NOS. Just labels arbitrarily defined by the medical community, and having any one of them does not affect your chances for success in life.
I will say again... GROW UP and stop using Asperger's as an excuse for you failings. Such an attitude conditions you to believe that there is no way for you to change your situation and begin to succeed. Don't allow yourself to sink into misery and self-pity. Find your interests and talents, make use of them, and do something with your life.


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18 Nov 2007, 12:18 pm

Whoever thinks they can just stop being aspie is kidding themselves. We can pretend all we want, but in the end we need to realise that it's impossible to just be someone we aren't. I think improovments, though, are great and should be done because we learn alot from improoving ourselves. Plus, nasty people can be alot worse to try to deal with than Autism. I could list the reasons why.

Say you mess up something once or twice, or whatever. Who doesn't loose that many jobs again? Who doesn't have relationship problems? NTs can loose their jobs and have relationship issues with the help of their past that could have been better. Sometimes it isn't the employees fault for loosing their job, because there are bosses that are stupid bosses, or the company has alot of problems, or God knows why.

My mother lost two jobs because of bosses that didn't know what they were doing. Their entire business died. The last one wasn't even pretty at all. In fact, he got sued by a bunch of people. (They really had good reason for it to. Not saying he was bad. He should have been more careful.) And guess what, and he was a normal guy who was outgoing.

Having just a faster mouth isn't everything. I for one am not going to blame my blank epesodes of silence, foot wagging, or mistakes in tone for some of the mean things I have gotten or the lack of understanding.



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18 Nov 2007, 1:29 pm

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Can anyone honestly say they would rather have AS than be an NT?


Well, speaking as a fellow Aspie - yes, yes I would. And I'm sure there are many other Aspies who prefer being aspie because they are what they are. There are some great Neurotypes out there as well as Aspies.

To quote Red Dwarf last night "I am what I am" :lol:
I don't care how corny this sounds - people are special by the way they're made up and it's what makes each and every individual unique. I just wish there weren't some people out there who abuses their position, or become p***** in society...
But that aside - there's some brilliant Neurotypes and Aspies and every perspective mental difference - there's some great people out there in their own unique ways.


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18 Nov 2007, 2:48 pm

Orwell wrote:
-Vorzac- wrote:
I have Aspergers, schizophrenia, Agoraphobia, and a severe Anxiety disorder BUT I concider myself no different from my fellow man.

Methinks you may be exaggerating your list of diagnoses here. Part of the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's is that you can NOT meet the diagnostic criteria for Schizophrenia. So, being simultaneously diagnosed with Asperger's and Schizophrenia is impossible.
To respnd to the rest of your post, I will agree with your opposition to the militant/separationist/assumption of superiority mentality that some people have. We need to be able to live in normal society. However, we don't necessarily need to pretend to be NT. We need to learn to use whatever talents and abilities we have to our advantage. This goes for everyone, NT and Aspie. Everyone has different skills and needs to learn how best to use their own set of skills.


I was diagnosed with AS at 14 and schizophrenia at 19



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18 Nov 2007, 6:34 pm

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Your being delusional. You need to change. I posted this in another thread. I will copy and paste it.

DO NOT ACCEPT WHO YOU ARE. It is natural instinct to do this. Look at reality. You are NOT functional in this society. When I was in my teens I knew I was different but didn't know why. I went through the next 10 years of my life accepting who I was but was an outcast. I was miserable the whole 10 years with no friends, no steady employment. I was diagnosed with AS. I was determined that I needed to change. I changed dramatically, but unfortunately I had other circumstances that hindered me. If I did not have these other roadblocks, I am convinced I would have been a happy and functional member of society. Understand that you need to change. Observe how other people act socially and at work. At first, it will not feel natural to act like others, but eventually you can become like them

NTs don't relate to us because we are oddballs. Can anyone honestly say they would rather have AS than be an NT? Come on people. It takes a lot of effort to remove yourself from the AS world, but it can be done.


i think your the only one on this site that realizes that, we are unfuntional losers, I don't think there is anything to we can do to change it either, the only way we can succeed is if we find a girl we like that understands us, otherwise we are f****d



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18 Nov 2007, 6:50 pm

flikr wrote:
KevinLA wrote:
Your being delusional. You need to change. I posted this in another thread. I will copy and paste it.

DO NOT ACCEPT WHO YOU ARE. It is natural instinct to do this. Look at reality. You are NOT functional in this society. When I was in my teens I knew I was different but didn't know why. I went through the next 10 years of my life accepting who I was but was an outcast. I was miserable the whole 10 years with no friends, no steady employment. I was diagnosed with AS. I was determined that I needed to change. I changed dramatically, but unfortunately I had other circumstances that hindered me. If I did not have these other roadblocks, I am convinced I would have been a happy and functional member of society. Understand that you need to change. Observe how other people act socially and at work. At first, it will not feel natural to act like others, but eventually you can become like them

NTs don't relate to us because we are oddballs. Can anyone honestly say they would rather have AS than be an NT? Come on people. It takes a lot of effort to remove yourself from the AS world, but it can be done.


i think your the only one on this site that realizes that, we are unfuntional losers, I don't think there is anything to we can do to change it either, the only way we can succeed is if we find a girl we like that understands us, otherwise we are f****


SO, you are saying you're kevin! And if we are f**** either way, what is the difference! :roll: 8O :lol: :wink:



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18 Nov 2007, 7:12 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
flikr wrote:
KevinLA wrote:
Your being delusional. You need to change. I posted this in another thread. I will copy and paste it.

DO NOT ACCEPT WHO YOU ARE. It is natural instinct to do this. Look at reality. You are NOT functional in this society. When I was in my teens I knew I was different but didn't know why. I went through the next 10 years of my life accepting who I was but was an outcast. I was miserable the whole 10 years with no friends, no steady employment. I was diagnosed with AS. I was determined that I needed to change. I changed dramatically, but unfortunately I had other circumstances that hindered me. If I did not have these other roadblocks, I am convinced I would have been a happy and functional member of society. Understand that you need to change. Observe how other people act socially and at work. At first, it will not feel natural to act like others, but eventually you can become like them

NTs don't relate to us because we are oddballs. Can anyone honestly say they would rather have AS than be an NT? Come on people. It takes a lot of effort to remove yourself from the AS world, but it can be done.


i think your the only one on this site that realizes that, we are unfuntional losers, I don't think there is anything to we can do to change it either, the only way we can succeed is if we find a girl we like that understands us, otherwise we are f****


SO, you are saying you're kevin! And if we are f**** either way, what is the difference! :roll: 8O :lol: :wink:


i'm saying i'm kevin? i don't get it