How come people with Aspergers can't work ?

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I have checked out some of those websites, the all seem either very confusing or scammy...and sitting on a computer all day doing mudane tasks hoping it will someday get me enough money to actually live on sounds like a stupid idea to me.

And I can't just be entrepenurial, it's not the way I am.......I don't really have the skills to up and start my own business, I wouldn't even be able to manage the financial aspects and I have no resources or knowledge to get started. Not to mention my PTSD has gotten so bad I can hardly even concentrate or focus on things because I am too distracted by my symptoms. I am very happy for people who have success stories and all but thus far I am not one of them.....and I don't feel that should make me a lesser person.

If I accept government checks it will be because I need to survive and that is the only income I can get due to being unable to function in a work place or create my own bushiness......not because I wanna give up on anything, or stare at walls all day. If anything I'd see it as a temporary thing until I could find another way to have income to live on or no income but still the means to live.

And yeah maybe there should be opportunities all over the place but I sure as hell am not seeing any...as for underground economy I am not sure what you mean but if it's what I'm thinking then yeah I've considered that to. Also this topic is about why people with AS cannot work....so I explained why I can't work if you see that as pointless whining about life then go find another thread with a topic that is more appealing to you don't call me out for 'whining' when I respond to the topic at hand. Also last time I tired to go out there, give it all I had and worked to achieve my goals it only blew up in my face so understandably I am a little bit burnt out........and haven't developed a new goal yet other then looking into mental health issues so I can get medications to help me function better as in decrease the anxiety so I can maybe have a job or so I can get on SSI and have something to live on till I can figure something else out. Either that or I'm packing a back pack and leaving because any other ideas I can think of are not things I need to involve my family in.

I am only suggesting these things because I have a sincere desire to help you and others make the most of your abilities and talents. Sure, there are many scams out there, but there is also a lot of useful information that may ultimately be of much value as long as you make the effort.
Once you figure out what you want to do in life, and make progress toward that goal, your mental health issues should lessen considerably. My sense is that people are giving you some wrong advice, and trying to keep you focused too much on the present and the past, rather than seeking to empower you in the future. The mental health profession and the government will keep you dependent and enrich themselves, rather than making you the best that you can be.
What's so wrong about sitting at a computer all day, if it can help you to eventually reach your goals in life? You may not have skills, knowledge, and experience right now, although you can develop those over the years with sufficient motivation. Do you think all the many people who came to America with nothing got off the boat (or nowadays the plane), and just expected the system to take of them? Definitely NOT. They did whatever it took to improve themselves.
Have you heard about answering surveys to make money? I talked to someone once, and he said that he makes over two thousand a year tax free by doing online surveys for several companies. I earn a few hundred tax free by doing the same. It takes just a few mintues a day to click through emails. As a newcomer, it's easy, since if one has a debit or credit card, they can sign up for free trial offers (seven days to a month in duration), cancel them before one is charged, and be credited for ten or so dollars per offer. I made over two hundred dollars in just one day doing this.
There are plenty of other ways to make money without a regular job, or having to deal with normal people all day. The question, of course, is whether one has the sheer motivation to improve themselves, would prefer to work rather than whine, and not just settle for whatever scraps the system offers.

I already have multiple take surveys to make cash accounts and they pay crap, I mean its nice and all but you have to qualify for the surveys or you don't really get any benefit....and I don't tend to qualify for enough of them to make anything really. It would be impossible to live on that....and it actually takes quite a few hours to check them all and get through enough qualifying questions or whatever to get surveys.

I am certainly not comfortable giving out my credit card or debit card information, that causes way to much anxiety and stress and I already can hardly sleep at night so I usually pass on those sorts of offers, not to mention I am flat broke so it would not be wise of me to risk spending money I don't have. And quite honestly I don't have the sheer motivation for anything...and I hope when you're having a hard time in life everyone just tells you to quit whining and smile about your crappy situation because then maybe you'd know how frustrating that is when its a struggle to even motivate yourself to keep surviving or attempting to. And if you would read my whole response I said I would prefer government help as a temporary thing untill I can figure something else out....that would probably a bit more than the scraps I can get off survey sites.

I read over this a few times until I could finally put why I think this isn't true into words:

The way you talk about disability and benefits does not communicate "concern." Actually, your characterization of people who seek disability benefits is generally negative and borderline insulting (borderline in that much of what you post is allowed to stand). You do not sound like you're concerned about anything but the idea of your tax money going to support disabled people who are on benefits.

Further, that you try to convince people who have fairly strong reasons as to why they do not work into seeking work anyway, and offering extensive criticism and unsolicited advice despite your axiomatic ignorance about their situation belies concern about their welfare or well-being. In fact, that seems to be the least of your stated concerns.

I can't. I tried 6 or 7 years ago and I ended up quiting 3 weeks later. It was too much interaction for me and it made me so uncomfortable! It became too much and i had to quit.

