Accepting Autism is Like a Traffic Jam

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I am not arguing for the mercury myth, but I see this garbage touted a lot!

Chelation is simply taking some large, or easily excreted substance that has an affinity for something, and using it to sop that substance up to clean it up. It is almost like you spilled paint thinner(think of it as mercury), on the floor and there is dried paint on the floor(think of that as the mythical neurons), and you place paper towling(the chelation substance) down to pick up the thinner. EVENTUALLY, you will get all the paint thinner up(chelation). The DAMAGE(paint surfaces destroyed by the thinner, and nearby products hurt by the paint) is DONE!! !! ! The chelation does NOT fix that! ALL the chelation did was fix further damage. They have chelation for LEAD POISONING too, but it won't fix the damage.

Of course mercury is toxic. Nobody denies that.

But the toxicity is neutralized when combined with silver (for amalgam), or other substances. Thimerosal used in vaccines is only toxic when inhaled, ingested or by contact.

Yeah.

Chelation, when used for actual metal toxicity, is perfectly fine. It is approved for that.

But chelation when used for autism treatment, is extremely dangerous.

We have magnesium and potasium in our bodies too but we dont go bursting into flames.

Or, um...Hydrocloric Acid...im sure there are many.

Wow, I just researched chelation therapy and it seems like it's dangerous even for actual heavy metal poisoning and is only used as a last resort, although I may have read the articles incorrectly.

I'm having trouble understanding why ASDs would suddenly become such a problem unless something had actually made them worse ??! Which is why i continue to think that environmental factors have significantly contributed to the recent wave of autism.
Unless it really is that modern society is intolerable to many of us ?

Or is it that the rest of society has become intolerant of us?

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It is. But it's sadly the only way of getting the levels back to normal.

What's even more amazing is that 22% of aspies DO want to be absorbed into a society that is based on lying, cheating, and stealing your way to the top. If anything, it's NT society that is defective, not us.

The neurotypical society is not perfect. But they are more normal and functional than us. Not to mention, more happy. Arguing that point is delusional.

I understand that point of view. I used to think that way myself. It took me years to overcome the AS way of thinking.

I've done some more research and it appears that Chelation itself is a naturally ocurring phenomenon in nature. In fact, chelating agents are in shampoos and foods among other things.

chelation therapy on the other hand *is* dangerous.

Alex: True. But let me ask you this, then. If there is a level of mercury in everyone's blood, won't adding more disrupt the balance? After all, buildups of perfectly natural things inside someone can be dangerous.

And there are reasons why alchohol is considered toxic, including liver problems, and other things. Pizza has cheese, which builds up cholesterol. Everyone's got cholesteral, right? It's when there's more than there should be that we get problems.

Beau: Inhaled, ingested, or by contact? It's being injected straight into our bloodstream. Now, I was never the smartest kind in science, and I couldn't even dissect a worm! But I still know a bit.

Ingestion of something involves the nutrients, etc. being absorbed by the stomach wall and entering the bloodstream. It goes through the bloodstream, and is used by the body. Now, inhaling it puts it into your bloodstream through the lungs, like oxygen. And when it comes to contact, it's not being absorbed by your skin, but going into your veins.

Seriously, either it's toxic or it's not. It's harmful in your body, and that's just when it enters by the way you breathe, or by digestion, or through the skin, and it's less harmful to have it introduced directly into your bloodstream?
I just can't see how that's healthy. Don't get me wrong, I strongly support vaccines. They keep us from getting things as easily, and help prevent epidemics. In Canada, they've taken out Thimerosal years and years ago, back in 1999 was the last of it, I think. I'm glad for that.

As well, the only fatality of Chelation therapy for Autism was an incident involving mistakes on the part of the practitioner. It was the doctor's mistake.

Mindtear: Well, yeah. Of course. But in small amounts. It's part of a balanced system. And if we were to inject more of it, would that likely cause some serious problems?

ToadOfSteel: Well, it comes down to what each party thinks of the poll. 78% may not want to change ito someone else, or 22% thinks that it'd be easier to be normal.

Alex: It's something our bodies do naturally, purging our systems of toxins and such. At least, I think.

Yes, it was performed by a DAN doctor who has a history of medical malpractice, yet still denies any wrongdoing.

Chelation therapy has killed others, though.

Including the one already mentioned, three people have been killed by it since 2005. No doubt it has killed others before that.

Kind of lost me.

Introducing anything in large quantities into the body is eventually fatal, even water kills in large enough quantities.

well I'm surprised there were any fatalities. If you're removing metals from the body, the thing I'd be worried about would be the good metals getting removed and causing some form of long term problems.

Beau, tell me; Were those treatments done for Autism, or were they simply chelation therapies in general as a whole? Were those three Autistic, being treated with Chelation?
Every medical treatment has the potential to kill someone. Medical mistakes, etc.

Mindtear: I guess what I'm trying to put across is that there is mercury in our blood. Not a lot, but it's there. And adding more may not be wise, like adding Mercury, or any other substances like the ones you mentioned.

Alex: I believe that pharmacies offer over-the-counter supplements for things like Iron, Potassium, and more.

That is garbage that the ADA has created for release to dental PATIENTS! I make that very specific claim because they tell DENTISTS the OPPOSITE! The stuff is handled in a manner even more secure than biohazard waste!

The fact is that Mercury is an element and is UNSTABLE! They tried to make people think formaldehyde was stable when mixed with urea. As a kid, I HATED the stench, and almost SCREAMED that it was dangerous, and that the compound was UNSTABLE! NOBODY seemed to believe me, or be able to smell it. Over a decade later, everyone found out I was right, and even put warning stickers on mobile homes made of the stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea-formaldehyde

Well, AMALGAM is the SAME way, they have proven it, and the ADA even ADMITS it to their collegues!

http://jada.ada.org/cgi/content/abstract/130/2/191

BOTH of these two have been around over 30 years with no obvious harmful effects BUT.....The BOTH ended up being singled out in a possible and downright likely causation of relatively major problems. Frankly, neither was ever needed.