Stop blaming everything on Mr Aspergers.

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Clearly the words of one apply to all. Just because someone is having a crisis and working it out in words online in a peer supported environment translates into real life each and every time. Everything people put in print is obviously reality.

You really need to learn what the words 'support forum' mean.

When you come up with real life examples of people you have met that live their lives this way - it will be a legitimate conversation. There are people who use excuses. And not just AS obviously. So, instead of trying to scare peopel away from a place intended for them to vent their negative feelings and finding some understanding, maybe you could actually do something useful - helpful even.

Oh yeah... thats not your gimmick. Sorry, what was I thinking...

http://www.mako.org.au/temp_dante_arthurs_1.html

Aspergers syndrome connection with Criminality. Dante Arthurs the Pedophile/child killer strangled and raped a little girl in shopping centre toilet cubicle in Perth, Australia back in 2006.

The evil side of Aspergers Syndrome exposed. A sick twisted criminal lives in the same country as me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Arthurs

Criminals: pedophiles, murderers, computer hackers, rapists have tried to use Aspergers Syndrome to excuse themselves of taking responsibility for their crimes.

Some magistrates and judges/jury have fallen for the criminal using their condition associated with poor social skills as a Get out of jail free card.

Aspergers Syndrome should not be used as an excuse for criminality. Aspergers Syndrome is just a label to describe a person with poor communication skills and limited social skills.

Well, if you put it that way, AS doesn't qualify as a reason for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people without AS who commit crimes. Criminality and AS aren't any more connected than criminality and NT.

Mad evil dictators, serial killers, mass murderers and lots of criminals have been freaks with Aspergers but it is no excuse for their violent criminal behaviour.

Hitler and Stalin were freaks with Aspergers.
Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Jack the ripper and various other serial killers were freaks with Aspergers.
Columbine suicide mass killers, Timothy McVeigh and the 9/11 hijacker suicide bombers were freaks with Aspergers.

Hi Dark Lord 2008,

Have you met Iago?

Because of Shakespeare, he's often regarded as one of the first sociopaths represented in literature. Because of Iago's knowledge and exploitation of Othello's epilepsy, Iago is also one of the first neuropsychiatrists in literature.

Sociopaths have extremely great interpersonal meet-and-deal skills, and they know more about most other people using very subtle social clues than the other people know about themselves. Using the term "sociopath", or assuming the improper word "sociopathology " (sociopathy), as confounded with the phrase "social pathology", is incorrect. Asperger's "syndrome was originally named 'autustic psychopathy',but was later changed to Asperger's disorder or syndrome to avoid misinterpretation with sociopathy[147]." From "Handbook of Medical Psychiatry" by Jair C. Soares & Samuel Gershon (2003), page 303, (147: Lorna Wing. The relationship between Asperger's syndrome and Kanner's autism. In: U Firth, ed. Autism and Asperger's Syndrome (ed. Uta Frith). Cambridge: Cambidge University Press, 1991, pp. 93-121.).

Who takes the "blame" for "Asperger Syndrome: a gift or a curse?" by Viktoria Lyons & Dr. Michael Fitzgerald (2005), at the current price of $155.00, new???

Do you think Caligula was more likely with Asperger's Syndrome or Temporal Lobe Epilepsy? Historical prejudice is about like current prejudice. Is there a difference between Dostoevsky's works "The Idiot" and "The Devils"???

Again, Roger Shattuck's "Candor and Perversion" comes to the rescue of forum postings containing not Papal Bulls, but Irish Bulls, like "Don't go near the water till you've learned to swim." Or my Rehab Counselor's Wisdom of "That couldn't have happened. I never heard of that happening to anyone. Besides, everyone knows it happens to everyone, so what are you complaining about?"

Dr. Dobson interviewed Ted Bundy. Blame it on Meese's Porn Report instead, or at least obscene Lady Justice's Scale distraction, requiring an $8,000 set of velveteen curtains for future self-righteous depravities.

Tadzio

In my experience people say the AS is being used as an excuse as a way to completely dismiss anything you say. What's the point in even having the diagnosis if people just dismiss the effects of it?

Erase it from the DSM IV if it's all willful bad behaviour!

Having AS either does impact on behaviour or it doesn't. I think it's because it's often a behavioural issue that people have great difficulty appreciating that some things are beyond our control. They think we just aren't trying hard enough.

I find this an absolute joke when I see the nasty, sly behaviour most NTs get away with on a daily basis just because it's socially acceptable and usually aimed at those considered to have low social worth.

"Be like us or shut up" is the basic message.

I've given up trying to explain anything concerning AS to NTs - I just avoid them full stop.
I haven't got the slightest inclination to gain more 'understanding' from them - they aren't worth it.

The deniers/critics of Aspergers and ADHD regard both conditions as politically correct excuses for bad behaviour. Giving some pills and a diagnosis is a cop out for lazy parents who can not control or discipline their naughty children.

According to the sceptics/deniers/critics there is no such thing as Aspergers or ADHD. Even psychiatrists and psychologists are amongst the sceptics and non-believers of Aspergers and ADHD.

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I hate society. I despise society. Society is bigotted, intolerant, and narrow-minded. In my four decades, not one bit has changed. I despised "political correctness" more than anything. I think it is fascism of the worst order.