I am on SSI anyway.

I was a little insulted by this but the more I think about it the funnier it becomes. So what you're saying is that young men with AS, with little or no work experience due to AS, should not receive government assistance because- Packing up and moving to North Dakota, leaving everything familiar, with the expectation of plentiful '$100,000/yr with no experience necessary' jobs (in N. Dakota of all places), is an option for every person with AS.

You just summed up everything I was trying to tell you guys about him for the last 2 months. I mean when someone calls you a parasite and leach on the system their agenda isn't too hard to figure out.

I don't understand how you did this. I signed up to take some surveys, and I took alot of them, but those companies all had a minimum amount you had to reach before getting paid, and two hunder dollars in one days sounds like you somehow scammed..someone? Could you elaborate please?

I wouldn't have written that if you hadn't told me that one time. I only saw your explanations the one time. I suspect I don't see most of his posts.

Personally, I look forward to living the high life on the public's tax money. Actually, I already do. I totally am better off getting that $197/month stipend for being disabled than I would be if I were able to work for even minimum wage and make that much every week, right? What kind of rational person would choose to live on disability if they didn't have to? I really would like to know.

I suspect that there are good jobs in North Dakota in the sense that the streets of London are paved with gold.

People with jobs tend to get ripped off. The employer pays them less than the full value of their labour and pockets the difference. They change working contracts after the fact, always pushing for worse conditions. Employees notice this and feel rightly angry, but instead of organising and directing their anger at the source of their misery - greedy bosses - many of them hit out at the unemployed, who they see as being somehow responsible for the exploitation rate inherent in capitalist production and for the misery of a market that's free to go into recession whenever it wants to.

But to critique those on benefits is to fall for the right-wing divide-and-rule trick (Tebbit's "on yer bike" version in this case). If those attacks are successful, benefits will become harder to get, and working contitions and pay will also degenerate, because the ultimate driver of exploitation is the worker's fear of unemployment and not knowing where the next meal will come from. The great thing about bottom-line shelter and food security (such as almost existed in the UK a few decades ago) is that your boss doesn't have you over a barrel. Sure, it costs, but don't imagine that abolishing benefits will put more money in the pockets of the employed. If you envy the "freedom" of the unwaged so much, you can join them any time you like. Save the criticism for the ones in the top jobs, whose bloated remuneration you will never enjoy. I see Bob Diamond is only getting a couple of million this year, a huge climbdown from the double figures they were going to give him before public opinion kicked in. Even his reduced pay is well over 300 times what a benefit claimant can get, and there's no chance of a government official taking it off him. So fignt people like him, not your own class.

Cavendish--

Yes, people should find jobs that they CAN do, not those they can't.

"Trying and failing" may mean you're in the wrong job or education field-- not that you can't do any job ever anytime in life at any employer. If someone with, say, AS decides to be a public speaker and burns out, that doesn't mean they can't do ANY job EVER in their lives.. it means they chose the wrong type of job. Try again, for that is life.

There are jobs where you interact very little with people.

Some library jobs, painting rooms/houses, stocking retail *in the stockroom* (in the back, early hours before customers arrive), some science/lab work, research, and more. The interaction is at least minimal in some jobs that exist in the world.

Momentum and willpower, ftw.

A counsellor told me that when my employer knew of my disability, he'd put me in quiet a little room out of the way. I was a little disturbed by this because like a lot of Aspies, although I get social anxiety and social fatigue, I'd hate to be kept away from people in that way. WIthout some minimal contact with people, my social skills can atrophy quite badly. Luckily nothing of the kind happened, and I'm still being randomly interrupted and annoyed by people, which isn't perfect, but at least I don't have to worry about people slowing me down any more.....any complaints about the speed of my work, and I can just explain that it's going to be like that until they address the background noise and interruption problems. So if people slow me down, it's just frustrating rather than scary like it used to be before my DX. Meanwhile I get the chance to work on my social skills.

So it might suit some Aspies to take a solitary job, but make sure you aren't committing yourself to a lonely, asocial life. Naturally if you can get whatever social gratification and challenge you need from your private life, there's nothing much to worry about........I could probably do a part-time job like that without much trouble, but not 30 or 40 hours a week, unless I had permission to come and go pretty freely..

This isn't stated in good faith. You're continuing to make assumptions about others that you have no evidence for.

I know this might seem a radical solution, but let people determine their own priorities and don't try to force your ignorant, rubbish, browbeating advice on them.

I can't say I know anyone who has chosen to live on disability benefits. Many worked until it became too much (even when their boss took all steps to make working as easy as possible for them) and then had no choice but to give up work.

I would love to work. But unless I can find a job in which it can be guaranteed that it'll be quiet enough and the lights would be dim enough, I can't. It's not so much the employers refusing to take me on, my disabilities make it difficult.



I am also sight impaired and colourblind; so would struggle with some of those jobs.