Which have it harder? Male Aspies or female Aspies?

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men and women have unique challenges and it's not accurate to compare men to women. i am not sure why people think that women are more likely to get married or have someone to take care of them - disabled men (including both intellectual and physical disabilities) are more likely to get married and more likely to find employment than disabled females. no studies have tracked aspies only though, so it could be different for aspies... but we don't really know.

Where did you get this from? TBH I seriously think you've got it backwards. (straight)Women are a hell of a lot pickier about who they choose to sleep with(& marry)then men are. That is why so few disabled straight men get married, let alone find someone to have sex with them. A disability, particularly an obvious one, is regarded as a sign of bad genes as far as women are concerned. Most men size women up purely based on the appearance of their body and their face. A man doesn't stand to lose the way a woman does if he knocks up a woman with bad genes the way a woman does if she sleeps with a man with such.

http://dawn.th*t.net/disability.html

if you research the phenomenon, you'll see it is the case that disabled men are more likely to get married (and hold a job). this is just one resource - many statistics are available if you look. you have it backwards.

Women. Females in genera tend to suffer more/have more serious problems with any ASD. That is a known fact. No one knows why, it may indeed be that autism accentuates basic male traits/eccentricities & women have a harder time dealing with it.

Sincerely,
Matthew

She beat me to citations for this, but I've heard the same numbers - 60% of disabled males get married to 49% of disabled females.

Part of it is the view that disabled females can't make good mothers.

As a wise man once said. "The world may never know."

On what, exactly, is this statement based? Because, I assure you, men do have to deal with sexism. In fact, one of the most insidious aspects of it is the pervasive belief that it happens only to women.

I don't think there's any real way to determine who has it worse, and I don't see why there needs to be a contest to begin with. But denying the fact that one group or the other has to face specific gender-based challenges only hampers our ability to better understand each other and move past those challenges.

Female Aspies are more mature, Aspie boys are 5 years behind other boys and 8 years behind girls the same age in maturity growing up. They are more socially isolated and also grow up in a culture where not being interested in sports is a mental diagnosis in itself.
Aspie girls, on the other hand, are more mature, they can detest sports and more easily fit into a sub-culture or get friends among other girls who are interested in the same music or pets as herself. Girls are also able to take school more seriously because they are more mature.

Exactly.

And what about that aspie girl who detests the music that others like? (Answer: even larger amounts of bullying because its something else different about her)

(And truthfully, listening to the "right" music isn't enough if you're not following the "right" fashion, at least at the ages you seem to be discussing. It ends up getting better when you're older, but middle school is a string of bullying events because of happening to have different preferences.)

Just because you happen to like music and not like sports doesn't mean that females have it easier.

Where is the source for this, I don't think this necessarily applies to all people with aspergers. Also, as far as I can tell it's extremely difficult for me to fit in anywhere, and when I was a kid I did not listen to the music the other girls did because it annoyed me......also taking school seriously is one of those things i look back and regret because i didn't learn crap there. So interesting theory but I am not sure how prove-able it is.

It would depend on an individuals unique strengths and weaknesses.

BUT, a condition THAT constantly calls into question your ability to empathize could not be a big plus for women. Our culture associates empathy with caring and nurturing ....traits that are considered hallmarks of femininity as well as motherhood.

A condition defined by ones inability to make eye contact......to express ones emotion through a casual glance, romantic gaze, or warm dazzling stare does not favor society's expectation of women.

Face it(no pun intended), expressive eye contact is tied to an emotional state which is expected much more of women than men.

It's how you look at IT.

TheSunAlsoRises

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I know puh-len-ty of boyish women who do not conform to gender roles or fit the female stereotypes. Many of these women are NT but I also know of 2 aspie gals as well who are like this. None of them receive much flak for being masculine. In fact, there are a lot of people who have more respect for tomboys and in certain circles such women are taken more seriously than "girly girls". American women have less social restrictions about gender roles than american men do. Men who defy gender roles are assumed to be gay.

Oh! This is like "beating a dead horse" yeah? I'm so proud I figured that picture out in the end hehe. I guess trying to figure the answer to the ever reoccurring question about who has it harder is a bit like that.

This, very much so. Finally, I decided any other opinion is based on misunderstanding, per se. NO argument.


I'm not sure disabilities in general and ASDs have the same effect.

I think it's difficult to say, because we women don't know what it feels like to be a man, and the same applies to men. Therefore it'll always be an incognite.